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By "control freak" I'm intending to reference her apparent background leading into the game and how that may be consistent with what we've seen of her intentions/attitudes to date, actually:I don't see the Mum as being a control freak, I see her as being someone who believes in exclusivity; that now they've had sex it means that they're a couple, so the Mum believes that her son should break up with Haley because he's now in a relationship with her. To me, that's not controlling but simply a black and white view of what sex means, that she equates sex with love and that that love means you're now in a committed relationship. Yes, some people in some cases can take this view to extremes and become total psycho bitches, but I don't think the Mum is like this and is looking at it in the purest sense; that he's done this with her because he wants to be in a serious relationship with her and that it's not fair to Haley to continue that relationship.
While this initially sounded like a family friend taking on an unexpected burden out of extreme consideration, looking back it seems these otherwise innocent characterizations (from the MC's perspective) imply Karen has long wanted the MC to stay with her. The official patched version removes much of this prologue context, which I feel is unfortunate."I live in a lovely house with a lady named Karen, she has always been a friend of the family as far back as I can remember."
"When my parents both died in a tragic accident, she and her husband offered to foster me so I didn't have to go to an orphanage."
"Over the years I’ve had many offers for adoption, but I've been content here, Karen is strict but fair, I've always turned them down."
"Karen has never minded, her husband passed away so I’ve been good company for her, though she has never tried to adopt me herself. I think she feels it would be as if she was trying to replace my parents."
"Now though, I’ve reached the age of majority. No one is responsible for me and I'm free to make my own choices."
"Karen says I'm welcome to to live here for as long as I like though, which is great of her, but I’ll be leaving for college soon anyway."
"Got that? Okay, because this prologue is all about her sister and when she came to visit us, so lets begin."
I look at that first line as being a product of her realising how much she missed her son when he went away to college. It's possible she means it in the literal sense but also possible she means it in the emotional sense, as in she wants him to be faithful to her. But even if she does mean it in the literal sense, I think she's just so deliriously happy to have him back with her that she's forgotten for a moment about him going back to college.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
It's not planned, it's a mistake. When the mom brought him to the store, in the patched version she corrects Michelle when she assumed that the MC was a love interest by directly stating that he was her son. (Michelle then joked that if she could maybe have a shot at him.)You could argue that sylistically her "Karen" statement could be changed to "your mother" or similar, but I think it was intentionally kept as you saw it and fits appropriately with the context.
As I pointed out, Michelle has never called Karen anything but her name. So, your argument seems stylistic and is certainly valid to request. I could make that change and update my patch quickly, but am not sure who to petitition for the post-1 linked patch.It's not planned, it's a mistake. When the mom brought him to the store, in the patched version she corrects Michelle when she assumed that the MC was a love interest by directly stating that he was her son. (Michelle then joked that if she could maybe have a shot at him.)
Now with patched 0.8, she says, working on the knowledge that Karen and the MC are mother and son and that he's in the store with his GF, that she's surprised at that because she was sure the mother and son had a thing going on?? 'Oh, I'm surprised you have a GF because I was sure you were going out with your mom'? Who tells their friend's son that?
That seemed more like a mistake to me. The line,"Oh, I could have swore there was something going on between you and Karen", will be something that's meant for the non-incest version but was accidentally left in by the patcher, either because they didn't notice it or simpy didn't think to write an alternate line for the incest version.It's not planned, it's a mistake. When the mom brought him to the store, in the patched version she corrects Michelle when she assumed that the MC was a love interest by directly stating that he was her son. (Michelle then joked that if she could maybe have a shot at him.)
Now with patched 0.8, she says, working on the knowledge that Karen and the MC are mother and son and that he's in the store with his GF, that she's surprised at that because she was sure the mother and son had a thing going on?? 'Oh, I'm surprised you have a GF because I was sure you were going out with your mom'? Who tells their friend's son that?
I don't know - to me, it seemed more of a sexual thing than the commitment for a real relationship. I don't know what's going on in Karen's head but the MC never showed any sort of commitment (or indication of it for that matter) to Karen. And Karen didn't even ask him/try to persuade him to enter a relationship before they had sex. If anything, she's just voicing her side of things by those demands. And I think if I were in a similar position it would seem extremely selfish of me to forthright make such a demand of someone I truly care for. Karen didn't even care to ask the MC where he was with Haley in terms of relationship. It's not as if their relationship was already dwindling, and it was just a matter of putting an end to it. And also, what did that poor girl Haley do to deserve it?As for the second lin, well, that just goes back to my earlier post about her viewing this sexual encounter as them entering into a committed relationship with one another and so the natural course of action would be to end the previous relationship.
Yeah, as mentioned above, I offered a patch for v0.8 and didn't see a problem with that line (for all the reasons already outlined) and apparently the "official" patcher didn't either.That seemed more like a mistake to me. The line,"Oh, I could have swore there was something going on between you and Karen", will be something that's meant for the non-incest version but was accidentally left in by the patcher, either because they didn't notice it or simpy didn't think to write an alternate line for the incest version.
Either way, it's minor issue and happens quite often with these patches since these folks are just good samaritans using their free time to restore these game to their proper, pre-Patreon rule changes glory, so mistakes are bound to happen every once in a while.
I understand it like this:Karen is not having sex w him just for sex, but because she loves him, hence wants relationship w him and she thinks mc feeling same way(She said it herself about him filling her need/love for a man). For me game has been leaning toward Karen/mc romance for a while, afterall she is the only one w whom mc has all the romantic moments. But still its porn game, and you cant actually expect mc being faithful to one woman, only in the end maybe.I don't know - to me, it seemed more of a sexual thing than the commitment for a real relationship. I don't know what's going on in Karen's head but the MC never showed any sort of commitment (or indication of it for that matter) to Karen. And Karen didn't even ask him/try to persuade him to enter a relationship before they had sex. If anything, she's just voicing her side of things by those demands. And I think if I were in a similar position it would seem extremely selfish of me to forthright make such a demand of someone I truly care for. Karen didn't even care to ask the MC where he was with Haley in terms of relationship. It's not as if their relationship was already dwindling, and it was just a matter of putting an end to it. And also, what did that poor girl Haley do to deserve it?
It would make more sense, though, if she said those words without thinking them through, just as an effect of "post-coital glow".
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It doesn't matter if the MC showed signs of wanting a commitment or not because it's all about the interpretation of what sex means to different people. From my point of view, Karen seems to see sex as a sign of love, that when two people do it with one another they're doing it for love and therefore are committing themselves to each other. As such, she perceives that the MC wanting to have sex with her means he's in love with her and thus wants to be in a committed relationship with her hence why she believes he should break up with Haley since the MC is now, in her mind, in a relationship with her.I don't know - to me, it seemed more of a sexual thing than the commitment for a real relationship. I don't know what's going on in Karen's head but the MC never showed any sort of commitment (or indication of it for that matter) to Karen. And Karen didn't even ask him/try to persuade him to enter a relationship before they had sex. If anything, she's just voicing her side of things by those demands. And I think if I were in a similar position it would seem extremely selfish of me to forthright make such a demand of someone I truly care for. Karen didn't even care to ask the MC where he was with Haley in terms of relationship. It's not as if their relationship was already dwindling, and it was just a matter of putting an end to it. And also, what did that poor girl Haley do to deserve it?
It would make more sense, though, if she said those words without thinking them through, just as an effect of "post-coital glow".
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If I had to choose between all the girls in this game... Rosa would come first Not only because she's a sub. She's kind of cute when she compares the MC with a donkeyyeah she wants to please her master and wants him to punish her
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@Eerie Entity @IdkanythingsmarterIf I had to choose between all the girls in this game... Rosa would come first Not only because she's a sub. She's kind of cute when she compares the MC with a donkey