To be specific it's credit card and payment processing companies that don't want to be associated with porn because they're all puritanical cunts. Although it wouldn't surprise me if the people behind Patreon thought the same way.
Ren'Py Twisted World [v0.1.1 Remake] [SnatsGames]
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- Sep 22, 2017
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It's mostly because sites like subscribestar don't use paypal. Devs use forums like this one for advertising so they don't really care about reachability on patreon. But yea at this point, unless you're making a super vanilla game there are more cons than pros for being on patreon. Every year they get more and more restrictive. They have made it pretty clear that they want nsfw content out of their platform, and the only reason they don't just ban all games is because they don't want to deal with the backlash of hundreds of devs and their fans. It's way easier to remove a few at a time.
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The remake is really good, love that the heaven and hell are different and new places can be explore,. Unlike the previous.
We just don't like that we started from point A again instead of continuing the story, thought snats gonna just change the models and just renovate the maps.
Probably for the rules of each country is a real pain in the ass to adjust to some laws
What do you mean? There's a sea of porn online you can digitally purchase.
- Oct 16, 2020
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yes it's credit cards but that's not the real reason.
i'm pretty sure they don't have any real moral compass, they only care to the extend of whether it's making them more or less money.
there are national and international regulations for each country regarding certain pornographic content (human trafficking, CP, sexual exploitation, etc) and from time to time the authorities will hammer mastercard and visa for this stuff regardless if there's good evidence or not that there's anything illegal (imagine some judge getting triggered by something they saw online and issuing a judicial order against whoever is in charge of it).
mastercard and visa then have to spend time and money defending themselves for virtually no benefit.
it's an obvious equation, they just prefer to get rid of stuff even remotely risky at the drop of a hat to save money on lawyers.
The remake was great but I really hope the dev isn't going to drip feed content like so many other Patreon projects that get some notoriety. If it will still be a Patreon project much longer that is. Have they made some kind of official statement on the "review"? Can't really think of something in the game that could be described as glorifying violence or rape, and the art is far from photorealistic so it shouldn't get dinged there either.
- Sep 19, 2019
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I am going to be real at this point they should just stop beating around the bush and say they don't want anything adult rated its very clear here with all these dumbass rules
- Sep 22, 2017
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Like I sand in another post, I think the strategy is just to keep coming up with dumb rules to make it really hard for devs to have their games on patreon, so they move on their own to other platforms. They don't want to deal with the backlash of hundreds of devs and their fanbases all at once. It will not surprise me if in the next 2 or 3 years they decide to ban all games. Most devs don't want to, but they should start seriously considering moving their games to other platforms because you never know what dumb rule they will come up next.
This remake is "you should have left this in the drafts" visualized. To hell with complaints about any other aspect of it, this remake makes the original look Shakespearean in comparison. The intro was snappy, to the point, and quickly established the whole deal so you can get to the fucking in a timely manner. THIS version's intro went on for so long, I lost my boner. 'Nuff said.
So many narrative decisions included make me go "but for why tho??" Why try to string along your fanbase with so many promises when you, at the end of the day, knew that you wouldn't be able to deliver? And don't say they were rushed because at this stage, what's another month or two to polish and add stuff? Adding in systems no one (I don't THINK) asked for, changing up the models, conceptualizing a remake when the original was starting to really hit its stride, none of it makes sense.
Shit's disheartening. Hope y'all find joy in it though.
So many narrative decisions included make me go "but for why tho??" Why try to string along your fanbase with so many promises when you, at the end of the day, knew that you wouldn't be able to deliver? And don't say they were rushed because at this stage, what's another month or two to polish and add stuff? Adding in systems no one (I don't THINK) asked for, changing up the models, conceptualizing a remake when the original was starting to really hit its stride, none of it makes sense.
Shit's disheartening. Hope y'all find joy in it though.
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They obviously learned the lesson of first tumblr, and then almost OnlyFans before they reverted that going PC/family friendly overnight will disintegrate your website faster than an h-bomb, so they're definitely going for a death by 1,000 cuts strategy. Pretty soon all that will pass their censors will be the most vanilla romance fare that you might as well not call it porn anymore, and they'll be satisfied to leave that there and have a bit of their cake + whatever mainstream appeal they've accrued.
Honestly we need a payment processor who just says fuck all the countries with weird-ass rules (get a VPN), that can have enough cache to function in mainstream transactions but mitigate the risk of adult content. That's pretty pie-in-the-sky but we can't have the adult scene go back to M'n'F type content and people working for updoots on Newgrounds tier stuff or vanilla only. subscribestar is good, but I'm not sure what's keeping it from catching on (I'm guessing it's the "risk" with adult content that always seems to be an issue, I haven't done enough research to know for sure).
Any news on what's snats next decision? Is the game abandoned? No updates or releases of the hospital events lmfao. I hope he doesn't use the patreon shit as an excuse to ditch February release
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- Aug 28, 2021
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He never said the hospital update was coming this month.
The hospital is waaaaay longer than Heaven and Hell.
This is from a dev log on 12/16/23 I think.
He actually said it was coming last month, but given that Heaven and Hell got pushed back to last month, most of us who are inclined to charitability have assumed the Hospital prologue will be coming this month... If that's not the case then it will be an absolute L on Snats' part unless he's taken a bunch of feedback to make some substantive changes, because the impression was that what needed to be done on the second half is mostly bugfixing/testing.
So unless he was lying or he is indeed making feedback-based changes, there is no reason to not expect the update some time this month. There's no reason to assume "error fixing" and "story-related stuff" should take more than an additional month-and-a-half, assuming Snats was already basically done with renders, area scripts, and most of the writing. I haven't been on the Discord, and the SS page isn't showing any updates; I'm assuming it's just not updating for non-members. So until someone is willing to leak some form of progress, we have to assume he at best grossly misrepresented the work that was left on the Hospital prologue or was inspired to make some substantive improvements. The worst assumptions are of course already all over the thread.
- Sep 22, 2017
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Damn.. snats just made an announcement on discord, he will just have the game on SS from now on. At least he will have more creative freedom on SS, but most of his support was on patreon and there will be a good number of people that won't be able to support him on SS.
That's unfortunate... Well, a lot of people have made the move to SS (I haven't yet, even though I hate Patreon with a red hot fury at this point... I probably should lol.) and the more shit like this happens, the more will. I get that it doesn't have PayPal but PayPal is a huge part of the reason adult creators have issues in the first place.
- Sep 22, 2017
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From the post he made on discord it seemed like they were just trying to find any excuse to remove him. I think we will start to see a lot more devs leaving patreon if they continue coming up with new rules. More than 90% of the games there are breaking some rule at this point so it's inevitable. The sad thing is that this situation will result in some games getting abandoned or getting updates less often. Bigger devs will probably be able to get enough support once they make the move, but for the smaller devs that are barelly making enough to work on the game it will be a very big hit.
Hopefully the ecosystem will find a new equilibrium. When tumblr died a lot of people were left stranded but people eventually resettled on twitter/newgrounds. I know SS is lacking a lot of features/infrastructure but adult creators always persevere. No matter how much some people want to quash this space, it's just a part of what humans want, whether some people want to hide it or not.
Yeah suuureee buddy lmfao
I think if patreon continue like that then it won't be long until subscribestar bring more payments options lol. Creator are the only reasons why sites like patreon are active lmfao
- Aug 28, 2021
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"January" or "update V0.1.5". Nowhere does he say, that V0.1.5 is coming out in February.
He may have pre-made things like animations etc, but then you have to actually put all that together and make sure it works properly. Like take Afiria's boobjob for example---her boobs were clipping and it took awhile to fix them. Plus, there's the script and let me tell you, you don't get much written in a day.