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The fact that she showed remorse wouldn't change my decision. She will never be a LI and if she dies I'll be glad (and even more so if it's the MC who does it)
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yeah while I don't really agree with your view of it making her off a LI list or wanting her to die at least yet. I don't think Akira showing remorse will make it any better in this one unlike the one from the other game for me. As if I recall correctly it felt like she wasn't really fucking around and has no problem making people disappear. Now if she has a pretty damn good reason for doing it and wasn't telling us the truth as to why she blackmailed the MC then yeah for me it be water under the bridge like nothing happened. Just because I like her right now as I enjoy all the cute moments with her doesn't mean im not wary or trust her.
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If the other game is what I think it is, she's not a LI either... but at least she doesn't deserve to die. I won't cry if it happens, but it won't be the MC who will do it in that case.
It's possible that the messages are intended as an image campaign to improve our opinion of her, or maybe the Dev thought that they looked better that way (intentionally or not). In any case, after the blackmail there's nothing the Dev can do to change my opinion about her.
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haha well in that other game I do think think your opinion is slightly overly harsh from what I recall since her character improves alot. However that's just me we each have our limits on things and personalities and im a real forgiving person so naturally it's hard for me to see your side of things in that one but this one more justified and easier to see and understand.
Yeah it felt like the messages was probably to improve her character. Unless there really is a nicer side to her deep down and the dev wanted to show a bit of that before it fully comes out in the future so the player knows show isn't a total bitch and hard ass if we do play her path.
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Personally, I hate blackmail, whether it's done by the MC or done to the MC. Once the MC has been blackmailed, every blackmailer is no longer a LI (if she was one before), and if she admits it was a mistake, bad luck, but that doesn't change what she did or my decision about it.
Whether she has a nice side is something that, personally, doesn't matter to me.
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yeah I get it and can 1/2 way understand it even if I can't in some games and can in others. we just have different personalities when it comes to that subject, not something we will ever see eye to eye on for every LI that does it. For me context matters more so I can get over 1 LI doing it but not the other it isn't always black and white to me. Like I do agree with you in this game when it comes to Akira just not to the extent of wanting to kill her off at least not yet. Or being cut off the LI list for me ( but that's cause I play most paths if there is something I like even if I mostly dislike everything else about a LI)
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Me after reading people wishing death to Akira:
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Well, she was first to do a death threat to the MC, so eye for an eye.
it saddens me to say but it's showing the signs of a soon to be abandoned game
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Says the dude posting a cringe screenshot from a porn game he is keeping for some reason. Self awareness is hard to find in this site, but god dayumm
.Akira sucks and even if she doesn't die, it is a waste to make a LI that will be hated by a lot of your players (and for good reason), weird decision, hope it doesn't cost the game too much.
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Hard disagree not every character needs to be liked it's fine to make some that are meant to be hated. I personally don't want Akira to die even if I hated her , yeah she is probably at the bottom of my list but I dont hate her just a general dislike over other characters while finding her funny.
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I'm not sure why it would be a good idea to make players hate an LI. And I'm not saying this specifically for the LI we've been talking about, it's in general.
I guess by now, if you've read my comments, you know that I don't mind any new information I learn about her in the slightest as far as changing my opinion. She's not a LI, and she won't be one no matter what happens.
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Sorry in advance if I repeat my self some or if this is a tad to long it's late about to go to bed and not good at explaining myself in short sentences.
I personally like it but it depends on the LI and how much a dev makes you hate them. Someone like Akira isn't too far gone for me that I can't see my self hating her unless she does something else, right now just a general dislike. Now it might just be me but I do like it when there is a LI that is meant to be hated initially but then over time the writing makes you grow to like them slowly and all the while they have some character growth and can become likeable down the road or they just change. While that has been done before I dont see it done often and it's different enough I just like it. ( Not sure if that is the case with Akira or not I think it is tho)
But you are also right it isn't good to make players hates a LI unless there is some sort of plan for them. Cause if a dev makes them too unlikeable and hated what is the point and making a path for them, at that point might as well make them a non lewdable characters. So it really depends on how hated they make said LI to much is no good but if a dev can find a good balance it leaves opportunity for different and non generic character arcs depending on what a dev has planned.
So I don't really see it as a bad thing but not something that is easy to pull off either , it has to be done just right I think. I see a hated LI as potential for good story telling with that character later. Of course there will be players like you when it comes to certain themes like blackmail for instance that crosses a line to the point where you won't see those plans for said character because what made them hated to enough for you to write them off. Which is okay to as not every LI is going to appeal to everyone even if there is good story telling to be had in the future. So while making a LI hated can close many doors it can open more doors as well it all comes down to execution of the character and any future plans for them.
Sorry if this is a bit wordy but that is kind of how I see it anyways.
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Ok, here I'm going to answer only the part about the game, because if we start talking about anything else, we'll quickly go into an off-topic conversation.
I hate it when anyone blackmails the MC. If they're LIs, as is the case with Akira, then any possibility of me wanting to have a relationship with them disappears completely. There's no possibility of evolution or justification. In my eyes, they've stopped being LIs forever, and the most they can hope for is for me to be indifferent to them. But this isn't the case for Akira, I hate Akira.
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which is fair like I said before we all have different limits for me it isn't a deal breaker until I learn more about the context as to the why if there is anything more to learn that is . Even then i'll still play her path unless she does something way worst or her personality shifts to be way worst , as im a bit of a completionist so I rarely skip paths.
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The truth is that I have no interest in Valentine either. And that's not going to change in the future no matter what happens.