VN Ren'Py Where the Heart Is [S1 v2024-07-10 BETA] [CheekyGimp]

[UncleFredo]

No. If they don't tell, it's hiding. If Katie asks and they lie, it's a lie.

There's an old saying liars use to say: "I don't lie, I just hide some details"

Hiding and lying sometimes have the same effect.

We have no background on the level of conversations between them about with whom they've been sexually intimate. Katey was after all a virgin. There is no basis in the their revealed relationships to suggest that they compare notes about who they've fucked. Hell there is no scene anywhere in the game where any of these girls compare notes about any man. Without a foundation that the girls would share such details about other men, there is no reason to expect they'd do so about the MC.

NOT HIDING...

 

[BeingADikDik]

We have no background on the level of conversations between them about with whom they've been sexually intimate. Katey was after all a virgin. There is no basis in the their revealed relationships to suggest that they compare notes about who they've fucked. Hell there is no scene anywhere in the game where any of these girls compare notes about any man. Without a foundation that the girls would share such details about other men, there is no reason to expect they'd do so about the MC.

NOT HIDING...

Depends on which path MC takes. If MC tells Lily he wants her as his girlfriend, then MC (and Lily) hide that from Katie even after she declares her love for MC / MC reciprocates. Similar for Debbie. In this case, Debbie and Lily are hiding the nature of their relationships with MC from Katie, which is dishonest. However, after the foursome, this is somewhat understandable in that they hope to convince Katie to enter into a poly-amorous relationship. Does this mean they are bad people? Not really, IMHO.

 

[Ariostebaldo]

We have no background on the level of conversations between them about with whom they've been sexually intimate. Katey was after all a virgin. There is no basis in the their revealed relationships to suggest that they compare notes about who they've fucked. Hell there is no scene anywhere in the game where any of these girls compare notes about any man. Without a foundation that the girls would share such details about other men, there is no reason to expect they'd do so about the MC.

NOT HIDING...

Yeah, the information that you are fucking the guy who lives with your friend and for whom you know she has a crush is not at all relevant. They just forgot to mention it, it's not like they were hiding... They weren't hiding, not at all...

 

[Dragon59]

No. If they don't tell, it's hiding. If Katie asks and they lie, it's a lie.

There's a recent scene in Sunshine Love where S is asked "Have you seen [a person]?"
Since she promised not to give away the person's location, she honestly replied, "I can't say that I have."

 

[Ariostebaldo]

There's a recent scene in Sunshine Love where S is asked "Have you seen [a person]?"
Since she promised not to give away the person's location, she honestly replied, "I can't say that I have."

That's smart I guess, I'll remember that one. But the other person would still feel deceived.

 

[Dan02]

During the beach house scene if you allow debbie to express her love for lily and after that when Mc choose to stay there see their kissing they will stop and from where starts group sex route but if we avoid it girls we say you are no fun something like that and after time skip mc has a chance to choose lily and deby solo and also katie i didnt played lily route so i dont know where and how dialogue is but choosing Debbie solo it came up with interesting dialogue and we came to know other side of her for Mc that is sweet and grotto cave private talk behind beach house is rather amazing and after that event ends with sealing the deal for date with debbie.. In start katie was emotionally outburst with mc but lily was understanding thats nice of her and i will continue to play more route and get the save done but for me solo route with any of girl would be main saves here .

 

[Dirty_Dan]

Just downloaded this game over the weekend. Man, this has one of the best stories I've ever played. Really love the dynamics of the characters and I'm impressed how all of these characters are being handled.

Gotta say though, I'm on Chapter 18 and I'm over here looking like this with these girls:

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Game got me feeling bad playing with so many hearts and I'm just waiting for the big come down.

 

[Sherlock Osman]

When will the 21st episode come? friends

 

[Construct]

When will the 21st episode come? friends

Episode 20 is barely a month old, so don‘t expect anything in the near future. I don‘t know the usual development times though. So I can‘t make an estimate

 

[MrFriendly]

When will the 21st episode come? friends

Episode 20 is barely a month old, so don‘t expect anything in the near future. I don‘t know the usual development times though. So I can‘t make an estimate

~3 to 4 months. As we are getting closer to the end I expect development time to get longer.

 

[Regardie]

Is masturbating wrong though?

In front of your mom? YES!

But if you don't masturbate in front of your mom, how is she going to see how big her "little" boy has gotten, and offer to help relieve the tension?

 

[Benares]

~3 to 4 months. As we are getting closer to the end I expect development time to get longer.

True and false, Ace stated sevaral times that Cheeky intention is to realease shorter episodes on a bi-monthly basis. Dunno if they will be able to achieve that.

Anyway there will be plenty quesions about the release, we'll see.

 

[y0rthan]

Well, the MC is enabling this behavior and dialogue from the early game implies that this hasn‘t happened before the MC came into their lives. Unless Debbie and Lily have done this before and they both are very convincing liars towards the MC and Katie. Also just shows how one guy can easily uproot their „Bloodsisterhood“

But that could also mean: The third gold digger is 2 girls in a trenchcoat!

Yeah, I'm super-paranoid as to who the third gold-digger is... I was suspecting Lily at one point because of a convo snippet we had, and I haven't ruled her out, but I think that's what the author wants me to think.

Also, I'm not far into Chapter 20, but I feel the "spinning plates of dating literally everyone in the game" is about to come crashing down over my head, and it probably serves me right.

 

[Dragon59]

But if you don't masturbate in front of your mom, how is she going to see how big her "little" boy has gotten, and offer to help relieve the tension?

If Porn and AVNs have taught us anything, that will definitely happen.

 

[WhiteyG]

Yeah, I'm super-paranoid as to who the third gold-digger is... I was suspecting Lily at one point because of a convo snippet we had, and I haven't ruled her out, but I think that's what the author wants me to think.

Also, I'm not far into Chapter 20, but I feel the "spinning plates of dating literally everyone in the game" is about to come crashing down over my head, and it probably serves me right.

Lily is to young to be the third gold digger. The MC's father was cheating on Elaine for a long time, so for Lily to be the other women is not really possible. You're right about the authors wanting you to suspect everyone though.

Pursuing everyone is getting more dangerous every episode, but when it comes crashing down that's when you use the start at any episode feature. Might as well have as much fun and get as much information as possible until it all goes up in flames.

 

[voyeurkind]

Lily is to young to be the third gold digger. The MC's father was cheating on Elaine for a long time, so for Lily to be the other women is not really possible. You're right about the authors wanting you to suspect everyone though.

Just because he was cheating on Elaine for years doesn't mean he was cheating on her with only one woman. For all we know, Donald could have had fling after fling.

The only ones I'm ruling out are Katie and Jenna. I think all the others are a possibility.

 

[WhiteyG]

Just because he was cheating on Elaine for years doesn't mean he was cheating on her with only one woman. For all we know, Donald could have had fling after fling.

The only ones I'm ruling out are Katie and Jenna. I think all the others are a possibility.

Yeah it's possible he had a lot of flings. It's possible every time you take a step in the beach house you are walking through the residue of his semen. Not fucking likely but possible.

That wasn't really the point though it had to do with the gold digger. I doubt Donald is leaving a third of his money to a fling, and I HIGHLY doubt he had a fling with Lily. You can suspect whoever you'd like but I'm fairly certain it is unnecessary and unwarranted. I'm not worried about Lily, Debbie, Katie or Jenna. Not really worried about Wanda at this point either.

 

[Journey95]

Lily is to young to be the third gold digger. The MC's father was cheating on Elaine for a long time, so for Lily to be the other women is not really possible. You're right about the authors wanting you to suspect everyone though.

Pursuing everyone is getting more dangerous every episode, but when it comes crashing down that's when you use the start at any episode feature. Might as well have as much fun and get as much information as possible until it all goes up in flames.

Agreed this game wouldn't be much fun if you try to be faithful and don't pursue everyone. It will be interesting to see the consequences

 

[MrFriendly]

Agreed this game wouldn't be much fun if you try to be faithful and don't pursue everyone. It will be interesting to see the consequences

I disagree, I play faithfully two routes - Monica and Katie. I then quick start each update with every relationship and see what happens. But I never save that playthrough, it's not canon for me.

 

[Journey95]

I disagree, I play faithfully two routes - Monica and Katie. I then quick start each update with every relationship and see what happens. But I never save that playthrough, it's not canon for me.

To each their own. While I like Katie and Jenna (Monica is just ok) I'm not invested enough in their characters to care about playing faithfully. Honestly with the amount of options this game seems to be made to be played as a cheater who pursues everyone. The MC himself has fun reactions to that and it adds some tension too lol (like when one of the girls almost discovers the truth)