VN Ren'Py The Roommate [v0.11.04] [togs]

[Kukipett]

No the dev has no concept of how multi-millionaires have their money managed. His credit cards would be managed by the bank. He'd never see a bill, and his debit card would allow him to pull 5 figures if the ATM was full, as would any of his credit cards. He could walk into any major hotel, hand his card to the clerk, and say "I need to pull $5000". The clerk would run the card and say "My manager will be here shortly with your money sir. Can I help you with anything else while you wait?"

And yes, I've watched that happen in real life.

Further the CEO of that company would have a minimum compensation of $2-3 million, or $100,000 to $150,000 per week. Plus performance bonuses and stock incentives. Not to mention he pulled $10 million out and bought the company stock at its low following his news conference, and the stock recovered in two days. Call it 5% maybe as much as 6-7%. So a quick $500,000 - $700,000 in two days. He hasn't sold so he hasn't realized the profit, but it's still there.

Bad writing on the part of the dev. Very bad. But very few of us have any real insight into the financial lives of the people with a 7+ figure income and an 8+ figure portfolio. My unsolicited advice to the dev is to simply drop the MC's finances from the game. You've put them out of reach. Live with it.

Exactly, i had already said something like this in a previous post.

But it's not my main concern about this game, it's the fact that this update was a boring company management course made by someone who thinks it's the most important thing to do in that kind of game.
And more it was a crazy festival of bugs, i guess i need to restart as it seems that many variables have been modified or added.

 

[UncleFredo]

Exactly, i had already said something like this in a previous post.

But it's not my main concern about this game, it's the fact that this update was a boring company management course made by someone who thinks it's the most important thing to do in that kind of game.
And more it was a crazy festival of bugs, i guess i need to restart as it seems that many variables have been modified or added.

Yeah my last save was before you were required (nice bit of abuse dev) to assert your relationship tendencies. So none of them worked and I was forced to play from scratch. That said the dev created a substantial amount of new background and foundation, but in the end, despite all that effort, the game, with regard to the main LIs, progressed not one frame.

Fine. As I've said in many threads, I understand I'm playing a game in development and I still like the game and look forward to progress under the new framework. That said, if the next update fails to actually progress the relationships in the game, I'll sideline it until it's completed.

 

[mofonistik]

Started a new game and I'm enjoying it so far. Haven't gotten to the end of the new content yet. You fixed the Randy issue, as far as I'm concerned. I did get the bug where you tell Kari that you chose Aria even if you didn't. If there's a story reason for why we need to choose Aria, maybe make her a default choice and we're only allowed to pick the other?

(Edit) Okay, just finished. So far, so good. Realistic or not, the drama at the company is fairly intriguing to me. The situation with Kari is improved, and the interactions with Lois are a lot of fun. That twist with Mallory was definitely unexpected, but fun. A couple of the interns had mildly annoying personalities (seemed intentional) but I still had trouble choosing only two. Well, three counting the flight attendant.

Nice work. I like how things are going.

 

[linkinn]

Really liked the game, it's different on it's own way, good models, good renders, story i've seen a few games using the same premisse but this one is fairly well executed so far and has a few original ideas.

The only thing i can say that i didn't like is the relationship progression between MC and Kari, they barely talk most days so the ending of the current update feel a little weird, almost rushed, maybe it was meant to be this way as she is kinda shy and MC has alot on his plate, the progression with the blonde is way more "organic".

As a quick note, i hate NTR and i didn't see a problem with the Randy situation, it was always implied she never did anything with him so i never had a problem at any point (maybe because i didn't have to wait for updates). Unless the dev changed something other than the resolution of the "arc".

Keep it up man, looking forward for the next update.

 

[T-N]

someon having problems with the interviews??

ya, i can't get it to go any further. put in name/names and nothing. am i missing something?

got it

 

[togs-games]

My apologies, it seems I have some issues to sort out. As to having to start over with the new versions, I'm sorry, but I think it's inevitable at this stage of development.

The propriety of the dress on Day 1? Perhaps not a big deal for some, but there are plenty of places that wouldn't consider it acceptable. The point was it was an early chance for the player to be the nice guy or not.

I agree that there needs to be more time spent on building MCs relationship with Kari. All I can say is that I'm painting in broad strokes now, trying to establish a framework that will cover everything going forward, and that this is still very much a work in progress. This is my first game and I'm buggered if I'm going to apologize for making some mistakes along the way (although I actually did already).

As to the money situation, originally I had thought to have MC stay as a middle manager for longer, that changed simply because it would have been boring, so the finances certainly seem less significant now. My original intent was to have him stretched a bit thin, especially when the car payments came due.

However, I would point out (AGAIN) that he's only just been announced as the CEO towards the end of the game, he's certainly not been handed giant bags of gold just yet.

There's a bunch of things I want to add but simply haven't had time to do yet. The letter from the Uncle should have been read by now (it contains some backstory and an unlock code that will allow access to the files MC was trying to access, and more besides). MC also could have his head of security (or the PIs they alluded to) look into ASI Genetics and Greenfield Genetics, as well as tracking down Randy's other victim.

Dunno what else to say, except that I was thinking maybe to stop rounding the expenses to whole dollars, and include the cents, for extra realism...

Hmm... "Your minor expenses were $34.57 today"

Now that I'm feeling all warm and cosy, I'll get back to my sloppy programming, bad writing, and mediocre renders...

... and, of course, my ignorance of how the other half live!

Have a nice evening, I'm taking the rest of the night off.

 

[linkinn]

This is my first game and I'm buggered if I'm going to apologize for making some mistakes along the way (although I actually did already).

Believe me, you don't need to apologize to anyone here, you are doing an excelent job, especially this being your first game.

All i can say is, keep doing what you are doing because it's good and try to filter what is useful feedback and trash feedback.

 

[Sir Anal]

Quite a good game.

Although there are some weird things about the times of day (even at the end of the day, when you go to bed, sometimes you're still "morning", for example) and you get to talk to Aria (on day 25, I think) as if you know her, even though you don't meet her until the end (day 28).

But it all goes rather unnoticed. The story, the writing, the characters, it's all really good work.

Keep the good wok, dev!

 

[gregers]

Dunno what else to say, except that I was thinking maybe to stop rounding the expenses to whole dollars, and include the cents, for extra realism...

A lack of realism does not automatically equate to bad writing. Uncle Fester's Magic Tittyjuice™ isn't particularly realistic, nor is his automated panopticon, but they both add to the story. The fact that the game takes place in a rough approximation of a corporate workspace, with plenty of fudging of the details, is not a problem as long as it serves as a vehicle for an interesting story.

I guess I can sort of see where some of the above comments are coming from in that this release doesn't add a lot of progress to the MC's key relationships, but on the other hand that's completely understandable as it rejigs some behind-the-scenes stuff and fills in a lot of details about the setting and especially the company. There are only so many hours in a day, and few of us get to spend all of them writing smut.

Enjoy your evening off and don't take the comments too hard, would be my two cents on the matter.

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[Synful62]

Great game thus far,but i have to say,your a mean hearted s.o.b.,finally get to nail kari and i gotta wait till next update?mean,just mean,lol.
One thing i did catch,weekly pay,i got paid the first week,then none until week 4,whats up with that?true,dont really need money so far,just thought i'd bring that up.
Looking forward to the next installment!

 

[xtr3mx7]

@togs-games

In order to keep the naming consistency. In the first few lines, Kari is named as Carrie and then drop back to Kari all through the remaining game.

 

[224488]

Now that I'm feeling all warm and cosy, I'll get back to my sloppy programming, bad writing, and mediocre renders...

... and, of course, my ignorance of how the other half live!

Have a nice evening, I'm taking the rest of the night off.

The game is not boring to play. That's what matters.

If you want a piece of advice, or some feedback, make a game with as less boring and repetitive days as possible, without grind and with events and advances in the relationships of the characters every day, with an attractive MC able to seduce a woman (that thing of the MC perving Kate at the bathroom... I know is an easy way to show tits and butts, but... ), and interesting and diverse Lis, and players will "forgive" some bugs, and the renders not being the best in business, IMO.

 

[swmeek]

Something I would like to suggest for when you are doing the selection of women for the job interviews is pictures of them so it would be easier to remember who's who.

 

[BTLD]

Something I would like to suggest for when you are doing the selection of women for the job interviews is pictures of them so it would be easier to remember who's who.

what I did was I went back and started the interviews again and rated them in a notepad

 

[224488]

A lack of realism does not automatically equate to bad writing. Uncle Fester's Magic Tittyjuice™ isn't particularly realistic, nor is his automated panopticon, but they both add to the story.

Yes, you are right... but in this case, I would prefer realism. The "milking" thing could be just a fetish of the uncle that his widow ends up enjoying too, without need of "magic" medical technology. Women continue producing milk for a long time after giving birth if they continue pumping their breast, no need of the "magic tittyjuice" (maybe just some hormonal supplement).

About that thing of selling the milk, If the uncle wanted to make money with the mother´s milk of his wife and the orphan girls of the foundation, he could have started a more realistic business: a nursemaid agency for rich people. Or a escort agency for people with the fetish of lactation, if you prefer the kinky approach. Sometimes, devs make things needlessly far fetched.

 

[BTLD]

Yes, you are right... but in this case, I would prefer realism. The "milking" thing could be just a fetish of the uncle that his widow ends up enjoying too, without need of "magic" medical technology. Women continue producing milk for a long time after giving birth if they continue pumping their breast, no need of the "magic tittyjuice" (maybe just some hormonal supplement) and that thing of selling the milk.

If the uncle wanted to make money with the mother´s milk of his wife and the orphan girls of the foundation, he could have started a more realistic business: a nursemaid agency for rich people. Or a escort agency for people with the fetish of lactation, if you prefer the kinky approach. Sometimes, devs make things needlessly far fetched.

or maybe you're looking at this the wrong way
maybe that was done to start portraying the uncle as a ... piece of shit

 

[224488]

or maybe you're looking at this the wrong way
maybe that was done to start portraying the uncle as a ... piece of shit

If the uncle forces his wife to that fetish of lactation to the amusement of him and his mates (even if, at the end, she enjoys it too), and force the orphan girls to work as nursemaids or escorts, he would be portrayed as a piece of shit all right.

 

[BTLD]

If the uncle forces his wife to that fetish of lactation to the amusement of him and his mates (even if, at the end, she enjoys it too), and force the orphan girls to work as nursemaids or escorts, he would be portrayed as a piece of shit all right.

getting her hooked on that "treatment" from my point of view is forced..since she doesn't have the option to quit it..she needs to keep taking it.
and there were mentions of him doing that shit with his mates...so ..yea he is a piece of shit...now comes the question ...how big of a piece of shit was he?
don't know about the orphan girls , that subject is not yet delved in to too much so maybe?maybe not?we'll see

 

[Vrijgeest]

I landed during the choosing of candidates in the routine "loop3" from which there is no escape. I had to reload and make sure I did not choose "making separate lists".

 

[224488]

getting her hooked on that "treatment" from my point of view is forced..since she doesn't have the option to quit it..she needs to keep taking it.

Yes, but there is no need to invent that "treatment" for the story. The wife was a young stripper and single mother, and the uncle was the powerful owner of a big company. He could have plausibly forced his wife to almost any sexual fetish without the need of the "magic" serum, or any other of the similar "tricks" that usually devs use to force female characters (or male) to do sexual things against their will, like mind control, hypnotism, implausible new technologies, magic, superpowers, etc. Not all games with that kind of "tricks" are bad per se, but I think that it´s better to maintain the plot and scenes of games as plausible as posible.