RPGM Abandoned Valiant Warrior Astrid [v0.5.2] [Dynamiteredgames]

[Zarathos4]

And i don't like the fact that you can be submissive AND dominant AND exhibitionist while still acting naïve and prudish in certain circumstances.

I'd like to choose to make the character either completely slutty or not Naïve but with some self respect or completely Prude and to get special event regarding what path i choose and not being able to be everything at once.

But also. Its still early in the game. Perhaps she is finding her side, so she's all these things. So later when the game is more complete it will be changed to make Astrid either more Dominant and Proud or Submissive and Slutty. Right now it kinda make sense. Its really. Astrid is just now being exposed to this herself. It makes sense to be everything. If the same happens later, perhaps your point will be more valid.

 

[TomberryDude]

Being dominant or submissive in sex has nothing to do with being shy or "prudish", or even naive for that matter.

It would be nice to see a bit of difference in scenes and Astrid's attitude depending on your stats but that would take a lot of work, time, and make us have to play the game multiple times to see everything. Which personally, I'm not likely to do.

As a side note. It would be cool to have a female mc not act entirely like all the other ones. But at least she's one of the not-annoying ones, it could be a lot worse. So I'm cool.

 

[Xaoyu]

Whats wrong with being dominant and submissive and exhibitionist at the same time? I personally know plenty of peeps who are like that. To put it in the most simplest of terms, it would be they are switches who like a bit public play. Why can't Astrid be this way?

It's not wrong but it's not really interesting. Cliches aren't super interesting neither but at least it's credible and not without logic. You make choices to fit the cliche which prevents you from using certain roads but unlock some others.

The thing is that if you like dominant women, the interest of the game end once your character become too corrupted since she does not act the way you like anymore. It's great when your character stay dominant but things happen to her anyway 'cause you're here for the adult content to begin with.

So it's too bad to make a game where either you just act slutty and unlock everything or you act prudish and you unlock almost nothing and just make the main quest 'cause it means only people who like seeing a character becoming crazy will have fun at the end.

Personally i enjoyed playing the game The Heiress 2 or 3 times just to try to follow one certain road and see what happen, what does not happen... unfortunately the honorable way is just really less rich in content. And i fear it will be the same for Astrid once the game will be almost done.

Obviously if you want to go slutty you should have more consented relations and at the contrary more groping and forced relations for a prudish character (how those forced relations happen/end could depend of your dominant/submissive stat). You see what i mean ? More depth and more consequences thanks to your choices

With Chronicles of Leridia the dev kind of tries to do things that way but finally he just fall in the trap of lust : whatever are your choices regarding the main character she just like a big cock riding her, even if she's being raped and you're just like "well... okay whatever. In fact i'm playing a novel again with an over slutty character"

But at least she's one of the not annoying ones

yes it's great he gave us a woman with a normal body, and not extremely good looking which have some self respect (which in fact make her even more beautiful than others). I appreciate that. Finally it's even way more exciting that those bimbos with goddess ass and boobs who become boring to play as.

 

[TomberryDude]

It's not wrong but it's not really interesting. Cliches aren't super interesting neither but at least it's credible and not without logic. You make choices to fit the cliche which prevents you from using certain roads but unlock some others.

The thing is that if you like dominant women, the interest of the game end once your character become too corrupted since she does not act the way you like anymore. It's great when your character stay dominant but things happen to her anyway 'cause you're here for the adult content to begin with.

So it's too bad to make a game where either you just act slutty and unlock everything or you act prudish and you unlock almost nothing and just make the main quest 'cause it means only people who like seeing a character becoming crazy will have fun at the end.

Personally i enjoyed playing the game The Heiress 2 or 3 times just to try to follow one certain road and see what happen, what does not happen... unfortunately the honorable way is just really less rich in content. And i fear it will be the same for Astrid once the game will be almost done.

Obviously if you want to go slutty you should have more consented relations and at the contrary more groping and forced relations for a prudish character (how those forced relations happen/end could depend of your dominant/submissive stat). You see what i mean ? More depth and more consequences thanks to your choices

With Chronicles or Leridia the dev kind of tries to do things that way but finally he just fall in the trap of lust : whatever are your choices regarding the main character she just like a big cock riding her, even if she's being raped and you're just like "well... okay whatever. In fact i'm playing a novel again with an over slutty character"



yes it's great he gave us a woman with a normal body, and not extremely good looking which have some self respect. I appreciate that. Finally it's even way more exciting that those bimbos with goddess ass and boobs who become boring to play as.

You're making a good point, I think. Problems with games like this (woman MC) is whenever you get a choice, you're probably gonna be as submissive as possible because the character starts as a virgin who doesn't know the first thinh about sex and has no interest in it.

Which would be all fine and good if this wasn't "porn". Not picking submissive options would most likely mean no sex happening and that kind of defeats the purpose...

And the whole trap with that is all those characters end up being the exact same and acting the exact same way. And don't have a very defined personallity most of the time.

 

[Xaoyu]

You're making a good point, I think. Problems with games like this (woman MC) is whenever you get a choice, you're probably gonna be as submissive as possible because the character starts as a virgin who doesn't know the first thinh about sex and has no interest in it.

Which would be all fine and good if this wasn't "porn". Not picking submissive options would most likely mean no sex happening and that kind of defeats the purpose...

"sex" does not have to absolutely show penetration. It can be groping with more or less defensive stance from the heroine. It can also be the fact to put the heroine in a vulnerable state (physical violence) even if it does not go further. It can be public humiliation without direct sex action neither...

And that said, if your character isn't submissive there is blackmailing who can forced a dominant and prudish character into sex scene depending of the context or Rape 'cause she gets beaten etc... The important thing is that you don't want that your character start to like porn sex, she gets forced and she wants revenge or tries to go on with this but it does not make her sluttier (seriously you obviously aren't going to want more sex by being raped that's just... well)

 

[TomberryDude]

"sex" does not have to absolutely show penetration. It can be groping with more or less defensive stance from the heroine. It can also be the fact to put the heroine in a vulnerable state (physical violence) even if it does not go further. It can be public humiliation without direct sex action neither...

And that said, if your character isn't submissive there is blackmailing who can forced a dominant and prudish character into sex scene depending of the context or Rape 'cause she gets beaten etc... The important thing is that you don't want that your character start to like porn sex, she gets forced and she wants revenge or tries to go on with this but it does not make her sluttier (seriously you obviously aren't going to want more sex by being raped that's just... well)

For one, I don't think you need a female MC to hate or just not want sex at all. Male MC always want as much sex as possible and usually it's the whole goal of their quest, or the most prevalent one anyway. Personally I'd rather sex was a good, fun, positive experience for everyone. In most circomstances.

You can still make a game, a good one even, and not have your MC try to avoid sex entirely.

With that in mind. I don't hate how these games work, I'm ok with slowly making the character "lewder". I don't like calling it "corrupting" as it makes it sound like sex is actually a bad thing and we should avoid it. But that's just me nitpicking.

But most of all, I just want variety. I want prudish women, I want slutty women, I want dominant women, I want submissive women. I played so many of these games where you play as a woman and it always goes exactly the same. it gets old.

 

[lolguest]

Wow intense discussions on this thread. Nice, here is usually quiet until release days.

Problem is that i already once wanted to tip a developer but then he didn't release any update for months. (like 5 months and we just get a new version with just one more quest) And it was a 2D game without any render to do or even fighting animations.

Supporting when the game still does not have a lot of content is frustrating imo.

If you fear disappointment, Dynamite certainly can be trusted. He takes time to release an update because he's really working on it and the only reason we are not playing 0.5 at this moment is because he is adding more stuff before launch. But, your money is your money you should pay only things that deserves it. Astrid works fine for me.

Regarding all the submissive and dominant stuff, the developer is reworking all these stats and I really think we will be pleased with the result. Instead of worrying about making several paths he can just make different outcomes for each scene, which is way easier, letting you decide what you want Astrid to be.

Dynamite showed a bit of interest about a "pure path". In this 0.5 version we'll see a job without H-events, however most of his patrons (and people here too) really criticized his addition, so I don't think we'll see more of this idea.

 

[Joe Steel]

I don't understand the complaints. You can absolutely play this game and keep Astrid pure and chaste and dominant. Sex, submission, and exhibitionism are always choices. Just say "no."

 

[TomberryDude]

I don't understand the complaints. You can absolutely play this game and keep Astrid pure and chaste and dominant. Sex, submission, and exhibitionism are always choices. Just say "no."

The point, in my case at least, is that someone can be dominant without being chaste. A woman can have sex because she choses to. You don't always have to force them or trick them into it...

Although "complaint" is a strong word for my part. Like I said before, for me it's more of a variety issue and this particular game is actually one of the better ones I think. I like it.

 

[Xaoyu]

With that in mind. I don't hate how these games work, I'm ok with slowly making the character "lewder". I don't like calling it "corrupting" as it makes it sound like sex is actually a bad thing and we should avoid it. But that's just me nitpicking

Of course sex is something natural and great but porn sex as we see it in hgames is borderline a sickness. And the great majority of the time it's not with good people that our heroine end getting bang. It has nothing do to with "love" it all has to do with depravation and destruction of her self esteem.

Talking about the Dominant and submissive stat... they could be both used for rejecting/not rejecting a sex scene and to act accordingly during a sex scene. The dev kind of nailed it with the young virgin boy event who wants to be learned about adult things... you can choose the dominant path by taking the lead and show him the full nude body, something like that. (That said you need to decrease your shame stat and be more and more exhibitionist to unlock those scene and not everyone want to play an exhibitionist Astrid, it's kind of a specific fantasy :coldsweat:

Dynamite showed a bit of interest about a "pure path". In this 0.5 version we'll see a job without H-events, however most of his patrons (and people here too) really criticized his addition, so I don't think we'll see more of this idea.

It's not that there should be jobs without h-event at all. it's that the h-event should not be the same regarding your previous choices for Astrid. The Tavern is a good example of a job with h-event who could turn out badly or stay relatively safe. I don't know what the dev has in mind for the futur of this particular event but we could imagine that a submissive or a slutty Astrid could end up getting bang by customers and a dominant one could either smack pervert customers in the head or just laugh with them at groping but won't allow anything else...

It's almost the case with the flyers job but unfortunately, for now at least, either you accept everything from the citizens, or nothing happen at all.

 

[Luther9555]

How do I decrease Shame level ? I'm after saving Queen and to meet Freja games wants me to go out in the underwear but I don't have enough Shame decreased.

 

[Zarathos4]

How do I decrease Shame level ? I'm after saving Queen and to meet Freja games wants me to go out in the underwear but I don't have enough Shame decreased.

Yeah. Im working on that too. I'm raising lust levels by working for Mage guy. (handing out flyers and letting groping happen. So that I can reduce shame levels by doing his humiliation things.) My Astrid's dominance is super high, so that's I got for knowledge there.

Since I've finished story up till now. It feels very grindy to me.

 

[Fenix34]

is today like national complain day? i feel like this is the 3rd thread ive seen where people are just complaining.

This games amazing, one of the best, keep up the good work.

 

[NeoVlahos]

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[Big Mountain]

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Just a quick update
Aug 7 at 5:46am
Hey guys, just a quick update here. I had a bit of a family emergency, and ended up being out of town for about a week. Just got back home. I need around 2 weeks to get the beta ready. I'm going to be doing some major crunch time so posts will be a bit light till I can get it done. As far as content goes 0.5 will have about 10 new animations, a new area, a few side events, and some mild mechanics changes with the submission/dominant stats. Anyway... as always, thanks so much for the support! I'll be working on getting this done asap

 

[Luther9555]

Yeah. Im working on that too. I'm raising lust levels by working for Mage guy. (handing out flyers and letting groping happen. So that I can reduce shame levels by doing his humiliation things.) My Astrid's dominance is super high, so that's I got for knowledge there.

Since I've finished story up till now. It feels very grindy to me.

So there isn't a way to just decrease Shame ? I just have to do stuff in game and hope that it will decrease Shame ? About a mage I did two things from him and from what I see there isn't anything alse since game doesnt say how much Lust I need.

 

[Big Mountain]

So there isn't a way to just decrease Shame ? I just have to do stuff in game and hope that it will decrease Shame ? About a mage I did two things from him and from what I see there isn't anything alse since game doesnt say how much Lust I need.

i think the 3 tasks for mage in the lab need 20, 40 and 60 lust

and to decrease shame you need to clean the washroom at the inn
just buy potions then go to the sewer and loose so you dont have enough money
after that you cant pay for your room and clean
and the scenes with marcus in the washroom decrease your shame until 85 or 75 not sure
also full arousal ( the heart) decreases shame 10% until you get relief

 

[lolguest]

Yeah. Im working on that too. I'm raising lust levels by working for Mage guy. (handing out flyers and letting groping happen. So that I can reduce shame levels by doing his humiliation things.) My Astrid's dominance is super high, so that's I got for knowledge there.

Since I've finished story up till now. It feels very grindy to me.

The game can be grindy because it's not properly balanced yet. There's a cheat item inside Astrid's inventory that you can use to boost any stats without grind. The dev's intention is to finish the game in a way your stats will be boosted naturally.

 

[Fenix34]

i think the 3 tasks for mage in the lab need 20, 40 and 60 lust

and to decrease shame you need to clean the washroom at the inn
just buy potions then go to the sewer and loose so you dont have enough money
after that you cant pay for your room and clean
and the scenes with marcus in the washroom decrease your shame until 85 or 75 not sure
also full arousal ( the heart) decreases shame 10% until you get relief

you dont actually have to have under 200gold to clean the washroom, you can just choose the option that says "not pay" or whatever it is regardless of how much gold you have.

 

[Hancock]

hi. Game.exe I've installed a game but does not show an icon? !!!