MrFriendly

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I just go back and enjoy billions, and billions of options.

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Honestly the quickstart option kills the suspense when making a decision in this game. I don't have to fear making a mistake because I can just restart the chapter. It's the ultimate rollback ability, not only can I roll back one decision I can roll back all decisions chapter by chapter.
 

acewinz

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Hey, I missed this option. I was able to select Lily on her own, but when I suggested Katie as well, she broke up with the MC. She seemed into ishareing the MC during the beach house scene a few updates ago, so I am not sure what stats I am missing. Not enough Lily points?
I think it's the opposite. I.e., too many Lily points. That option only appears if MC is on the "Romancing (Casual Sex)" path with Lily. If MC is on the "Romancing (Girlfriend)" path, MC is forced to choose between Lily and Katie.
There was actually a bug that snuck through that prevented a particularly popular option with Lily (and the crew) last EP from coming up for a lot of folks (it should be an option for casual or gf). I went into detail in the post linked below, but it is already fixed on our patreon and next EP we will probably end up asking a question at the start to fix it for people who didn't realize it should have been an option.

https://f95zone.to/threads/where-the-heart-is-ep-22-cheekygimp.10549/page-1357#post-7976334
 

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Still got a bunch of pages to read, but I couldn't resist posting my theory on who's the 'gold-digger etc. I'm pretty sure that it's not correct, so feel free to shoot me down in flam ... err, sorry about that, having flashbacks.
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I'm crouching down with my hands protecting my head, waiting for the sky to fall down.
 

felicemastronzo

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Still got a bunch of pages to read, but I couldn't resist posting my theory on who's the 'gold-digger etc. I'm pretty sure that it's not correct, so feel free to shoot me down in flam ... err, sorry about that, having flashbacks.
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Adding Zarah only complicates the theory, if Bella and Jolina have any romance or business, that's enough already.

Elaine eventually went to Jolina's, so if it weren't for the suspicions we have about her, Bella's tale would be pretty solid at this point, except that precisely, "who trusts Bella?" , who could very well have made Elaine's cell phone disappear to prevent her from communicating with MC.
 

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acewinz Hello. About the Bug I have reported: It is definitely caused by the WT Mod by Koga3 and has nothing todo with something messed up in the Vanilla Scripts - as you had already checked.

I just renamed the Original unmodded "game" Folder, copied the modded Save Files over and voila:

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Oh and whoever wrote the E22 Ending where
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felicemastronzo

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I think I've seen almost all the content of the chapter (I think I'm just missing some dialogue related to particular situations) so I can give my unsolicited judgment.

I'll start with the things I didn't like, which are highly subjective:
- the chapter seemed short to me, shorter than the previous one to say, but I think the main reason is that I found it more a "technical" chapter than a narrative one, with many important junctures highlighted and several service explanations.
- i have a problem with the episodic narrative, especially on this medium. two chapters ago we found out that Elaine was at Jolina's cafe, two chapters later we know nothing more about it. i know we're really talking about a few days in game time, but to me apnea can last for a couple of minutes not a couple of months

now the things I liked:
-Lily, her segment is great (apart from a clarification that I'll ask later), the fact that it opens to a possible polyamorous relationship with Debbie a surprise now unexpected, we'll see how it goes on
- I also really liked the segment with Natasha, it's right that revenge porn is punished in some way, here too a lot of curiosity, at the end Katie and the girls already know, so I don't think there will be terrible consequences as long as we don't go to blackmail, but to be an interesting subplot.
- the real bombshell of the chapter however remains the glimpse of a Jenna sharing MC with Katie, we are on the side of a possiiblity in a million, but at least there is one!!!!!! really unexpected
- I also really liked the segment with Zarah, in general I think it's with the secondary characters that this game really gives its best, Zarah is a very secondary character and by far the least attractive, except for special kinks, but in my opinion he is divinely written, he really has a soul, really good.

now the things that i am not clear about:
-Lily complains that we neglected her, now it doesn't seem to me that there were occasions when I could call her and I didn't, am I forgetting something? because if it was the developers who forced me to neglect her I'm starting to get nervous... let's not play games
- the two girls at the beach house: how much of a trap are they going to be? in the end I decided to host them even if not related to them. Jolina has basically helped MC twice, I can't turn my back on her for suspicions, even Bella has theoretically only helped MC, with her the suspicions are beyond the wooden horse left at the gates of a city.., but you can't leave her on the street.... I hope I don't regret it.
- the final reading of the contract with the fund will be in a couple of weeks, which could correspond to 3-4 chapters, in my opinion there is a real risk that it will be practically the closing of the game... what do you think?
 

MrFriendly

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- the final reading of the contract with the fund will be in a couple of weeks, which could correspond to 3-4 chapters, in my opinion there is a real risk that it will be practically the closing of the game... what do you think?
This has always been a concern for me. I hope that the game won't end with the final will reading, a quick confrontation/conversation, and then roll credits. I would like to see the game have a full update or two of aftermath, the shit hitting the proverbial fan as he now needs to deal with all of his playing around, the scheming of others, his scheming, and whatever decision he ended up making. To me the story needs that extra time for the MC to deal with everything and everyone. Will have to wait and see what happens.
 

acewinz

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This has always been a concern for me. I hope that the game won't end with the final will reading, a quick confrontation/conversation, and then roll credits. I would like to see the game have a full update or two of aftermath, the shit hitting the proverbial fan as he now needs to deal with all of his playing around, the scheming of others, his scheming, and whatever decision he ended up making. To me the story needs that extra time for the MC to deal with everything and everyone. Will have to wait and see what happens.
No need to worry about that. The will reading will not be the end of the game. I figure we'll have to have at least one or two regular updates for the MC to properly react to how things hash out there. And then the epilogues for all the characters and the mc of course.
 

Ghostload

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Which episode will Dizzy be revealed in?

If the reading is in two weeks ("game time") then a time jump would probably make sense.

I honestly can't see this stretching out for 14 more episodes unless there's more drama to uncover.
 

t3alqdansam

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Which episode will Dizzy be revealed in?

If the reading is in two weeks ("game time") then a time jump would probably make sense.

I honestly can't see this stretching out for 14 more episodes unless there's more drama to uncover.
Shhh, Dad's not dead. This was all a ruse to try and avoid the IRS and RICO charges. There will be at least 2 updates of courtroom drama and then the required Women's prison scenes as well as Dad being introduced to his cellmate (emphasis on mate).
 

Avaron1974

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Which episode will Dizzy be revealed in?

If the reading is in two weeks ("game time") then a time jump would probably make sense.

I honestly can't see this stretching out for 14 more episodes unless there's more drama to uncover.
Last time they talked episodes there were around 25 planned with maybe more depending on what needs wrapping up.

There certainly isn't 14 more to go.
 

ename144

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As soon as you tell the lawyer you are giving the house to Elaine, it's hers. There is no changing that, it's in black and white and legally binding.
The decision may be set in stone, but that doesn't mean Elaine actually knows about it yet. The paperwork went to Greg rather than Elaine, and paperwork is rarely noted for its expediency. Admittedly, we could have tried harder to contact her ourselves despite her lack of cell phone, but <something something millennials>. :p
 

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I think I've seen almost all the content of the chapter (I think I'm just missing some dialogue related to particular situations) so I can give my unsolicited judgment.

I'll start with the things I didn't like, which are highly subjective:
- the chapter seemed short to me, shorter than the previous one to say, but I think the main reason is that I found it more a "technical" chapter than a narrative one, with many important junctures highlighted and several service explanations.
- i have a problem with the episodic narrative, especially on this medium. two chapters ago we found out that Elaine was at Jolina's cafe, two chapters later we know nothing more about it.
i know we're really talking about a few days in game time, but to me apnea can last for a couple of minutes not a couple of months

now the things I liked:
-Lily, her segment is great (apart from a clarification that I'll ask later), the fact that it opens to a possible polyamorous relationship with Debbie a surprise now unexpected, we'll see how it goes on
- I also really liked the segment with Natasha, it's right that revenge porn is punished in some way, here too a lot of curiosity, at the end Katie and the girls already know, so I don't think there will be terrible consequences as long as we don't go to blackmail, but to be an interesting subplot.
- the real bombshell of the chapter however remains the glimpse of a Jenna sharing MC with Katie, we are on the side of a possiiblity in a million, but at least there is one!!!!!! really unexpected
- I also really liked the segment with Zarah, in general I think it's with the secondary characters that this game really gives its best, Zarah is a very secondary character and by far the least attractive, except for special kinks, but in my opinion he is divinely written, he really has a soul, really good.

now the things that i am not clear about:
-Lily complains that we neglected her, now it doesn't seem to me that there were occasions when I could call her and I didn't, am I forgetting something? because if it was the developers who forced me to neglect her I'm starting to get nervous... let's not play games
- the two girls at the beach house: how much of a trap are they going to be? in the end I decided to host them even if not related to them. Jolina has basically helped MC twice, I can't turn my back on her for suspicions, even Bella has theoretically only helped MC, with her the suspicions are beyond the wooden horse left at the gates of a city.., but you can't leave her on the street.... I hope I don't regret it.
- the final reading of the contract with the fund will be in a couple of weeks, which could correspond to 3-4 chapters, in my opinion there is a real risk that it will be practically the closing of the game... what do you think?
Not sure, we can say it a fact Elaine was at Jo's café at this time, since the pic was distorted and Elaine does deny she was there. Was it faked? Sure Jolina says that is her but Is she working with Bella?
 

felicemastronzo

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Not sure, we can say it a fact Elaine was at Jo's café at this time, since the pic was distorted and Elaine does deny she was there. Was it faked? Sure Jolina says that is her but Is she working with Bella?
too complicated. we don't know if Elaine went there for the email, but that she has been there before is extremely likely, on two occasions she refuses to go there with MC.

the fact that Elaine denies it, then what would be the value of that? there are many lies in the story.
 
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too complicated. we don't know if Elaine went there for the email, but that she has been there before is extremely likely, on two occasions she refuses to go there with MC.

the fact that Elaine denies it, then what would be the value of that? there are many lies in the story.
Facts:
Jo has been to Elaine's recently after Jenna second visit to coffee shop because laptop pic proves it.
The coffee shop is out of her way, there is a closer shop to her house. Question was asked while giving Elaine a ride.
Bella and Jo are or were in a relationship together fact reviled ep 22 beach house Bella and Jo both use personalized pet names for each other.
Jo provided the pic. Jo is a computer hacker fact she reviled to Mc.
Mc remembers father saying to Elaine he would give her the house. Its all she wanted Elaine has her own money which put the groceries on the table.
Jo shock when Mc showed Elaine's pic to her was her seeing Bella in the pic "whos the other girl" because she knew it was Bella

This works because Donald has them pitted Elaine and Bella against each other. with their conditions I bet.

I'm not convinced Elaine is in love with Mc but I believe she does care for him truly more as mom than a Li, not a fact but we can be persuaded by the Game pic of Elaine wearing Mc's school colors.

outside of kicking Mc out of the house, and not wanting to visit jo's coffee shop where has Elaine rejected or hurt Mc?
don't say throwing away cloths. after guard shack incidence we cant prove That Elaine was going to through them out

it was Bella that said she did that early. Elaine would have had someone else do it.

Bella: I'm sorry, I didn't want to cause trouble. I have some of your stuff here. I noticed that Elaine had put it in the trash, "I felt bad for you, so I wanted to drop it off here, rather than let Elaine dump it."

Mc: She dumped it already? I was going to collect it tomorrow. What a fucking bitch eh bad thing to do! I cannot believe she'd do that!"

Elaine not looking like the bad one to me.
 

felicemastronzo

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Facts:
Jo has been to Elaine's recently after Jenna second visit to coffee shop because laptop pic proves it.
The coffee shop is out of her way, there is a closer shop to her house. Question was asked while giving Elaine a ride.
Bella and Jo are or were in a relationship together fact reviled ep 22 beach house Bella and Jo both use personalized pet names for each other.
Jo provided the pic. Jo is a computer hacker fact she reviled to Mc.
Mc remembers father saying to Elaine he would give her the house. Its all she wanted Elaine has her own money which put the groceries on the table.
Jo shock when Mc showed Elaine's pic to her was her seeing Bella in the pic "whos the other girl" because she knew it was Bella

This works because Donald has them pitted Elaine and Bella against each other. with their conditions I bet.

I'm not convinced Elaine is in love with Mc but I believe she does care for him truly more as mom than a Li, not a fact but we can be persuaded by the Game pic of Elaine wearing Mc's school colors.

outside of kicking Mc out of the house, and not wanting to visit jo's coffee shop where has Elaine rejected or hurt Mc?
don't say throwing away cloths. after guard shack incidence we cant prove That Elaine was going to through them out

it was Bella that said she did that early. Elaine would have had someone else do it.

Bella: I'm sorry, I didn't want to cause trouble. I have some of your stuff here. I noticed that Elaine had put it in the trash, "I felt bad for you, so I wanted to drop it off here, rather than let Elaine dump it."

Mc: She dumped it already? I was going to collect it tomorrow. What a fucking bitch eh bad thing to do! I cannot believe she'd do that!"

Elaine not looking like the bad one to me.
I'm sorry, but I don't see many facts among your respectable theories.

Jo is not a hacker, she might be, but the only fact is that she has a minimum of computer mastery (after all she runs an internet cafe, Jenna is a hacker and has proven it). but then that would also be quite irrelevant to edit a movie you don't have to be a hacker

the picture of Jolina in the kitchen of Donald's house could mean anything and nothing, she could be the second golddigger, she could be Bella's lover or something else

while the fact that Elaine has twice wanted to avoid meeting Jolina in front of MC is certainly a fact, if she didn't already know her why would she want to avoid her?

I didn't focus on Elaine's "evilness" (even if in the last chapter the developers, through Bella's mouth, have disassembled one of my main arguments in her defense, the email would not have been sent to all her contacts, but first to Monica and only after to the others... at least according to Bella's belief) but simply on the fact that she has actually been to Jolina's cafe, and to do what is not known

if Jolina had simply wanted to direct MC's suspicions on Elaine, she would have done it much sooner by recognizing her in the first picture he showed her, in the end MC would have had no difficulty in believing her

coming back to Elaine, to ask an "almost stranger", towards whom she had some faults to be forgiven and not the contrary, to give her a house (which by chance is somehow linked to her inheritance and which by chance a few days later would have ended up in MC's hands) without a real reason seems to me almost as suspicious as any of Bella's ramblings
 
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