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[desmosome]

As you say, the actress is over 18, therefore it's ok ( though actually, that's CP in Norway doesn't matter if she's 50 years old, if she looks < 18, she's classified as a child in porn ). But an fictional character has no actress, the only "actor" here is the proportion of the drawing. The 'character' the drawing portrays is older, but the drawing itself is still the "wrong" proportions, and therefore falls under CP ( this is the justification for LOLI being illegal in the countries where it's illegal, doesn't matter that we here disagree, it is what it is ).

Ok, so your example of a 16 year old character doing full frontal is not actually "perfectly acceptable/legal" even if the actress is 18 years old. Read what you wrote and what I replied. I was just pointing out the error in your logic when using that example.

Assuming you can see that, let me move on to some other line of questions. This is not a continuation of the prior conversion or argument about hentai. What is Norway's law regarding underage characters being played by non-minors that don't "look underage?" Did Norway ban Euphoria? It has underage characters doing nudity and sex. Is it ok if they don't "look underage?" Not sure how they would determine that for 16-17 year old characters who could look the part with actresses much older than them. What if the character is like 14, but it's played by an 18 year old actress? Does age of the character really not matter?

 

[SylvieRose]

Yes Sirs and Madams, age is secondary when comes to lolis, the appeal is the character looking like not just underage but also like a anime small kid (not a realistic one)
The issue with making age the main distinction is that you can't precisely guess the age of anime characters, its already hard enough to guess the age of real people nowdays, in anime even more so and I'm not just talking about "10000 years old lolibaba goddess" either, characters like Jotaro or Yoko Littner are way younger than they look (though Yoko's case is debatable).
I searched online but didn't even managed find the official ages for the Hollow lolis so I assume its up to interpretation anyways and thats another point which makes appearence the main factor here, the fact you can just straitgh up refuse to give the characters canon ages, letting only their look as a factor.
Age is for the most part, irrelevant

 

[rorzy]

Ok, so your example of a 16 year old character doing full frontal is not actually "perfectly acceptable/legal" even if the actress is 18 years old. Read what you wrote and what I replied. I was just pointing out the error in your logic when using that example.

Pornographic =/= movies. That's the difference. Movies are protected and made excempt under the art-exceptions ( I don't think any movie has ever been banned here ), but pornography is not ( pornography, per our laws, are considered obscene and something that should've been banned, but wans't ).

If something 'would' actually be potentionally deemed illegal, one could submit it to the Norwegian Media Authority, and they'd review and approve or deny it. Pornography will always be denied.

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in English ( on underage, not rape etc, that's a separate section ):

Assuming you can see that, let me move on to some other line of questions. This is not a continuation of the prior conversion or argument about hentai. What is Norway's law regarding underage characters being played by non-minors that don't "look underage?" Did Norway ban Euphoria? It has underage characters doing nudity and sex. Is it ok if they don't "look underage?" Not sure how they would determine that for 16-17 year old characters who could look the part with actresses much older than them. What if the character is like 14, but it's played by an 18 year old actress? Does age of the character really not matter?

That's an interessting one actually, yeah. In reality, no, underage character would definitely be illegal ( both physical and age factor in, if either is in the red-zone, i.e; < 18 ), though you can definitely argue that by the logic presented, it should be ( but when was governments concerned in logic? Lol ). Edit: But to be clear, the law exists in two parts. 1: Protect minors ( primary reasoning ), 2: Prevent creation of pedophiles ( again, archaic missunderstanding that'll probably never change ). So playing a game, with a character that 'is' 16, but looks 20, would definitely get you in hot water, as you're "clearly attracted to children", and "it's just a matter of time before you go after kids!". While 16 IS legal age of consent here, it's illegal for pornographic content ( has to be 18 at minimum ).

Though doesn't matter if the character in Euphoria is 18 or 50. Torture, rape, and similar topics are 100% illegal in Norway anyway ( even in real porn ). Norway has really strict pornlaws... I'm surprised BDSM ( non-extreme versions anyway, like bondage ) is legal ( illegal in Sweden ).


But yeah, it'd require someone to actually CHECK and PLAY euphoria to determine that she is under 16, which yeah. Unlikely to happen. Issue with LOLIs is that they DO have the apperance of < 18, and just having apperance < 18 in pornographic material is illegal, doesn't matter if real or fiction. The key word is pornographic.

 

[Iexist]

Those laws were clearly written by the same kind of idiots that think that if you're playing a Warlock in D&D, you're eventually going to try out satanic rituals IRL and tear out the hearts from virgins in an attempt to gain powers from the devil.

Like... seriously. What the FUCK is wrong with humanity if there's so many people that think stupid shit like that?

Leaving all that aside...

Yes. Venus Blood has lolis. Lolis are defined based on their looks, not their age or behavior. It's why the "loli-baba" trope is a thing and has been a thing long before Hentai started being translated in an official capacity. The CEO of Dual Tail loves lolis. It's why so many important characters in just about every Venus Blood game are lolis. Hell, it's pretty much outright stated based on the description of that one special unit he has in the game representing him.

I can't remember any genuinely child-like lolis though. As in, which behave anywhere near close to real children... but those are rare even in hentai. Some play at it, but you'd have to be deluded about how children actually act and have forgotten everything about your own childhood to think that's an accurate representation of children. Or that a genuine, dangerous pedophile would care for those depictions.

 

[Bloemkool]

Fact is someone that wants to fuck a kid in real life will go do so, no anime or childlike drawings will influence that; it was decided long before.

I'd argue giving ppl options helps prevent the absolute worst outcome too; this applies to many areas.

 

[frostyjames]

Me: Oh nice, this characters seems hot, looking forward to some cool sex scenes
Devs: Let's make her grow a penis that is 1/3 of her body length

good job, good job......

 

[frostyjames]

Pro tip for all the people arguing over loli: If you don't like it, you don't have to look at it, move on with your life, nobody cares about your indignation

 

[Golden Vampire]

GAIA kickstarter is out, for those who wanna back their new project

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[vixifairy]

gaia looks interesting actually. im interested. cant afford to back but im keeping my eye on it.

 

[rorzy]

Those laws were clearly written by the same kind of idiots that think that if you're playing a Warlock in D&D, you're eventually going to try out satanic rituals IRL and tear out the hearts from virgins in an attempt to gain powers from the devil.

Like... seriously. What the FUCK is wrong with humanity if there's so many people that think stupid shit like that?

A:k.a politians, lol, and as we all know. Once a law has been established, it will rarely, if every be changed. The few times it get changed, it's to cause restrictions, not open up interpertations... Was a guy that was arrested a few years ago because he ordered a sex-doll that was 140CM tall. Argument was: "It looks like a child, that's what attracts him!".

While a normal, intellectual would've thought: "He probably didn't want to pay an additional $2000 for the 160cm one"... But yeah. Modern society was a mistake, is all I'm saying. Too reliant onappeasing the ignorant masses.

I can't remember any genuinely child-like lolis though. As in, which behave anywhere near close to real children... but those are rare even in hentai. Some play at it, but you'd have to be deluded about how children actually act and have forgotten everything about your own childhood to think that's an accurate representation of children. Or that a genuine, dangerous pedophile would care for those depictions.

Agree. I legit do not understand, or get pedophilia. The younger the child, the less I'll understand it, I guess. Hell, I don't really get wanting to date anyone under the age of 25 anymore either ( sign of getting old perhaps? Lol ).


I do get wanting to have sex with an 18 year old, but yeah. Anything beyond sex, I don't get. I went on a date with an 22 year old, I thought I had died and went to hell and this was my punishment...

Fact is someone that wants to fuck a kid in real life will go do so, no anime or childlike drawings will influence that; it was decided long before.

I'd argue giving ppl options helps prevent the absolute worst outcome too; this applies to many areas.

Science agrees with you. Out of touch fossils and ignorant masses don't.

 

[Novakiln]

Alright so its probably been asked but does anyone know what the l / c thing does for the sex scenes like does it only affect specific ending scenes, or if it does affect most sex scenes does it barely affect them aka only changing like a few lines.

 

[Horny Police Robot]

Dam that relation system. Could some one give universal cheat or cheat engine tab or trainer for boosting submission and love stats? it's sad to admin, but i droped it because it's total nutshel each time searching adress from other over ~60k or about that amount with my Intel Core i3 2100 -_-

 

[tarrasqueSorcerer]

I've gone through chapter 1 blind so far, but then read some of this topic and learned about the ton of endings this game has. Is there some optimal way to get all or most endings while repeating the story as little as possible?

Also, are there any strategies, units or other tricks that you can recommend using?

 

[Ragsmu]

I've gone through chapter 1 blind so far, but then read some of this topic and learned about the ton of endings this game has. Is there some optimal way to get all or most endings while repeating the story as little as possible?

Also, are there any strategies, units or other tricks that you can recommend using?

you'll need several playthroughs to get all endings. what we have on the top of my head are law route with good endings (i think you can get corrupted there too but no real reason to bother since you will go for corrupted n chaos anyways) for each heroine. then there is conquest route with Corruption endings, True Odin ending. Harem ending and Fina+Menia ending/ there is also 3 sisters ending which you can get in any route.

Al of the above demands strict affection/corruption control. you'll need to calculate every answer and affection gain from it. if anything i would recommend playing just for fun first time around. and go find a walkthrough for a 2nd run.

As for unit combos - really depends on difficulty. normal steamroll-able by generally anything. anything harder is suffering.

overall good places to start with units.

1)Make a night squad. (look for crescent moon on a dark background icon on the unit properties, mostly undead and demons+some beasts) those will be really strong in night battles. (time of the day strongly affects unit strength)

2)Make a treasure/Bounty hunter squad. fill it with units that have th or bh skills (also argument them with medallions) that unit will be your source of income and weapons.

3) easiest game plan is making use of "boost" skills. stack them. like boost beast will boost every beast (paw symbol in status panel). you can either go with "feel squad with beasts that boost all beasts" or maybe build support squad around 1 or 2 strong units that can AoE whole enemy team.

all in all learn what skills do. learn what each symbol means. it would be enough - especially if on normal

edit: oh also save the keys till you get 10 - if you use 10 at once you can get units that you wont get normally until several runs into the game.

 

[Hentaicheg]

I've gone through chapter 1 blind so far, but then read some of this topic and learned about the ton of endings this game has. Is there some optimal way to get all or most endings while repeating the story as little as possible?

Also, are there any strategies, units or other tricks that you can recommend using?

Yeah, I have made a full guide in the past, should have all you need to know.

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[maishia]

can a link to digital artbook for this game be posted?

 

[Drago_dragneal]

does this game have any cheats?

 

[Memorin]

does this game have any cheats?

If I remember correctly, the code of this game is pretty easy to tweak with standard cheat engines. You can try one of those. Would recommend you to skip this and just play Hollow International with the QOL mods though.

 

[Drago_dragneal]

If I remember correctly, the code of this game is pretty easy to tweak with standard cheat engines. You can try one of those. Would recommend you to skip this and just play Hollow International with the QOL mods though.

ok thanks and I'll try that game

 

[Starcraft Nigma]

So first want to say thank you for this game. I never knew what it was called and years ago someone was playing this before a translation was done and i never saw it again. SO thank you.

Second, I am trying to use Key of Destiny but it says my fate power is not enough. I used them before without issue. I am now in battle against odin. I have googled it and came up with nothing. Would love any advice as I tried to look through walkthroughs for the answer as well. Thanks again.