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AvgVeg

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Is there any other route for Emma?
The Walkthrough has Doug blackmailing and raping her...
Also, how is Natasha's route if the MC doesn't choose the evil route?
 

Stil996

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Is there any other route for Emma?
The Walkthrough has Doug blackmailing and raping her...
Also, how is Natasha's route if the MC doesn't choose the evil route?
Dude!!! Read the OP! there are no "nice" routes yet, the closest we have are a couple of teasing scenes that hint at what the "nice" routes will be like, but ultimately choosing "nice" options just means closing of interactions with those characters.
 
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AvgVeg

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I can spy on Cecilia through spycam while she showers. However, she is not there when I check at home.
bug?
 

Mr Nadie

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I can spy on Cecilia through spycam while she showers. However, she is not there when I check at home.
bug?
No, it's not a bug... It's a plot hole. AFAIK Horizontical has not developed anything to see her at home other than the cameras.
 

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Im curious, when all is said and done, will the nice route have as much content as the bad route? 50%? 25%?
 

Stil996

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Im curious, when all is said and done, will the nice route have as much content as the bad route? 50%? 25%?
I hope not :p... though I admit I'm curious how "nice" would manifest in this environment... Technically I think "nice" would be reporting the whole mess to the appropriate authorities leaving the MC with nothing but blueballs as all the women are taken to safe recovery areas since any sex with any of them would be considered under the influence of a roofie (aka "not nice")
 

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I hope not :p... though I admit I'm curious how "nice" would manifest in this environment... Technically I think "nice" would be reporting the whole mess to the appropriate authorities leaving the MC with nothing but blueballs as all the women are taken to safe recovery areas since any sex with any of them would be considered under the influence of a roofie (aka "not nice")
Your not giving this Dev much creddit or faith in his writing ability if thats what you think it would be like.
Because we all know it would be impossible for a MC to fuck every woman that works for him even married ones in a gamel
Without him having to be a masive prick I mean who's ever heard of that happening in a game before?.

That said it's starting to look more like a case of if the Dev bother's to do a complete nice route than when.

P.S. Stil996 Facepalmed me just because I called you out on your silly comment lol you mupet.
Welcome to my Ignored list.
 
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topguu

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trying to find collectibles stuck i'm missing 3,5,10,14,15,16,22 any help would be appreciated
 

Stil996

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Your not giving this Dev much creddit or faith in his writing ability if thats what you think it would be like.
Because we all know it would be impossible for a MC to fuck every woman that works for him even married ones in a gamel
Without him having to be a masive prick I mean who's ever heard of that happening in a game before?.

That said it's starting to look more like a case of if the Dev bother's to do a complete nice route than when.

P.S. Stil996 Facepalmed me just because I called you out on your silly comment lol you mupet.
Welcome to my Ignored list.
I generally try to avoid continuing conversations with idiots, but since I'm on his ignored list... I facepalmed his post for
  1. failing to properly read the post he responded to
    and
  2. for being yet another whiner complaining about a game failing to provide him with instant gratification... This game it will take however long it takes to complete, whining about it accomplishes nothing.
 

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FusiFranse

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I hope not :p... though I admit I'm curious how "nice" would manifest in this environment... Technically I think "nice" would be reporting the whole mess to the appropriate authorities leaving the MC with nothing but blueballs as all the women are taken to safe recovery areas since any sex with any of them would be considered under the influence of a roofie (aka "not nice")
In my opinion, there is a small blurred line which may or may not isn't crossed (haven't read through last releases tbh).

Best example is Melissa. You could ask yourself if you should do the last step or not but this decision doesn't change her further arc, only her facial expression (which could be changed again but only if player is eager to..)
Another is Doug. It doesn't change a thing if you are friends or rival with him.

Audrey already has a soft spot for his kink and those are blurred lines. It's only the facial expressions of MC to state a somehow confrontational approach of conversation. If Horizontical would erase those understatements of the conversational approach player is going for the moment, it would be a whole other game.
Dev of New Coral City tried those expressions but would loose fans when changing to those, Horizontical implemented.
Horizontical made both. On screen renders and conversation box facial reactions.

As 'older' players of this game, we both know those convo box pictures:
1701814804784.png = neutral
and so forth
+ conversational partners expression
1701815102644.png 1701815537868.png and so forth = pissed but further on talkable to

I've read through many posts and it seems, a lot of players only see those facial expressions Horizontical implemented to state the course of the conversation and couldn't differ either between an MC's story and a story they want to play for themselves (like roleplay) OR they didn't like those "exploited" facial reactions on decisions they thought would be harmless but leading to laid content.
Some even stated they don't like to get a look like that in the conversational box.
"Harmless" is another thing in most of the games on F95zone. e.g. stealing money in other people apartment, breaking into homes to look at sleeping girls or on those occasions hiding behind something to get a look on girls, buying videocams and installing them in other ppl home, buying binoculars to see their neighbours naked, .... stalking, tracking, observing, breaking other peoples privacy without consequences.... Well, that's not harmless at all but most didn't care when body fluids are going.

For me, best example of an 'good'/'nice' ending was Mayor Mayor Mayor. He stopped threatening Natasha like he did. The exception is when player decides to but only then. Otherwise her working area at his place got better for her. If there wasn't a gas leak making woman give in, she may could raise above his head.

Point is,, we could go through all those girls and each of us has another opinion about the point of those blurred lines where it ends to be a ''nice' thing but if those facial expressions wouldn't be there and MC would be shown with his "neutral" face the whole game long, those lines would change because some wouldn't even recognize the course of the conversation ongoing on screen.
 
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in my opinion best and shortest walkthrough is (which is art in itself the whole 10+hours long and exceptional for Horizontical's work):
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In my opinion, there is a small blurred line which may or may not isn't crossed (haven't read through last releases tbh).

Best example is Melissa. You could ask yourself if you should do the last step or not but this decision doesn't change her further arc, only her facial expression (which could be changed again but only if player is eager to..)
Another is Doug. It doesn't change a thing if you are friends or rival with him.

Audrey already has a soft spot for his kink and those are blurred lines. It's only the facial expressions of MC to state a somehow confrontational approach of conversation. If Horizontical would erase those understatements of the conversational approach player is going for the moment, it would be a whole other game.
Dev of New Coral City tried those expressions but would loose fans when changing to those, Horizontical implemented.
Horizontical made both. On screen renders and conversation box facial reactions.

As 'older' players of this game, we both know those convo box pictures:
View attachment 3146488 = neutral
and so forth
+ conversational partners expression
View attachment 3146498 View attachment 3146511 and so forth = pissed but further on talkable to

I've read through many posts and it seems, a lot of players only see those facial expressions Horizontical implemented to state the course of the conversation and couldn't differ either between an MC's story and a story they want to play for themselves (like roleplay) OR they didn't like those "exploited" facial reactions on decisions they thought would be harmless but leading to laid content.
Some even stated they don't like to get a look like that in the conversational box.
"Harmless" is another thing in most of the games on F95zone. e.g. stealing money in other people apartment, breaking into homes to look at sleeping girls or on those occasions hiding behind something to get a look on girls, buying videocams and installing them in other ppl home, buying binoculars to see their neighbours naked, .... stalking, tracking, observing, breaking other peoples privacy without consequences.... Well, that's not harmless at all but most didn't care when body fluids are going.

For me, best example of an 'good'/'nice' ending was Mayor Mayor Mayor. He stopped threatening Natasha like he did. The exception is when player decides to but only then. Otherwise her working area at his place got better for her. If there wasn't a gas leak making woman give in, she may could raise above his head.

Point is,, we could go through all those girls and each of us has another opinion about the point of those blurred lines where it ends to be a ''nice' thing but if those facial expressions wouldn't be there and MC would be shown with his "neutral" face the whole game long, those lines would change because some wouldn't even recognize the course of the conversation ongoing on screen.
I think maybe something got lost in translation. I have no idea why you are talking about facial expressions.
My point was the moment you know someones ability to consent is compromised, you can't have sex with them without it being rape.
It makes any "good" route problematic unless you have a way to neutralise the condition. Of course there are a number of "less evil" ways a story can unfold within the rules of "porn logic"... Like I said it's all going to be a surprise as far as I'm concerned.... though I'm not in a hurry to discover it... I'm just happy to find a game were the MC isn't constantly pandering.
 
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