RPGM Completed Treasure of Nadia [v1.0117] [NLT Media]

[Omnikuken]

And which one would that be?

The bestest vaporware known to man : Otome Function > over 12 years in the making, dev goes dead about once a year (his last blog update was in Jan 2019), we barely got anything showing the game (last "demo" was a 5 min video from 2011). Only good thing is my avatar is from the game and it probably held up Hongfire for the better part of ~5 years, though most of that time was me Google-translating the blog posts and talking to myself since nothing happened in the thread (and the game)

 

[oCATo]

It doesn't really matter who's at fault here, the cheat patch or the game itself.

Yes. it is important to help.

berating and insulting and calling it false and bad, instead of helping is bad and malicious.

Usually cheats are updated with the game versions, but even a total illiterate like myself understands that its not the case here.

Dont do anything. There are players who can do that ....

Bottom line is, if you haven't majored in computer science, just don't cheat in this game.

You do not need ....
You can ask someone - have this - can this - and like, to help...
... and help you, that you can continue to play the game with one hand.

 

[theMickey_]

I can't turn it off it is only in on

Which game version are you playing? PC? Mac? Linux? Android? Full game or "Update Only"? Un-Compressed or Compressed?

If you're playing the full un-compressed PC version, please send me your save game (vie Direct Message) and I'll have a look.

 

[D-Two]

Now the incest file contains much more letters than the original file. May be that there is not enough space in the comprfessed verion and therefore results in errors. You would have to check that.

This not easy. You now delete approximately every second letter in the incest file and adjust the sizes, while strictly observing the structure, then there should be no more errors. If there is anyway, this error would be programmed.

If you want to know more about the exact structure of the two files, ask. I will then explain it in more detail.

So many explanations, but not a true word in there. Compressing only affects the resources the game uses, the underlying engine is untouched and couldn't care less if you have hi-res video or not. Same goes for the texts, the game will just display what ever you put into that file.

Judging by your reasoning about both update-releases and compressed releases, it's quite apparent that you have no idea at all how these things work, leading to you reading in a lot more potential problems there than there actually is.

Update-only means you only download the files that have been modified. Every file that is untouched is excluded since you already have it on your computer.
Compressing affects the size of resources. You can get strange behavior with transparency and similar things when the new images and things are compressed more aggressively, but a few extra characters in a string will not matter at all.

 

[oCATo]

...

Do you have a little miniature idea which two files are involved? It doesn't look like it.
You're just looking for scolding.
Have fun with this !

 

[oCATo]

I not understand you. "Betrayed" have

[Cheat Mod] [Ren'Py] Betrayed cheatmod [Universal]

and something like "Cheat Mod" is very very bad in your eyes and make brocken games !
you say.

Why is in your eyes cheat mode here bad and in Betrayed good ?

 

[theMickey_]

I not understand you. "Betrayed" have
[Cheat Mod] [Ren'Py] Betrayed cheatmod [Universal]
and something like "Cheat Mod" is very very bad in your eyes and make brocken games !
you say.
Why is in your eyes cheat mode here bad and in Betrayed good ?

You're absolutely 100% right, you didn't understand a single word I said!

• Everyone can cheat if she/he wants to
• If you want to cheat, make sure the tools you're using are up to date!
  (The Cheat Mod for the game "Treasure of Nadia" linked in the OP is NOT up to date!)
• For example:
  • if you use a save editor for RPG Maker MV files, and you know what you're changing (and if there are limits you must obey), be my guest!
  • Using an outdated cheat mod is bad and will FUCK UP (sorry, can't say that) screw your game and/or game saves
• If you screw up your game/save game because you did something wrong, don't blame it on the developers of the game!

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[D-Two]

Do you have a little miniature idea which two files are involved? It doesn't look like it.
You're just looking for scolding.
Have fun with this !

No, actually I'm just letting people know that it's a bad idea to follow your advice since you don't know what you're talking about. See it as my way of helping others avoid making mistakes.

 

[oCATo]

You're absolutely 100% right, you didn't understand a single word I said!

I understand your words. It's your morality that I don't understand.

Everyone can cheat if she/he wants to

OK. it's good.
Please do not say anything to others that does not correspond to this!

If you want to cheat, make sure the tools you're using are up to date!

No, that's not my job. This is the job of developers who want all players to be happy with their game. And that is currently not the case

(The Cheat Mod for the game "Treasure of Nadia" linked in the OP is NOT up to date!)

This is a bad mistake that makes many unhappy. I hope the developers have mercy on all the players who are suffering because they don't make the bugs go away.

And - because the developers don't have mercy, its me, to have mercy with on those who are unhappy here and tell them what to do to make these bugs go away. Please have mercy too! And don't scold and don't judge! You can also help if you want.

 

[DD69-1]

I understand your words. It's your morality that I don't understand.


OK. it's good.
Please do not say anything to others that does not correspond to this!


No, that's not my job. This is the job of developers who want all players to be happy with their game. And that is currently not the case


This is a bad mistake that makes many unhappy. I hope the developers have mercy on all the players who are suffering because they don't make the bugs go away.

And - because the developers don't have mercy, its me, to have mercy with on those who are unhappy here and tell them what to do to make these bugs go away. Please have mercy too! And don't scold and don't judge! You can also help if you want.

please do not spam the thread.. do you always want the last word in argument.. hell you're the one starting them.. in your eyes summetime saga coders would be gods right?

 

[oCATo]

No, actually I'm just letting people know that it's a bad idea to follow your advice since you don't know what you're talking about.

OK. I'm trying to teach you.
Here you can see two files on two ways, have exactly the same structure.





If you replace each with the other, there will be no mistakes.
If there are errors, these errors are programmed.

can be, you can understand. if not - don't be sad.

 

[D-Two]

OK. I'm trying to teach you.
Here you can see two files on two ways, have exactly the same structure.

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View attachment 671937

If you replace each with the other, there will be no mistakes.
If there are errors, these errors are programmed.

can be, you can understand. if not - don't be sad.

And, as I hope most reading has understood by now, the game engine in itself doesn't care what names you use (of course with the exception that the UI breaks if the names are too long, and a potential overflow if the strings are extremely long, but my knowledge of RPGM isn't good enough to know how it handles things like that.)

And just to make it easier for everybody else to understand why your claims are bogus, these kind of files are used when you release translations. By your logic, all translators for RPGM games would need to find words that are the exact same length as the original language in every single sentence otherwise the game would behave strange with sequences not triggering as expected.

And let's keep in mind that RPGM is a fairly well tested engine, it's not something NLT have built from scratch.

 

[Deleted member 1672768]

Well, not much point wasting time on this forum, even more pointlessly than usual, while recursive arguments about cheats, mods and hacks are still raging. So I'm off for a nice long run through the greening English countryside, bathed in radiant sunlight, alone with my thoughts, and leave this once-upon-a-time moderately enjoyable thread to orbit the drain in ever decreasing circles. See you later, Velociraptors. Try not to claw each other's eyes out.

 

[worldofmac84]

No, that's not my job. This is the job of developers who want all players to be happy with their game. And that is currently not the case

I'm going out on a limb here, but I have a hunch the phrase "If you want to cheat, make sure the tools you're using are up to date!" was not directed to you personally, but it was some sort of generic "you" - as in "If someone wants to cheat, he better make sure that the tools he's using are up to date".
Not that it makes any difference, but I guess we can all agree on that.

That said, I'm joining Harpocrates in his stroll....

 

[theMickey_]

[...] This is the job of developers who want all players to be happy with their game. And that is currently not the case [...]

Oh, I think now I understand why we both talked past each other:
- The game "Treasure of Nadia" has been developed by "NLT Media"
- The Cheat Mod -- although linked in the OP -- was developed by redknight00, just a random guy/gal who has nothing to do with NLT Media

We agree, that the developer of the mod (redknight00) should either update the mod or remove it from OP, right? Phew, finally...

Hey Harpocrates, worldofmac84, mind if I join you on a walk? I promise I'll keep my mouth shut (at least I try ;-))...

 

[VeeBee1920]

Awww come on everyone, lets all just kiss and make up

 

[theMickey_]

On a completely unrelated note: I replayed all of the game because I accidentally deleted the backup of my own save games while checking other save games for errors (what's the use of a backup if you put it in a "temp" directory" which you then delete? ).

And I must say it was a blast playing it again! Although I skipped most of the dialogues, I managed to keep track of every bit of money I spent to reach the end of each release. In conclusion so far you only need a total of about $41,000 to buy all items needed to finish the current release v34052 with 34%!

While that may sound a lot to someone who does not like grinding talismans: I only had to grind for about 10-15 minutes total in release v14011 to buy the house decorations for Tasha's Booty Call - that's it! Other than that I of course always picked up every single spawned talisman along my way (I never sold any silver or gold talismans btw!), and picked up every Ginseng plant I could find and sold them to Pricia (Green Ginseng $250, Red Ginseng $600). And with the game being generous enough to give you ~$15,000 extra (selling the ancient staff, selling a stone talisman to a stranger on the beach and selling something else I've already forgotten), I never had to grind for talisman.

It took me less than six hours to play from a fresh start to 34% (with a lot of dialogue skipping, because I read them before), and as I said before, it was a blast and worth every minute of it!

View attachment Treasure of Nadia Expenses.txt

 

[oCATo]

Oh, I think now I understand why we both talked past each other:
- The game "Treasure of Nadia" has been developed by "NLT Media"
- The Cheat Mod -- although linked in the OP -- was developed by redknight00, just a random guy/gal who has nothing to do with NLT Media

We agree, that the developer of the mod (redknight00) should either update the mod or remove it from OP, right? Phew, finally...

Yes.

4 Steps:

1.) in ---- https://f95zone.to/threads/treasure-of-nadia-redmod-v9-rednight00.38590/
Delete this all: ---- Download:

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2.) in ---- https://f95zone.to/threads/treasure-of-nadia-v34052-nlt-media.38582/
Delete Cheat Mod: ---- Extras:

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- Cheat Mod - Fan Sigs - Fan Sigs 2

3.) Where there is now Cheat Mod, there must be a cleaning tool,
that deletes all old parts from the cheat mod in the sub-paths from the user data.

4.) Instead of the yellow text, there must be a brewing instruction
that states when and how to use the cleaning tool


If you can do this, there is freedom and happiness here.
And you never have to scold players who don't want to run after the money.

 

[theMickey_]

4 Steps:

Agreed, except: your "cleaning tool" does not remove or clean any save game issues related to the cheat mod. If a save game is corrupted (take this one for example, I tested Slot 2 and Slot 4), it can't be "cleaned". Only a fresh start will fix this. And by fresh start I mean delete your old save games (delete ToN's save game folder "User Data", no need to take a backup), and then start a "New Game" with an official, un-modded game.

 

[oCATo]

Agreed, except: your "cleaning tool" does not remove or clean any save game issues related to the cheat mod.

Yes. I also think.
If a save is corrupt, it cannot be fixed. Delete ! and repeat with a clean save.

If a save game is corrupted (take this one for example, I tested Slot 2 and Slot 4),
it can't be "cleaned". Only a fresh start will fix this.

I mean, this error example you show me here, comming from the old Parts from old Cheat Mod in User Data. And start with a clean save alon not help. First, the User Data need to be cleaned.

And by fresh start I mean delete your old save games (delete ToN's save game folder "User Data", no need to take a backup), and then start a "New Game" with an official, un-modded game.

Is different. if the errors comming only from old cheat mod, a backup can work after cleaning the User Data and start with a new Game. Can be, can not be. you see.

If the Errors comming from stupid editing with a PRGM-Editor without knowledging, a Backup can not help after cleaning the User Data. All need to be deleted and start new.

now i'm very tired and can't concentrate well anymore and therefore maybe i didn't understand everything correctly ....