Ren'Py Abandoned The Things We Do For Love [Ep. 1-2] [DSeductionGames]

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DarthSeduction

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i know this is incredibly stupid to point out on a porn game but a man raping another man is not gay content and shouldn't have a gay tag attached to the game if however the tag is there because there is gonna be consensual guy on guy content in the game then just ignore my comment
I get what you were trying to say here, but by that logic I also shouldn't include a rape tag, because it's not there for fetish content. Both tags are there to inform people that they'll be engaging with the concepts, even if not intended sexually. As for the rest, Alex is clearly coded as at least bisexual. There will be explicitly gay content as an option going forward.
 

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I absolutely love this game: it's brutal and atrocious and yet so sweet... @DarthSeduction, you've been very brave in proposing such a game (such a well-realised game, so far) with such a theme, and for the sensibility you show in doing this you deserve all my respect and my support (which I will express by becoming a patron of yours, probably).

It would have been easy to write a game like this from a perverted voyeur perspective... it is not easy to write it from the point of view of the victim. For this effort, I thank you.
 

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Here's my crunched version.

Image/audio/video quality is reduced to make shit smaller. This is not a perfect process and sometimes can break a game. You've been warned so no bitching.

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DarthSeduction

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Did you really just
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Applause. Well done.

Also, was there symbolism in the
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that I missed?
First off,
View attachment xpjQyJk.mp4

Second, that second cough is a relic from a version of the script before I sent it over to Spawn for art that I just forgot to remove. Initially my art requests had called for him to be gagged, and for the scene where he gets ungagged to come after he's approaced with Alexis in Nick's arms. So that's where the cough was supposed to be from. I'll remove it from my script for future ones. Not worth a whole re-release though
 

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Ooof, actually, I just opened the patch file our mysterious benefactor sent... and it also has a much rougher set of transitions than the patron version. I wonder why he did that. *whistling non-descriptly*
 

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w/r/t to the coughs, I meant this:
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Also, w/r/t to the other thing I mentioned: I clicked on it half expecting you to show an even more intense version of the scene.
 

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w/r/t to the coughs, I meant this:
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Yeah, that's the one I was talking about. Originally, the script had him gagged instead of taped, and so when removing the gag he coughed, I just forgot to get rid of it when it changed. I think the new patched version might not have Alex's cough.
 

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Yeah, that's the one I was talking about. Originally, the script had him gagged instead of taped, and so when removing the gag he coughed, I just forgot to get rid of it when it changed. I think the new patched version might not have Alex's cough.
Right, I get that. It's that Alexis coughs (for no obvious reason) and then, a few seconds later, Alexander does, which I thought was supposed to be some sort of connected-mind twin thing that would show up again later...perhaps in a less twisted context.
 

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Right, I get that. It's that Alexis coughs (for no obvious reason) and then, a few seconds later, Alexander does, which I thought was supposed to be some sort of connected-mind twin thing that would show up again later...perhaps in a less twisted context.
Other than having been choked for the last while?
 

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Eh I tried to watch it, but since it's outside the realm of the story and kinda breaks the characters I just quit. Not to mention I don't particularly like the idea of making either of the twins suffer more than they have, even if it is a fantasy.
 

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I get what you were trying to say here, but by that logic I also shouldn't include a rape tag, because it's not there for fetish content. Both tags are there to inform people that they'll be engaging with the concepts, even if not intended sexually. As for the rest, Alex is clearly coded as at least bisexual. There will be explicitly gay content as an option going forward.
i wasn't referring to it as a fetish tag i was refering to it as a content tag and that if it was a fetish tag then i didnt care but if it was refering to the rape scene as gay content then i was gonna be a little annoyed however its not its refering to planned content so i dont care
 

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Im sick of all the cnts that keep on making games having gay tag while thinking gays are disgusting. They put one brief gay scence just so that they can put the tag gay to get more traffic. Disgusting. Imagine if people put female domination tag and female protagonist tag and there is only one brief scene where you control the only female character in the game to decide if she will whip someone or not and then the scene end with just the word whack on the screen. If you want to be homophobic the least you could do is not pretend you want them in your life.
 

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Im sick of all the cnts that keep on making games having gay tag while thinking gays are disgusting. They put one brief gay scence just so that they can put the tag gay to get more traffic. Disgusting. Imagine if people put female domination tag and female protagonist tag and there is only one brief scene where you control the only female character in the game to decide if she will whip someone or not and then the scene end with just the word whack on the screen. If you want to be homophobic the least you could do is not pretend you want them in your life.
Dude/ette, calm please. If you had read the thread instead of just responding, you'd know that there is planned Gay content, the game is not tagged that way just for the opening scene. The DEV always planned to write this with the Male MC being Bi
 

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Im sick of all the cnts that keep on making games having gay tag while thinking gays are disgusting. They put one brief gay scence just so that they can put the tag gay to get more traffic. Disgusting. Imagine if people put female domination tag and female protagonist tag and there is only one brief scene where you control the only female character in the game to decide if she will whip someone or not and then the scene end with just the word whack on the screen. If you want to be homophobic the least you could do is not pretend you want them in your life.
Yeah, I'm pansexual, the game is only just starting, maybe tone down your shit and ask a few questions before making accusations about my, my beliefs, or my game. Alex is going to have opportunities for a positive homosexual relationship later in the game. The gay tag was used because regardless of the beliefs of people like myself and I assume, based on your rant, you, the rape scene warrants it.

i wasn't referring to it as a fetish tag i was refering to it as a content tag and that if it was a fetish tag then i didnt care but if it was refering to the rape scene as gay content then i was gonna be a little annoyed however its not its refering to planned content so i dont care
I'm fucking annoyed at this persecution complex. In a science class where there will be dissections, they inform you ahead of time and provide alternative lessons for those who won't, for whatever reason, be willing or able to participate. The tags on this game serve the same purpose. Yes, the gay tag is there because of the rape scene. No, I don't consider it gay fetish content, but it is a man placing his penis in the mouth of another man, that means I, fulfilling my obligation to be honest about the game's content, have to state that this game has gay content.

I am in no way stating, by doing so, that being raped makes you gay. In fact, go through this thread, I've made far more enemies fighting against people making that assumption from the right. If you have a problem with me being honest about the content of my game so that we don't have more problems than necessary, don't play it.
 

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Yeah, I'm pansexual, the game is only just starting, maybe tone down your shit and ask a few questions before making accusations about my, my beliefs, or my game. Alex is going to have opportunities for a positive homosexual relationship later in the game. The gay tag was used because regardless of the beliefs of people like myself and I assume, based on your rant, you, the rape scene warrants it.



I'm fucking annoyed at this persecution complex. In a science class where there will be dissections, they inform you ahead of time and provide alternative lessons for those who won't, for whatever reason, be willing or able to participate. The tags on this game serve the same purpose. Yes, the gay tag is there because of the rape scene. No, I don't consider it gay fetish content, but it is a man placing his penis in the mouth of another man, that means I, fulfilling my obligation to be honest about the game's content, have to state that this game has gay content.

I am in no way stating, by doing so, that being raped makes you gay. In fact, go through this thread, I've made far more enemies fighting against people making that assumption from the right. If you have a problem with me being honest about the content of my game so that we don't have more problems than necessary, don't play it.
Darth, you do you. I don't like NTR, but I like your game (so far);) Just don't respond to the hate/lack of understanding. If they aren't willing to read what you have written on these topics, are they really worth you getting worked up?

And for you NTR fans, you'll like the game too, I'll just avoid that content while you enjoy it to the fullest. again, you do you.
 

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Other than having been choked for the last while?
Ah, I see what you were going for. To be honest, the reason I didn't connect the two is that (to me) it never looked like he was choking her, just reminding her that he could. But at one point it looks like his knuckles are just sort of sitting there at the base of her neck, and a little later he's got a thumb and a finger resting against two of the usual pressure points, but they really do just look like they're just resting there instead of threatening her larynx or her carotid artery. Nor did her facial expressions really give it away to me either, though that might be because she was upside down. She actually looked to be experiencing more stress as he was pulling her head back in the previous scene. In any case — and this is getting deep into the nitpicking, I admit — even if his fingers were digging in, that's the sort of choking no one should be trying in the first place. Not that it'll stop anyone, of course.
 
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