What would you like me to add to the game in the next update?

  • The connection (police) mechanic. This would be a new "currency" and a new batch of upgrades.

  • More events and the possiblity for the packmakers to add some in their packs.

  • The possbility to train the skills of the girls

  • Progress the story and add story missions (mostly focused on Nicole)

  • Something else (tell me either by PM or in this thread).


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Arfido

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I'm assuming this is after a reload of a save?
First of all, thanks for the response! And yes it was after reloading a game. Secondly you're doing some awesome work with the game so don't worry about it. I'm looking forward to more updates!
 

Disgruntler

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First of all, thanks for the response! And yes it was after reloading a game. Secondly you're doing some awesome work with the game so don't worry about it. I'm looking forward to more updates!
Yeah, things are slowing down a bit because of irl stuff but I'll be wrasslin with it soon enough.
 
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pronzcowboy

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If I can make a suggestion for a feature for your mod, the ability to make 'groups' of performers that one could choose from randomly or just filter to would be great. Teens, asian, milf... etc.
 
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If I can make a suggestion for a feature for your mod, the ability to make 'groups' of performers that one could choose from randomly or just filter to would be great. Teens, asian, milf... etc.
Expanding on this idea a bit... No idea how hard this would be to implement, but being able to do theme nights might be fun. Maybe with an up-front cost, but also a payoff in the form of higher revenue, assuming you have enough well-rested girls. It would be one way to make use of the attributes in the packs.
 

Disgruntler

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If I can make a suggestion for a feature for your mod, the ability to make 'groups' of performers that one could choose from randomly or just filter to would be great. Teens, asian, milf... etc.
This would require me to ask girlpack creatures to go back, and edit every single one of their packs so that they'd be compatible with this system. Any change I make has to be set with backwards compatibility in mind, so if I add a piece of information to a girl, the system has to have a backup plan if that information is absent.

I do not see a way to do that for this specific request.

That said, I am currently working on a new system that does respond to the attributes on the packs. It appears there were some plans to tie in client preferences in the booth game to income. I'd thought about the challenges needed to impliment this but at the end of the day, I didn't feel it was a positive idea to add to the booth game.

I've found another place to use it, and once things get settled down, I'll be back hard at work on it.
 

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This would require me to ask girlpack creatures to go back, and edit every single one of their packs so that they'd be compatible with this system. Any change I make has to be set with backwards compatibility in mind, so if I add a piece of information to a girl, the system has to have a backup plan if that information is absent.

I do not see a way to do that for this specific request.

That said, I am currently working on a new system that does respond to the attributes on the packs. It appears there were some plans to tie in client preferences in the booth game to income. I'd thought about the challenges needed to impliment this but at the end of the day, I didn't feel it was a positive idea to add to the booth game.

I've found another place to use it, and once things get settled down, I'll be back hard at work on it.
I can't say for certainty, but I wonder if the Lst_Venusclub JSON editor could be adapted so that people could do that themselves if they were so inclined. It lets you easily change what's listed as the girls' height, bust size, eye color, hair color, skin color, body type and age. If the player uses it to fill those categories in, then the game could sort them perhaps?
 

Disgruntler

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I can't say for certainty, but I wonder if the Lst_Venusclub JSON editor could be adapted so that people could do that themselves if they were so inclined. It lets you easily change what's listed as the girls' height, bust size, eye color, hair color, skin color, body type and age. If the player uses it to fill those categories in, then the game could sort them perhaps?
I can tell you for a fact it can use those as fields for a sort, as a filter, as eligibility, etc. The issue comes down with how I would assign categories based on what's there, and the effects it would have on the booth game.

As it stands, you're already planning your day based on energy levels, openness, what specialized booths you have access to, and now, traits. I'm not entirely sure there's cognitive space for adding another layer on top of that, and I'm not entirely sure that adding in something like 'Oh, great, now I need to grab a bunch of teens' or whatever is really adding in a sort of depth that is rewarding.

In the booth game, I'm also convinced that adding another decision to where to send girls beyond what's there might be adding cognitive load without cognitive reward.

A third concern is that I don't want to punish players for having preferences. If a player happens to just want to fuck about with MILFs in booths, cause that's their jam, then it'd feel like a mechanic that punished them for having a preference. I feel that's against the spirit of customizability the game is built around.

However, I also don't like traits to go unused. Right now, those traits are fluff, as is the 'specialty' trait, and I have ideas in mind to change that. But I think the answer here is not to add onto the booth or planning layers. There's other avenues to explore and I'm confident that exploring them will pay off in the long term.
 

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I can tell you for a fact it can use those as fields for a sort, as a filter, as eligibility, etc. The issue comes down with how I would assign categories based on what's there, and the effects it would have on the booth game.

As it stands, you're already planning your day based on energy levels, openness, what specialized booths you have access to, and now, traits. I'm not entirely sure there's cognitive space for adding another layer on top of that, and I'm not entirely sure that adding in something like 'Oh, great, now I need to grab a bunch of teens' or whatever is really adding in a sort of depth that is rewarding.

In the booth game, I'm also convinced that adding another decision to where to send girls beyond what's there might be adding cognitive load without cognitive reward.

A third concern is that I don't want to punish players for having preferences. If a player happens to just want to fuck about with MILFs in booths, cause that's their jam, then it'd feel like a mechanic that punished them for having a preference. I feel that's against the spirit of customizability the game is built around.

However, I also don't like traits to go unused. Right now, those traits are fluff, as is the 'specialty' trait, and I have ideas in mind to change that. But I think the answer here is not to add onto the booth or planning layers. There's other avenues to explore and I'm confident that exploring them will pay off in the long term.
Makes sense to me. I only hire a fairly small number of girls at any given time anyways, so its not something that I'd use.
 

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I had an idea for some probably-super-annoying-to-implement traits: traits that give a mild benefits to everyone working with them in a night. So for example, there could be some that reduce energy loss for everyone, improve skill/popularity gain, or some could draw in more mafia or connections. I especially like the idea of stacking bonuses which could make getting specific traits for everyone a more rewarding late game resource sink.

But for some more reasonable suggestions, I think Reputation needs some love. I think there's some design space for it being the de facto resource for brief, but powerful benefits. Like being able to spend 20+ reputation for 1-night bonuses like forcing every customer the next night to be a mafia or connection, giving girls a temporary "all stats up" (reduced energy use, better skill, money, and influence gains, etc.), and reducing the cost and scaling of the negotiator. And with those you could justify adding some max reputation upgrades, but being over 100 rep wouldn't necessarily have to improve the quality of customers.
 

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I have resolved the save issue that has been bothering me trying to get v9.0.h to function, and so I am pleased to say that I am ironing out the kinks on this new feature and I will soon have more information on what it does and its intended purpose.

It's a Rep dump.
 

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Who are the Brokers? And what will they do to help the Venus's Club?
It's where you send the girls to be broken? Just kidding. But I did ask Tobe once about adding some sort of BDSM option to send a girl to if they "act up" with a smart mouth... ala Bada Bing club from the Sapranos. Something Silvio would have taken care of in the back room. Maybe a JSON flag set to true for BDSM, and videos exist in the folder. A button pops up in the booth for some "corrective action" cause the girl is bad mouthing the client. Maybe a perk you buy in the Mafia store.
 

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It's where you send the girls to be broken? Just kidding. But I did ask Tobe once about adding some sort of BDSM option to send a girl to if they "act up" with a smart mouth... ala Bada Bing club from the Sapranos. Something Silvio would have taken care of in the back room. Maybe a JSON flag set to true for BDSM, and videos exist in the folder. A button pops up in the booth for some "corrective action" cause the girl is bad mouthing the client. Maybe a perk you buy in the Mafia store.
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Excellent news on v9.

I've finally got the underlying systems all working and humming nicely. Just going to do a playthrough soon of the new stuff, and check game balance and functionality over time.

I tried to find a work around for the issue where girl portraits would get trapped under the booths when specific girls with specific videos are played. Unfortunately this work around breaks the functionality of the booth game and therefore I cannot action it. All I can advise at this time is that girlpacks that have this issue get reported to their creator because cause is the codec used to encode the video not playing well with Unity's codecs. I do not have a solution for this.
 
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So far after a quick test I like the Broker mechanic. It gives a needed dump for Reputation and gives nice rewards!

One interesting thing I've found: it seems like girls who are taking a class are not available for the Broker, right? BUT you can first send them to the Broker and then let them take a class. Don't know if that's intended, I find it funny.

And for whatever reason, the small portrait of the Melanie Rios GP is a white square now, but that's a quick fix.
 

Disgruntler

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One interesting thing I've found: it seems like girls who are taking a class are not available for the Broker, right? BUT you can first send them to the Broker and then let them take a class. Don't know if that's intended, I find it funny.
Yeah, though don't get too attached to this. The current interface for classes is a placeholder and it's going to be expanded.
 
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