kktcross

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Kinda hoping that means the end is near and they're coding an entirely new one.
idk if you checked his patreon but Gallery($15+ patrons) or Episode 1-21 Walkthrough ($15+ patrons) :KEK: also rip patrons who support him on lower tier for god know how long might be years (4,5y since development started) and they dont even get gallery :HideThePain: ofc this might be just case of him not updating description and there is no gallery any more wt is also 2 patches old
 

LunaloveT

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Unfortunately, I find the young guy + milf thing disgusting so dating Monica isn't an option for me. I'll try out the last patreon version, thanks!
How can a milf be disgusting? Are you sure you're okay?
you prefer little girls more? that's disgusting...
Ah, you don't have the strength for a real experienced woman. I get it. That's why you play games like that, right?)
I get it. No more questions.You're not a man at all. Too bad. (
 

s4nderr

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How can a milf be disgusting? Are you sure you're okay?
you prefer little girls more? that's disgusting...
Ah, you don't have the strength for a real experienced woman. I get it. That's why you play games like that, right?)
I get it. No more questions.You're not a man at all. Too bad. (
Heh, I know you're joking but I prefer women around my age ± a few years. I can't stand milfs (unless the MC is also around the same age) or even girls around 18 unless the MC is around that age. I just find big age differences disgusting.
 

JaxMan

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It is weird that you use the word disgusting when describing age differences. Disgust meaning to effect with loathing or nausea. That would be pretty harsh to feel that way about couples with an age difference. Hopefully, you don't have any friends with older or younger partners.

Or do you mean it offends your moral sensibilities or good taste or sickens you?

Why not just say you are not attracted to older or younger women than yourself?
 

s4nderr

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It is weird that you use the word disgusting when describing age differences. Disgust meaning to effect with loathing or nausea. That would be pretty harsh to feel that way about couples with an age difference. Hopefully, you don't have any friends with older or younger partners.

Or do you mean it offends your moral sensibilities or good taste or sickens you?

Why not just say you are not attracted to older or younger women than yourself?
Yes, it sickens me. That's literally the same meaning as disgusts me. Me and all my friends and acquaintances have partners around their age, but I don't care what other people do since people have different tastes. You do whatever you want in your relationships or playthroughs but I ain't touching that stuff.
 

darthpham

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Yes, it sickens me. That's literally the same meaning as disgusts me. Me and all my friends and acquaintances have partners around their age, but I don't care what other people do since people have different tastes. You do whatever you want in your relationships or playthroughs but I ain't touching that stuff.
Are we still talking about the game?! Yes, in this game, I rejected Monica too but because she was gross. But in some other games, the MILFs are amazing (e.g No More Secrets, Big Brother, Cure My Addiction, etc) so I can't see you passing on all MILFs
 

DaimonFey

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I rejected Monica too but because she was gross.
I don't think that Monica is gross and quite frankly I don't understand why anybody would think so. So I wonder why she is gross to you. Is it how she looks or how she behaves? Btw I also think that Jeane from No More Secrets is awesome. Teachers are also great.
 
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s4nderr

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Are we still talking about the game?! Yes, in this game, I rejected Monica too but because she was gross. But in some other games, the MILFs are amazing (e.g No More Secrets, Big Brother, Cure My Addiction, etc) so I can't see you passing on all MILFs
I only go for the milfs when the MC is the same age as the milf, not in his early 20's. But I agree, even if the MC was 40 in this game, I wouldn't go for Monica since she looks very unattractive. Also anything related to incest is a quick nope from me. Just personal preferences.
 

Ilhares

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Monica's face design is terrible. It feels like they went for "slightly older", but designed a super old looking model. Just my personal opinion. I love her personality in the game BTW
She does aeem mostly rather motherly, but I find her physically repellent. I go out of my way to be sure that the Monica path never activates.
 
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I don't think that Monica is gross and quite frankly I don't understand why anybody would think so. So I wonder why she is gross to you. Is it how she looks or how she behaves? Btw I also think that Jeane from No More Secrets is awesome. Teachers are also great.
I'll also chime in that her attitude was totally off-putting to me.

Could be my fault forgetting too invested in a porn game (but i doubt this thread is gonna call me on this) but your father just died, you need a place to stay, and she comes on so heavily that it becomes creepy. It makes her seem like a skeezy landlord. If you say that you'll just stay a few days then find a place of your own, she basically has a break down and starts guilting you hard core and feeling you up, and she probably smells like booze and it's just... ugh... please take a step back.

Same with Zahra, maybe it's just because I'm not into MILFs, but they just start relentlessly groping and undressing and sexualizing their "nephew" or their friend's "nephew" before they can even unpack.

These scenes probably play out way better if you are into the characters, but if you're not immediately down to fuck, you have to fight off their sexual harassment/guilt trip combo nonstop, and it totally soured me to them. I mean, at one point she literally grabs your cock or strips you naked against your express verbal wishes and I'm like jesus! This is actually assault!
 

Machete

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Is it how she looks or how she behaves?
I'll give you a honest answer. Both.

Now, by a design point of view i really appreciate the Monica character. In way too many game the 'middle age woman', which has much more to do with a cougar then with the MILF, is depicted like a woman in her late 20's with insanely big breast as if the older a woman gets the bigger and firmer her boobs become. Sorry to say it's really not how it works. Then you have the, let's say third age women who have the body of a 30old model and a slightly wrinkled face. Again, not how biology works :D

Monica instead most definately looks her age and this is a remarkable move by the Devs. She suffers from macromastia too but apart from that, she looks like a woman closer to 50's then to 40's. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it, there are women in their fourties that look very good still looking their age. Lucky for me, my mate in real life is one of those. But Monica is not. She's absolutely ugly.

She is by no means fat, yet she looks like she weights like a whale. She has bad teeth and she smile all the time (good for her). She has Karen hair that suits her zero. She has bad looking feet. In general there isn't a single spot on her i find attractive.

My taste i guess.

But if a character looks ugly in a game, you just stay away from her route, right? Indeed. But not here. Monica always finds a way to be absolutely improper, needy and grossly plastered on the MC. Feeling like a son to her my ass. She's flapping her exagerate boobs out at every occasion, she never refrain from kissing MC and she look like she has fool breath. She's always touchy, always in poses that show of her unpleasant body.

I mean, take Zarah. She flirts all the time and she's not shy showing her body too, but she has some dignity in the way she does it and when it's no it's no. Monica has no bounds. She's so annoyingly needy.

So... That's how i feel about the character. Of course a lot of people like her and enjoy her a lot. To me she's most definately gross on every level.
 

DaimonFey

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I'll give you a honest answer. Both.

Now, by a design point of view i really appreciate the Monica character. In way too many game the 'middle age woman', which has much more to do with a cougar then with the MILF, is depicted like a woman in her late 20's with insanely big breast as if the older a woman gets the bigger and firmer her boobs become. Sorry to say it's really not how it works. Then you have the, let's say third age women who have the body of a 30old model and a slightly wrinkled face. Again, not how biology works :D

Monica instead most definately looks her age and this is a remarkable move by the Devs. She suffers from macromastia too but apart from that, she looks like a woman closer to 50's then to 40's. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it, there are women in their fourties that look very good still looking their age. Lucky for me, my mate in real life is one of those. But Monica is not. She's absolutely ugly.

She is by no means fat, yet she looks like she weights like a whale. She has bad teeth and she smile all the time (good for her). She has Karen hair that suits her zero. She has bad looking feet. In general there isn't a single spot on her i find attractive.

My taste i guess.

But if a character looks ugly in a game, you just stay away from her route, right? Indeed. But not here. Monica always finds a way to be absolutely improper, needy and grossly plastered on the MC. Feeling like a son to her my ass. She's flapping her exagerate boobs out at every occasion, she never refrain from kissing MC and she look like she has fool breath. She's always touchy, always in poses that show of her unpleasant body.

I mean, take Zarah. She flirts all the time and she's not shy showing her body too, but she has some dignity in the way she does it and when it's no it's no. Monica has no bounds. She's so annoyingly needy.

So... That's how i feel about the character. Of course a lot of people like her and enjoy her a lot. To me she's most definately gross on every level.
Monica is indead rather clingy but I atribute it to being lonely and that they haven't seen each other in a long time. Katie inherited said clinginess. Hmm, now that I think of it perhaps Monica is so needy because she feels like teenager in love and love do strange things with people?
Macromastia is something that about one third of LIs in VNs have including Jenna and Jolina. I also don't think that Monica looks particulary bad aside from few early episodes but Jenna was even worse.
Bad looking feet? Quite frankly I don't remember her having bad feet but it's possible because I don't remember them and I do have foot fetish.

Zarah is quite different from Monica and is far more experienced also her husbands death is still rather fresh thing for her. Although she does not show too much too often just about every meeting with her = sex.
 
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Machete

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Monica is indead rather clingy but I atribute it to being lonely and that they haven't seen each other in a long time.
Yes, indeed. She is not a poorly written character. Quite the opposite. She most definately works. And she's also a good person. That's why in my immersive approach to my route i always sent MC on dates with her even if they are optional and i have to endure her approaches through it. She actually is a needy woman and she has her reasons, sure. And as a character she behaves accordingly. Nothing to complaing with the writers.
 
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