VN Ren'Py Completed The Visit [v1.0] [Stiglet]

[fried]

I'm using the only patch you're supposed to use.

I guess you mean the one linked from the first post, then. There were two other patches made before that one was published, FYI:

https://f95zone.to/threads/the-visit-v0-8-stiglet.10361/post-1768094

But, I think they are generally consistent on this area of the dialogue ...

If you are referring to when the MC first approached Michelle in the store and she called him a "boy toy," she has consistently called Karen by her name in the game thus far.

In this chapter when he then mentioned buying something special for his "mom" (per the patch) she laughed in what could be considered a nervous manner at perhaps his formalism, possibly because she has been convinced since the beginning that they had plans for each other.

You could argue that sylistically her "Karen" statement could be changed to "your mother" or similar, but I think it was intentionally kept as you saw it and fits appropriately with the context.

 

[Only4You]

Spoiler: v0.08 Ending

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[Demonius]

i just have to put this out there, I actually like Haley and Rosa

 

[LP83]

Oh man. Best update so far!!!
Thx to the previous build-up!

Spoiler: GODDESS!!

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Spoiler: I love those boobs!

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Spoiler: The dress is amazing!

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Spoiler: Extremely Beautiful!!

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Spoiler: What a view!

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Spoiler: Enormous!

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Spoiler: What a show huh?!

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Spoiler: I hope to see some action with her too!

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[fried]

I don't see the Mum as being a control freak, I see her as being someone who believes in exclusivity; that now they've had sex it means that they're a couple, so the Mum believes that her son should break up with Haley because he's now in a relationship with her. To me, that's not controlling but simply a black and white view of what sex means, that she equates sex with love and that that love means you're now in a committed relationship. Yes, some people in some cases can take this view to extremes and become total psycho bitches, but I don't think the Mum is like this and is looking at it in the purest sense; that he's done this with her because he wants to be in a serious relationship with her and that it's not fair to Haley to continue that relationship.

By "control freak" I'm intending to reference her apparent background leading into the game and how that may be consistent with what we've seen of her intentions/attitudes to date, actually:

(from the Prologue)

"I live in a lovely house with a lady named Karen, she has always been a friend of the family as far back as I can remember."
"When my parents both died in a tragic accident, she and her husband offered to foster me so I didn't have to go to an orphanage."
"Over the years I’ve had many offers for adoption, but I've been content here, Karen is strict but fair, I've always turned them down."
"Karen has never minded, her husband passed away so I’ve been good company for her, though she has never tried to adopt me herself. I think she feels it would be as if she was trying to replace my parents."
"Now though, I’ve reached the age of majority. No one is responsible for me and I'm free to make my own choices."
"Karen says I'm welcome to to live here for as long as I like though, which is great of her, but I’ll be leaving for college soon anyway."
"Got that? Okay, because this prologue is all about her sister and when she came to visit us, so lets begin."

While this initially sounded like a family friend taking on an unexpected burden out of extreme consideration, looking back it seems these otherwise innocent characterizations (from the MC's perspective) imply Karen has long wanted the MC to stay with her. The official patched version removes much of this prologue context, which I feel is unfortunate.

As we see during the v0.8 installment, she mentions how the MC actually did fill her need for a man over the years (supporting my guess above), but his return from college made her take the next step of wanting ALL of him.

To that point, she fully controlled the evening's pace and direction, with the MC as a willing lapdog (lapdick?): it was apparent as the evening progressed that her plan is to never let him leave again. Forcefully? Maybe not, but certainly she is giving him no options nor did she seek his input: this is a one-way relationship for her.

I feel this goes beyond black/white views of reliationship exclusivity and - especially given some background context - taps into her natural inclination to keep the MC in his place for meeting her needs.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Spoiler: v0.08 Ending

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I look at that first line as being a product of her realising how much she missed her son when he went away to college. It's possible she means it in the literal sense but also possible she means it in the emotional sense, as in she wants him to be faithful to her. But even if she does mean it in the literal sense, I think she's just so deliriously happy to have him back with her that she's forgotten for a moment about him going back to college.

As for the second line, well, that just goes back to my earlier post about her viewing this sexual encounter as them entering into a committed relationship with one another and so the natural course of action would be to end the previous relationship.

Spoiler: P.S.

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[Mondoblasto]

You could argue that sylistically her "Karen" statement could be changed to "your mother" or similar, but I think it was intentionally kept as you saw it and fits appropriately with the context.

It's not planned, it's a mistake. When the mom brought him to the store, in the patched version she corrects Michelle when she assumed that the MC was a love interest by directly stating that he was her son. (Michelle then joked that if she could maybe have a shot at him.)

Now with patched 0.8, she says, working on the knowledge that Karen and the MC are mother and son and that he's in the store with his GF, that she's surprised at that because she was sure the mother and son had a thing going on?? 'Oh, I'm surprised you have a GF because I was sure you were going out with your mom'? Who tells their friend's son that?

 

[ZagorTeNay]

Can I make a small request? Ditch annoying gf and bring back officer Yuru.
Thanks.

 

[fried]

It's not planned, it's a mistake. When the mom brought him to the store, in the patched version she corrects Michelle when she assumed that the MC was a love interest by directly stating that he was her son. (Michelle then joked that if she could maybe have a shot at him.)

Now with patched 0.8, she says, working on the knowledge that Karen and the MC are mother and son and that he's in the store with his GF, that she's surprised at that because she was sure the mother and son had a thing going on?? 'Oh, I'm surprised you have a GF because I was sure you were going out with your mom'? Who tells their friend's son that?

As I pointed out, Michelle has never called Karen anything but her name. So, your argument seems stylistic and is certainly valid to request. I could make that change and update my patch quickly, but am not sure who to petitition for the post-1 linked patch.

Something to consider: even in the patched version of v0.06 after Karen explains that the MC was her son (as opposed to her foster in un-patched), Michelle still came up to him while Karen was in the dressing room and gave him a wink-wink "You're a lucky guy" statement - she apparently didn't care about their familial relationship and sincerely got the impression they were after each other.

So, this behavior you described is actually consistent with how Michelle sees their relationship, even after their mother/son (or foster parent/foster child) reality was offered. "Who tells their friend's son that?" Michelle, apparently

 

[Holy Bacchus]

It's not planned, it's a mistake. When the mom brought him to the store, in the patched version she corrects Michelle when she assumed that the MC was a love interest by directly stating that he was her son. (Michelle then joked that if she could maybe have a shot at him.)

Now with patched 0.8, she says, working on the knowledge that Karen and the MC are mother and son and that he's in the store with his GF, that she's surprised at that because she was sure the mother and son had a thing going on?? 'Oh, I'm surprised you have a GF because I was sure you were going out with your mom'? Who tells their friend's son that?

That seemed more like a mistake to me. The line,"Oh, I could have swore there was something going on between you and Karen", will be something that's meant for the non-incest version but was accidentally left in by the patcher, either because they didn't notice it or simpy didn't think to write an alternate line for the incest version.

Either way, it's minor issue and happens quite often with these patches since these folks are just good samaritans using their free time to restore these game to their proper, pre-Patreon rule changes glory, so mistakes are bound to happen every once in a while.

 

[Only4You]

As for the second lin, well, that just goes back to my earlier post about her viewing this sexual encounter as them entering into a committed relationship with one another and so the natural course of action would be to end the previous relationship.

I don't know - to me, it seemed more of a sexual thing than the commitment for a real relationship. I don't know what's going on in Karen's head but the MC never showed any sort of commitment (or indication of it for that matter) to Karen. And Karen didn't even ask him/try to persuade him to enter a relationship before they had sex. If anything, she's just voicing her side of things by those demands. And I think if I were in a similar position it would seem extremely selfish of me to forthright make such a demand of someone I truly care for. Karen didn't even care to ask the MC where he was with Haley in terms of relationship. It's not as if their relationship was already dwindling, and it was just a matter of putting an end to it. And also, what did that poor girl Haley do to deserve it?
It would make more sense, though, if she said those words without thinking them through, just as an effect of "post-coital glow".

Spoiler: PS

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[Lucius Drake]

I need more Rosa

 

[fried]

That seemed more like a mistake to me. The line,"Oh, I could have swore there was something going on between you and Karen", will be something that's meant for the non-incest version but was accidentally left in by the patcher, either because they didn't notice it or simpy didn't think to write an alternate line for the incest version.

Either way, it's minor issue and happens quite often with these patches since these folks are just good samaritans using their free time to restore these game to their proper, pre-Patreon rule changes glory, so mistakes are bound to happen every once in a while.

Yeah, as mentioned above, I offered a patch for v0.8 and didn't see a problem with that line (for all the reasons already outlined) and apparently the "official" patcher didn't either.

Primary point being that Michelle thinks Karen and the MC are shtupping each other even in the foster parent/child un-patched version so this behavior would seem consistent with a patched version. We're only talking about changing "Karen" to "your mother" here, I believe: in either version, Michelle openly suggests these two are going after each other and doesn't seem to have a care that they are in a parent/child relationship.

So, it's a stylistic request that could be made if we knew who the official patcher was ...

 

[Buster65]

I don't know why there are so many discussions about "who said what"... C'mon guys!! I'ts a porn game!!! (and a good one!!)
Play... enjoy... and FAP!! (At least it's what I do) LOL

 

[BigD1984]

I did a little advertisment for this great game like this on my PS 4:

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I hope some of you could make the same, but don`t post the hardcore scenes, you know because of Sony.

 

[Danyboy]

I don't know - to me, it seemed more of a sexual thing than the commitment for a real relationship. I don't know what's going on in Karen's head but the MC never showed any sort of commitment (or indication of it for that matter) to Karen. And Karen didn't even ask him/try to persuade him to enter a relationship before they had sex. If anything, she's just voicing her side of things by those demands. And I think if I were in a similar position it would seem extremely selfish of me to forthright make such a demand of someone I truly care for. Karen didn't even care to ask the MC where he was with Haley in terms of relationship. It's not as if their relationship was already dwindling, and it was just a matter of putting an end to it. And also, what did that poor girl Haley do to deserve it?
It would make more sense, though, if she said those words without thinking them through, just as an effect of "post-coital glow".

Spoiler: PS

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I understand it like this:Karen is not having sex w him just for sex, but because she loves him, hence wants relationship w him and she thinks mc feeling same way(She said it herself about him filling her need/love for a man). For me game has been leaning toward Karen/mc romance for a while, afterall she is the only one w whom mc has all the romantic moments. But still its porn game, and you cant actually expect mc being faithful to one woman, only in the end maybe.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I don't know - to me, it seemed more of a sexual thing than the commitment for a real relationship. I don't know what's going on in Karen's head but the MC never showed any sort of commitment (or indication of it for that matter) to Karen. And Karen didn't even ask him/try to persuade him to enter a relationship before they had sex. If anything, she's just voicing her side of things by those demands. And I think if I were in a similar position it would seem extremely selfish of me to forthright make such a demand of someone I truly care for. Karen didn't even care to ask the MC where he was with Haley in terms of relationship. It's not as if their relationship was already dwindling, and it was just a matter of putting an end to it. And also, what did that poor girl Haley do to deserve it?
It would make more sense, though, if she said those words without thinking them through, just as an effect of "post-coital glow".

Spoiler: PS

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It doesn't matter if the MC showed signs of wanting a commitment or not because it's all about the interpretation of what sex means to different people. From my point of view, Karen seems to see sex as a sign of love, that when two people do it with one another they're doing it for love and therefore are committing themselves to each other. As such, she perceives that the MC wanting to have sex with her means he's in love with her and thus wants to be in a committed relationship with her hence why she believes he should break up with Haley since the MC is now, in her mind, in a relationship with her.

 

[Good Cossutius]

I stumbled upon this gem accidentally just this morning and finished it throughout the day. Top quality graphics and animations and a good story, needs more recognition.

 

[Lucius Drake]

yeah she wants to please her master and wants him to punish her

Spoiler: Rosa knows what she wants

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@ZagorTeNay alot of people want to make officer Juru the new girl friend

If I had to choose between all the girls in this game... Rosa would come first Not only because she's a sub. She's kind of cute when she compares the MC with a donkey

 

[King Monkey Mon]

If I had to choose between all the girls in this game... Rosa would come first Not only because she's a sub. She's kind of cute when she compares the MC with a donkey

@Eerie Entity @Idkanythingsmarter
this is my list

Aunt Nikki
Mommy
Juru
Rosa
Doctor williams
Hailey