VN Ren'Py Completed Wicked Choices: Book One [Remastered v1.0.1] [ASLPro3D]

[ASLPro3D]

I wasn't aware that I was missed. Lol Eh, just dealing with life and its foibles, but when I think about all the stuff that Jack's been going through- my problems don’t amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world.

Everyone has their own thresholds and crosses in which to bear... tis not a competition, nor does one foibles overshadows another's... true, I've had my fill of crap this year... and hope that next year is less of a shitfest, hell ride into a decent of medical madness for ALL of us and not just me.

Me, just glad to have you back, @Safetydummy!!

 

[DA22]

That will be likely depending as you play, I suspect a more evil MC might have more slaves, while a morecaring MC might have more partners in his harem. There will likely still be some domination games though, too many of the girls in this game are not exactly weak willed themselves and some like to be dominated.:angel:

 

[ASLPro3D]

I guess my first priority like always will be to increase the MCs harem x'D Getting some more Master/Slave relationships wouldn't be too bad as well :evilsmile:

I think there will need to be some sort of balance in the creation of the "harem", I imagine that there will need to be a fair amount of juggling taking place, as well as, some that will look to be the "center" of the MC's attention, while others will be plenty happy with an occasional roll in the hay every now and then...

I've been far too busy focusing on "Adventures of a Changed Boy" to really be thinking much on "Wicked Choices: Book Two", but I imagine that I would like to work it in some way, where players need to understand the person whom they wish to add to their harem and find ways in which to "win them over" to their side... rather than a simple walk up "howdy-do" and fuck each other's brains out...

Well has it not been a right of moms and dads over all of history to make their children blush and uncomfortable, though I admit that is mostly from stories they tell about their children when they were young to their new girlfriends. :biggrin:

Oh yeah, been on the receiving end of that shit, right there!! LOL "Oh and here is a cute photo taken of Jack Jr. laying naked on a blanket wearing his dad's Air Force sunglasses... doesn't he have a cute, little behind?"

Oh god... please, just kill me now.

That will be likely depending as you play, I suspect a more evil MC might have more slaves, while a morecaring MC might have more partners in his harem. There will likely still be some domination games though, too many of the girls in this game are not exactly weak willed themselves and some like to be dominated.:angel:

Yes, agreed, Alignment is going to play a very key role in the whole "relationship" side of things... have your character skewed too far in one direction may actually keep you from getting a certain character to join your "harem", as well as, depending on who is already in your "harem" can even depend on who will side with you sexually or not as well... I mean, lets say you have two girls who hate the living shit out of each other, they are not going to be too kind as to sharing the same person... so, players are going to have to really consider their choices and go by their personal interests on who they want in their "fuck-buddy" system.

Nor, will it be as easy to just "hack a save" to get everyone, as the conflicts in relationships will cause game breaking bugs... XD


(Edited PS: And, yeah, I don't make very many weak female characters... mousy maybe, but not weak. )

 

[DA22]

Sighs, ah well I already knew I would likely have to be slightly sneaky, though not dishonest, sometimes and juggle as an expert and then would likely need to do a replay or three to get all those that I want. :FeelsGoodMan: Besides keeping some at the status of the occasional tumble in the hay might be quite nice. Not sure what kinda inhuman superpowers you are planning to give MC but there is only 24 hours in a day ..........:biggrin:

Poor Jack, that is worse as what my mother did to me I think.

 

[ASLPro3D]

Sighs, ah well I already knew I would likely have to be slightly sneaky, though not dishonest, sometimes and juggle as an expert and then would likely need to do a replay or three to get all those that I want. :FeelsGoodMan: Besides keeping some at the status of the occasional tumble in the hay might be quite nice. Not sure what kinda inhuman superpowers you are planning to give MC but there is only 24 hours in a day ..........:biggrin:

Poor Jack, that is worse as what my mother did to me I think.

I absolutely believe that there will need to be some sort of manipulation, cajoling and, perhaps, use of powers or outright blackmail to get certain characters to side with the MC... each action and way will be patterned into each character and certain "flags" will need to be activated to accomplish things.

Brute force may work some of the times, but not all of the times and too many bad marks can raise the ire of Karma as well... or shift the player's alignment.

And, yeah, I'd like to forget about my childhood. x'D

 

[GhostPhil]

I think there will need to be some sort of balance in the creation of the "harem", I imagine that there will need to be a fair amount of juggling taking place, as well as, some that will look to be the "center" of the MC's attention, while others will be plenty happy with an occasional roll in the hay every now and then...

Well that's acutally a better working harem in my opinion. I mean having 10 women loving you is nice and all, but what happens when they all want to sleep in your bed? xD What I like is a more open minded harem, not that I wouldn't love the other way as well. And a I like polygamy, I also think that it actually would be nice having at least some harem members loving each other as well

I've been far too busy focusing on "Adventures of a Changed Boy" to really be thinking much on "Wicked Choices: Book Two", but I imagine that I would like to work it in some way, where players need to understand the person whom they wish to add to their harem and find ways in which to "win them over" to their side... rather than a simple walk up "howdy-do" and fuck each other's brains out...

Well "AoaCB" will play into Book Two, so you have to think about the things you do
And of course it wouldn't be fun if you could just add harem members without doing anything. Oh well Claires Mom (yeah I know me and names...) was practically added to my harem without really winning her over. Well in a way I won against her, I guess

(Edited PS: And, yeah, I don't make very many weak female characters... mousy maybe, but not weak. )

Weak females can be quite boring. And weak is realive, a weak body can be desirable and you want to protect the girl. While a weak will could be a turn of.

 

[Nomec104]

Guys i started the game recently, and i have one BIG question. Do the MC needs to remind me that claire is 19 years old every two lines of dialogue? Sorry guys i dont want to be a jerk, the game is really interesting, but seriously this is unnerving. There's no need to repeat the same thing over and over again.

 

[DA22]

Ah well seems you did survive it pretty well and sounds like she liked you even if pretty embarrassing. :evilsmile:

Yeah will be interesting to see how you will work it out and with some of the characters we might already have an inkling. Interesting you make Karma so important/powerfull again the reveals in ACOB should be interesting, but what says she will not be the first I would introduce into my harem if given the chance. ( No, my lady Syrina of course I would choose nobody over you, no need to set everything on fire. :biggrin.

Though from the end of the ritual it seems Karma and Syrina are not exactly friends though maybe not enemies either.

 

[Palanto]

Guys i started the game recently, and i have one BIG question. Do the MC needs to remind me that claire is 19 years old every two lines of dialogue? Sorry guys i dont want to be a jerk, the game is really interesting, but seriously this is unnerving. There's no need to repeat the same thing over and over again.

Yep, only happens in the prologue and probably was to make sure at the time that patreon doesn't ban the game because she looks quite young (Though not underage in my view )

 

[ASLPro3D]

Guys i started the game recently, and i have one BIG question. Do the MC needs to remind me that claire is 19 years old every two lines of dialogue? Sorry guys i dont want to be a jerk, the game is really interesting, but seriously this is unnerving. There's no need to repeat the same thing over and over again.

Had to a year ago to make sure that Patreon didn't delete the game because of underaged looking characters, while they were going through and doing their big purge... and as @Palanto said, it is only in the Prologue...

 

[c3p0]

I think there will need to be some sort of balance in the creation of the "harem", I imagine that there will need to be a fair amount of juggling taking place, as well as, some that will look to be the "center" of the MC's attention, while others will be plenty happy with an occasional roll in the hay every now and then...

I've been far too busy focusing on "Adventures of a Changed Boy" to really be thinking much on "Wicked Choices: Book Two", but I imagine that I would like to work it in some way, where players need to understand the person whom they wish to add to their harem and find ways in which to "win them over" to their side... rather than a simple walk up "howdy-do" and fuck each other's brains out...

This is what most harem lack. I mean it is nice as MC to have xx girls and have hot steamy sex with them and probably with more than one at the same time. But what I never check is, why should I be the only one to enjoy my harem? Can't the girl themselves not enjoy each others company too and why would my harem only do things together in the king size bed that is needed for this kind of act?:evilsmile:

For I myself this harems feels more a whore house party for a rich patreon rather than a relationship with a bunch of people.

Oh yeah, been on the receiving end of that shit, right there!! LOL "Oh and here is a cute photo taken of Jack Jr. laying naked on a blanket wearing his dad's Air Force sunglasses... doesn't he have a cute, little behind?"

Oh god... please, just kill me now.

Isn't it this the reason you want to do the same to your children as your parents have done to you, as some twisted wheel of karma?:coldsweat: I' haven't had the honour that my parents have shown my girlfriend the most embarrassed picture of little me, not because of the lack of picture eher of the lack of... But I must find this photo albums beforex'D
And now I know why facebook and co exist: Rather post your most embarrassed picture yourself than have another do this.

Yes, agreed, Alignment is going to play a very key role in the whole "relationship" side of things... have your character skewed too far in one direction may actually keep you from getting a certain character to join your "harem", as well as, depending on who is already in your "harem" can even depend on who will side with you sexually or not as well... I mean, lets say you have two girls who hate the living shit out of each other, they are not going to be too kind as to sharing the same person... so, players are going to have to really consider their choices and go by their personal interests on who they want in their "fuck-buddy" system.

Nor, will it be as easy to just "hack a save" to get everyone, as the conflicts in relationships will cause game breaking bugs... XD


(Edited PS: And, yeah, I don't make very many weak female characters... mousy maybe, but not weak. )

"Broken", "soulless" chars without a personality can have a walk-on:evilsmile:. I like to have chars with personality even if this end in some unintended ways. Better to have burnned hands than never know what fire is.

Yep, only happens in the prologue and probably was to make sure at the time that patreon doesn't ban the game because she looks quite young (Though not underage in my view )

I don't want to know, what the patreon approper way would be for an quite young, quite familiar locking character. "The grown-up, complete unrelated women cast a short glance over the MCs bodie." And seconds before in the game was this two questions:
How old shall this female be? Insert a positive value integer here:
What relationship does this woman have with the MC?x'D

 

[Wyrme]

Sighs, ah well I already knew I would likely have to be slightly sneaky, though not dishonest, sometimes and juggle as an expert

Rummages around in tape collection(for those of us old enough, the rest google), and queues up Ringling Bros. theme.

Though from the end of the ritual it seems Karma and Syrina are not exactly friends though maybe not enemies either.

Well, umm, is Karma really anyone's friend. Her job is maintain balance, and break out the 'board of correction' when one drifts to far from the center. We have all wondered in a positive and negative way what did I do to deserve this event. Most use fate as the victim of this adoration/accusation, but methinks Karma pulls the trigger on the events. I would say, that these two have a past as our Lady was/is a Goddess to humans and Karma is a for a lack of a better term a Gaian Goddess.

 

[Nomec104]

Yep, only happens in the prologue and probably was to make sure at the time that patreon doesn't ban the game because she looks quite young (Though not underage in my view )

Had to a year ago to make sure that Patreon didn't delete the game because of underaged looking characters, while they were going through and doing their big purge... and as @Palanto said, it is only in the Prologue...

Oh yeah now its all clear guys. Patreon purged most of rape and incest games if not all with their shitty and, IMHO nazi, ToS and forced censorship. Wait how did you guys dealt with patreon about Uncle/Niece intercourse?

 

[DA22]

Yeah @Wyrme we will have to learn a lot more about Karma and the other possible force(s) behind her and her past interactions with our Lady before we can know with a relative amount of certainty. I am quite sure though the adventures of the other male of the species and the capture and locking up of the Demonothans in Hell and the way Karma dealt with that is part of the reason for the friction. :evilsmile:

 

[DA22]

Oh yeah now its all clear guys. Patreon purged most of rape and incest games if not all with their shitty and, IMHO nazi, ToS and forced censorship. Wait how did you guys dealt with patreon about Uncle/Niece intercourse?

What I understood from Jack is that Patreon have checked the game already quite a number of times and warned them some things are near the edge of their rules, but that cause of the story elements and functionality of the incest within the game it just stays within. Also remember that paypall may well be a bigger influence on this as Patreon itself is.

If the game was more a porn game with story instead of a story first with adult parts, this might well have been different I suspect.

 

[Wyrme]

I am quite sure though the adventures of the other male of the species and the capture and locking up of the Demonothans in Hell and the way Karma dealt with that is part of the reason for the friction. :evilsmile:

Why do I hear Lachesis whisper "Not now, there is a long game afoot. You will know when the iron is hot." Karma nods, and studies the events as BCE ended.

 

[ASLPro3D]

Oh yeah now its all clear guys. Patreon purged most of rape and incest games if not all with their shitty and, IMHO nazi, ToS and forced censorship. Wait how did you guys dealt with patreon about Uncle/Niece intercourse?

As mentioned, we were often checked by Patreon's team and found to be within the specified parameters, I think... in large part... due to the fact that our 'incest' kind of followed along the lines of "Game of Thrones" incest, which they stated would be permissible; unlike many others whose incest storylines were the same ol' "Son decides to fuck mom and sis" stories that they were purging.

Also, our rape scene wasn't gratuitous rape... it was life-like, story altering and driven... it wasn't your run of the mill, spank your pud to a girl getting rape...

Bottom line, I think it really is the depth that we put into the story and characters that kept us in the Patreon "safe zone", thankfully.

 

[ASLPro3D]

Ah well seems you did survive it pretty well and sounds like she liked you even if pretty embarrassing. :evilsmile:

Yeah will be interesting to see how you will work it out and with some of the characters we might already have an inkling. Interesting you make Karma so important/powerfull again the reveals in ACOB should be interesting, but what says she will not be the first I would introduce into my harem if given the chance. ( No, my lady Syrina of course I would choose nobody over you, no need to set everything on fire. :biggrin.

Though from the end of the ritual it seems Karma and Syrina are not exactly friends though maybe not enemies either.

Nope, not friends... but not actually enemies either...

 

[Nomec104]

What I understood from Jack is that Patreon have checked the game already quite a number of times and warned them some things are near the edge of their rules, but that cause of the story elements and functionality of the incest within the game it just stays within. Also remember that paypall may well be a bigger influence on this as Patreon itself is.

If the game was more a porn game with story instead of a story first with adult parts, this might well have been different I suspect.

Yeah i know that paypal here have a big influence over patreon, still i don't understand the meaning of all this. What benefit could you gain by censorship? We are talking about Art here, something fictitous born from someone imagination, and so should remain free and pure as the creator himself imagined it not adulterated only cause it not fit the liking of a group of people.

As mentioned, we were often checked by Patreon's team and found to be within the specified parameters, I think... in large part... due to the fact that our 'incest' kind of followed along the lines of "Game of Thrones" incest, which they stated would be permissible; unlike many others whose incest storylines were the same ol' "Son decides to fuck mom and sis" stories that they were purging.

Also, our rape scene wasn't gratuitous rape... it was life-like, story altering and driven... it wasn't your run of the mill, spank your pud to a girl getting rape...

Bottom line, I think it really is the depth that we put into the story and characters that kept us in the Patreon "safe zone", thankfully.

Well im glad about it dude, and yeah story+sex is better than sex only xD. Anyway sorry for my little off-topic, but i asked this mainly cuz i can't stand censorship in any of its form. Ignorance and forced silence is far more damaging than free speech, as it will prevent elevating ourselves from our current position.

 

[ASLPro3D]

This is what most harem lack. I mean it is nice as MC to have xx girls and have hot steamy sex with them and probably with more than one at the same time. But what I never check is, why should I be the only one to enjoy my harem? Can't the girl themselves not enjoy each others company too and why would my harem only do things together in the king size bed that is needed for this kind of act?:evilsmile:

For I myself this harems feels more a whore house party for a rich patreon rather than a relationship with a bunch of people.

The only games that I've ever seen come close to "true harem" endings or situations is the Japanese... and even then, there needs to be some suspension of belief to full accept it... but far more believable to some of the drivel that I've seen done in non-Asian adult games.

I always try to pay HEAVY attention to characters, their personalities, what drives them, what arouses them and all of the things that makes them interesting... so the concept that girls are just going to pile on because it is the Main Character is insulting and unbelievable to me.

Some girls are just not going to be interested in sharing someone that they care about with someone else...

Isn't it this the reason you want to do the same to your children as your parents have done to you, as some twisted wheel of karma?:coldsweat: I' haven't had the honour that my parents have shown my girlfriend the most embarrassed picture of little me, not because of the lack of picture eher of the lack of... But I must find this photo albums beforex'D
And now I know why facebook and co exist: Rather post your most embarrassed picture myself than have another do this.

While I have a child from my first marriage to the legal definition of the "spawn of hell", I never got to watch her grow up or have interacted with her... so my abilities to "hand down" embarrassing moments were denied to me. Which is all good, as she's become very much like her mother and would not be adverse to stabbing me in the back... (or in the gut, which some may understand my reference to).

Social media... man, I am so glad we didn't have that shit when I was a kid... I am quite happy that the things that I've done (both in the presence of my family and not) were not telegraphed for the world (or law enforcement) to see...

"Broken", "soulless" chars without a personality can have a walk-on:evilsmile:. I like to have chars with personality even if this end in some unintended ways. Better to have burnned hands than never know what fire is.

Heh... all of my characters are "broken" or "flawed"... but not "soulless".