VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Two Sides of Love [v0.3.1] [Night Games]

[Simulacrum29]

The game already has the "corruption" tag...


That's not what happened.

1/ the chains were very loose! If he REALLY wanted to, I don't see how he couldn't prevent her from touching him. Plus his legs were free. If you feel like you're really getting "raped", you just kick if your legs are free.

2/ It's different in a GAME where we can see the thoughts of the MC. And the MC is clearly thinking that he is "loving every second of it".

So... Yes, maybe this game needs some "slight femdom" tag, but "rape"? Cmon....

1/
victim-blaming at its finest. Why did you not struggle more against your attacker? This is a sentence every rape victim loves to hear right next to why did you participate in that game if you know it could get out of hand. You have no idea how tight or how loose the chains were.

2/Some drug addicts take drugs to feel good but at the same time, they know that they shouldn't do it. A good feeling alone is not synonymous with the right decision, and the MC in this Scene knows that and is struggling against it despite the pleasure he receives from the act.

The Scene could be great if it happened way down the line when they have a better relationship. As it happened it is way too early and there is zero trust between the two.

MC and his daughter have seen nothing of each other for at least 2years.
After his ex-wife divorced him with the claim that he tried to fuck his daughters and Mc isn't a nobody Businessman, he is a fucking pro boxer with fights on the national TV with enough drama to make at least a plib on the international news scene. That shit would be, probably in every Newspaper statewide.

They have seen each other after all that time for not more than, what could it realistically been 2hours tops and his daughter starts by screaming in a public store about how he fucked her, then the chain bullshit, it is a fucking wonder nobody has called the cops at this point in the story and MC is not behind bars. All that is followed up by the blackmail against him. The daughter was built up so right now she's not only holding every trump card, she has the whole fucking deck. That is something the Author got right, if anything spills, nobody would believe the MC a single fucking word. The only thing he can do right now is to leave the country or keep playing her game.
Her inner monologue paints her as extremely controlling and dominant and at no point does she shows any regard for the mc and his situation as long as she gets what she wants. She is abusing him with her control and the position of power she has because MC doesn't want to hurt her.

She is written in a way that makes her unappealing she is doing whatever she wants not considering the MC's feelings or the feelings of anyone else for that matter. Together with her personality, there is no way in hell they will form any kind of relationship not rooted in abuse. There is absolutely nothing for me as the player to trust her, nothing. She is saying what she has to say to get what she wants and she's doing everything to get what she wants. She even tells the MC that she has no qualms to throw him under the Bus when it pleases her. Why should MC trust her to not harm him? She told him she will lie when it suits her! When someone shows you who they are believe them.

Even when she changes everything that happened far too fast it's just not believable.

If MC and the wife together decided to divorce and alienate the MC because he had feelings/lust for his daughters he could not control, so they both decided to sacrifice the marriage to protect their daughters. The Mother would be a better character and the hook up with your daughter in less than 6 hours would fit in the story but right now, It doesn't fit.

 

[zh]

You have no idea how tight or how loose the chains were.

Those chains were loose enough. How do I know? Just look at the render... Chains are not tight, legs are free. The dude just needed to put his legs in opposition and the scene would have been over.

victim-blaming at its finest. Why did you not struggle more against your attacker? This is a sentence every rape victim loves to hear right next to why did you participate in that game if you know it could get out of hand.

If a girl make a move towards your dick and you don't do ANYTHING even if you could, it's still rape? At this point, I don't even know if you're trolling or what...
I saw this scene as a roleplaying game. The MC played the "victim" even tho he clearly wasn't in this scene and the girl played the "woman in command". That's all there was to it.

What else do you want? A trigger warning every time a character makes a "surprise" move?... oh boy...

 

[Flubberbutt]

This game is excellent for people with an unfortunate FD kink who only really wants something to jack off to. Exceptionally well done models and animations. The developments between the characters manages to be quite decent despite the very hurried pace, which improves the fapability tremendously.

Can't wait to see what more is in store. This has seriously good potential.

 

[MrRick]

Y'all got any of them Android updates?

 

[Simulacrum29]

If a girl make a move towards your dick and you don't do ANYTHING even if you could, it's still rape? At this point, I don't even know if you're trolling or what...

Yes, it is, consent is no maybe or silents, consent is a yes.
Hones question, if you had a son and he told you he was at a party rejected a girl, got shitfaced drunk and she took the opportunity to take him for a ride. Would you ask him if he's trolling?

As the story is told MC has nothing he can do if he doesn't want a one-way trip to the next prison, he is branded as a childfucker in the public opinion how would it end if someone would see that scene? Not even his children, who lived with him for more than a decade without anything ever happening, believe him. So why would some rando from the street?

 

[punisher2099]

Hones question, if you had a son and he told you he was at a party rejected a girl, got shitfaced drunk and she took the opportunity to take him for a ride. Would you ask him if he's trolling?

As the story is told MC has nothing he can do if he doesn't want a one-way trip to the next prison, he is branded as a childfucker in the public opinion how would it end if someone would see that scene? Not even his children who lived with him for more than a decade, without anything ever happening, believe him so why would some rando from the street?

If you have a problem with such a clearly fictional story than maybe you should just move on.

 

[zh]

Yes, it is, consent is no maybe or silents, consent is a yes.
Hones question, if you had a son and he told you he was at a party rejected a girl, got shitfaced drunk and she took the opportunity to take him for a ride. Would you ask him if he's trolling?

Except ... nobody is drunk in this game... That's not the same situation at all.

As the story is told MC has nothing he can do if he doesn't want a one-way trip to the next prison, he is branded as a childfucker in the public opinion how would it end if someone would see that scene? Not even his children, who lived with him for more than a decade without anything ever happening, believe him. So why would some rando from the street?

If MC screamed while being chained, someone would have popped up instantly. She can't make those chains disappear instantly, right? What happened would have been obvious, and the one in prison would have been the girl.

 

[Simulacrum29]

If you have a problem with such a clearly fictional story than maybe you should just move on.

you are absolutely right, I shouldn't get this invested in that story.

Wish the dev all the best, the game looks gorgeous, the story is not my cup of tea.

 

[L3z1l3]

Very hot game with some super hot content despite how early stage it is.
The story is not very original, though I don't know how that confusing cult stuff will turn out.

My only problem with the game at the current stage is Vanessa. I don't like her looks or personality at all, but she is unavoidable and there was a lot of lengthy content with her and Anna which I wasn't interested in at all but had to click through it.
I hope she will be less important character later on than others who have been introduced.

 

[zh]

Very hot game with some super hot content despite how early stage it is.
The story is not very original, though I don't know how that confusing cult stuff will turn out.

My only problem with the game at the current stage is Vanessa. I don't like her looks or personality at all, but she is unavoidable and there was a lot of lengthy content with her and Anna which I wasn't interested in at all but had to click through it.
I hope she will be less important character later on than others who have been introduced.

Yup, I also find Vanessa's personality as well as her look a bit weird. Maybe it's too early to judge her... Let's hope her character will get better

 

[Ifartedtoolong]

I saw nothing wrong with Vanessa and thought she was cute/hot looking. From what you can see you can tell there is going to be content with Vanessa/Anna Vanessa/Julissa and in the next update Vanessa/horse cock dude as you see Vanessa flirting with Julissa doing things with Anna and the next update she'll most likely be doing things with the horse cock dude. If there is anything that bores me it's horse cock scenes so BJ/hand jobs get a auto CRTLing past.

 

[Benutzername]

What a fucking great game. Please, more of this...

 

[Uncle - 1]

Hello and when the next update will be released .

 

[Darth Sidious]

Bhahaha! Man I love this game The memes are murder and Julissa is a juicy little treasure, seems like halfwork is already done when it comes to corrupting the girls, all I have to do is wave around my lightsaber

Now I'll go have a moment silence for our resident black cat, who will no doubt be having diarrhea for the next few days after consuming that much lactose.

 

[sidsan]

any femdom in this game and character name, please? NightGamesX

 

[Almighty]

Yeah this game is king of teasing this year. I can't wait for that teasing to turn into accidental sex. The teasing in this game is more of a turn on than bullshit. lol

 

[RhazzesDarkk]

Some things i liked and some i didn't liked: Based on v0.2.1

I won't rate this VN right now. My rating for the VN as it is right now would
lower the overall rating and i don't want that. Its too early to say how things
will turn out. I'll put my criticism here in hope the Dev will maybe read it.

I want to adress some negativ things others said:

1) "Situations, behavier and/or dialogue is unrealistic"
I think its obvious (atleast in my opinon) that this VN is about humor and
doesn't want to be taken too seriously.

2) "Backstabing Wife"
I think the funny "Incest Cult" scene with the Wife (i think its the Wife) made it
clear, the reason for seperating him from his daughters was to avoid doing what
she was told to do. The "thing" others are now trying to do, because she "failed".
I could be wrong though, who knows.

What i liked:

1) Render are looking nice.
2) Different unique looking females.
3) Lewd bodyparts are unique and not the standart ones that are mostly used.
4) Lewd scenes are nice and creative, though a bit to much Bi stuff.
5) The Humor (when the most innocent looking girl showed up and started
talking about her "fat pussy" and "blueballing the mc could kill him" i was
laughing my as off)

Now to the in my opinion "bad" stuff:

1) Pushover MC: I get he has to be somewhat of a pushover (he wants to fix the fix
the relationship with his daughters) but its way too much.
Even in situation where you take the dominant+ answer it feels like he is the sub.
The daughter who could be sub has been told by her friend just to PRETEND being sub,
to manipulate him. So in the end, even she would be dominant/manipulativ in every
situation whit him in the future from now on.
But, and THIS is the MAIN reason i don't rate this VN right now. It feels the dev wants
to push him at some point to be the dominant part.
The reasons i think that, are (responses of the dev here) and (dialogues of Julissa).
But he can't be dominant in some situation and sub in others. I dont think players would
like that. People who like to be dominant dont like to be dominated. Maybe some.

2) Almost every Female (atleast for now) feels the same: While they look different
and unique, they all seem to have the same (with slight variations) personality.
I woul call it "standart Slutty/Bi harem personality" even though they are slightly above
"standart" in "crazyness".
While its fun to have a few Slutty/Bi characters in a harem, it gets a bit boring when every
Li seem to have somewhat the same personality. One of the fun parts of HaremVN's or VN's
in general is the diversity of characters, not only in looks but also in personality.
When every girl acts the same, it feels after a while like watching the same Li in every scene.

3) Manipulating/Behind his back Characters: It feels like every female is either trying to
or already is manipulating him or has something going on behind his back, or both.
It's anoying and frustating. If it would be just one of them, but this way its just to much and
adds to his "pushover" image. This is a mixed one and partially the reason i don't rate this VN right now.
Some of the manipulating and behind his back stuff is part of the story and hope they come clean whit him.
Atleast with some of it, so he isn't completly in the dark. But sadly the manipulating thats not part of the
"cult" story stays. But maybe then it doesn't feel as bad anymore, because it would be not as much.

What i hope for...:

1) More diversity in personality and behavier.
(I guess i have to accept every female Is Bi and already fucking around. Seems to be the new standart,
even though this VN takes it to a whole new level wich in this case isn't too bad because its a not so
serious and more humor like VN.)
2) Less pushover MC !!!, i sometimes just wanted to bitchslap the middle daughter.
3) Less manipulating/behind the back.
Even if they have good or atleast not bad intentions, it makes them somewhat less likeable.
4) Dominant or Sub routes.
For me i doesn't make sense to be dominant towards one and sub towards the other one.
But a option would be nice, because i'm not the only one who plays it and others might
like to be that way.

Overall, considering this is just a early version of the VN, i had a mostly good and fun time reading it.
It will be much less enjoyable if everthing stays the way it is.
But for now i'm curious where this is going and wish the Dev/Dev's success.

Totaly Offtopic dumb question:
Does someone know how to make the empty space at the beginning of a line of a post to be recognized?
So it would look like this (easier to read):
1) xxxxxxx
---xxxxxxx
instead of what it looks like now in my post
1) xxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxx
Sorry for the offtopic.

 

[Honnepon]

Are there any blowjobs in this game? I know it's got the oral sex tag, but that could mean cunnilingus too I guess.
Just asking before I download.

 

[Havik79]

There's an 'oral sex' tag, but does that refer to cunnilingus or blowjobs? (or both?)

you get our cock sucked if that is what you want to know.

 

[Honnepon]

you get our cock sucked if that is what you want to know.

I'm downloading.