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***snip***

Love it or hate it, it is MINE to tell and tell it I WILL, whether I have a million fans or just one.

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I really hope you stay true to this statement. It seems that you have already written the main part of this story and to alter it afterwards would likely go wrong.
 

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I really hope you stay true to this statement. It seems that you have already written the main part of this story and to alter it afterwards would likely go wrong.
Exactly, @Caligula the story is already written in 3 parts and the course of the story isn't and can't change or it would screw everything up.

Yes, I can expand on certain aspects if I want and enough people asked, but the main storyline is NOT going to change.

I am also currently writing the novel for a second game that I will start once this one is finished and I've generated enough income from the first game (and the sales of the novels that I do) to actually make ASLPro3D into a full fledged game studio by working with group of professional game designers that I know and met after building Renderosity and Renderotica and who are located in East Asia, but to do that, I have to make a solid income stream first...

I know that I have lofty, but achievable, goals for the future... but right now my focus is on "Wicked Choices", building a solid reputation and reliable income stream and then will move forward with my other plans. :cool:
 

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Big Brother not a good example though . He was doing false advertisement. Game and what was advertised 180 degree opposite. People felt cheated. And its not like 4-5 people's whining. There is more then 1200 comment under his 0.4 update. Almost %70-80 percent negative. It was a revolt. He had a choice. He choose money. Honestly I felt bad for him but he deserved it.
Yes as a creator you are gonna make YOUR game. You can do whatever you like. But being honest to people who support you also important. As long as you do that you don't have much problems anyway.
Note; Liked your game. Keep it coming.
Just adding that Dark Silver is a she. Kinda explains a lot about some characters there.
 

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Ooooff... did NOT know that... well, yeah, that would certainly explain A LOT then!

Hrrmmm... that could possibly NOT bode WELL for the male protagonist.... :'(
It's not cool to psycoanalyse from a far, but i can't help myself sometimes, when "the projecting is strong with this one".
 
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It's not cool to psycoanalyse from a far, but i can't help myself sometimes, when "the projecting is strong with this one".
I always try to find the motivation of character actions in anything I read or watch and, honestly, a good portion of that comes from understanding the creator... after all, we put so much of ourselves into them. That is why cross-platform television shows, books and movies usually have a common thread and parallel in the writer's storytelling (good, CRYSTAL CLEAR example of this would be Zach Snyder's work... watch the Watchmen and then Batman Vs Superman side by side)... so some psychoanalyzing is perfectly normal.

In all of my work, there is ALWAYS some portion of religious motifs, philosophy (particularly Eastern), and my penchant to mash different genres together in some form or fashion... so to investigate and take into consideration a writer's background and adapt some element into that person's work is not only natural, but a requirement to have an inkling of where the story might progress in the future...

In this situation, this new information provided, answers a lot of questions that I had about that game's MC and the... erm... reactions of certain characters and such... explains a lot actually.
 

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I always try to find the motivation of character actions in anything I read or watch and, honestly, a good portion of that comes from understanding the creator... after all, we put so much of ourselves into them. That is why cross-platform television shows, books and movies usually have a common thread and parallel in the writer's storytelling (good, CRYSTAL CLEAR example of this would be Zach Snyder's work... watch the Watchmen and then Batman Vs Superman side by side)... so some psychoanalyzing is perfectly normal.

In all of my work, there is ALWAYS some portion of religious motifs, philosophy (particularly Eastern), and my penchant to mash different genres together in some form or fashion... so to investigate and take into consideration a writer's background and adapt some element into that person's work is not only natural, but a requirement to have an inkling of where the story might progress in the future...

In this situation, this new information provided, answers a lot of questions that I had about that game's MC and the... erm... reactions of certain characters and such... explains a lot actually.
What you're describing it's just "write what you know ", nothing wrong about that. Along the years, i've also came across a neat collection of characters. That's ok. However, sometimes, just sometimes, you cross paths with someone so Unconscious AND Neurotic, that you just can't help yourself. "Oh, i see, that's very interesting, please tell me more ". Dark Silver falls along that category. Projecting, projecting. And mind you, i've never played her game. I just scrolled through the thread in F95, that was enough . In another game, "Dreaming with Dana ", the Dev, Ptolemy, admitted that he based Dana on an actual girl, "the one who got away". I believe him, because Dana is the only character who seems "human". Too bad he didn't do the same to the other characters. No surprise, a whole bunch of folks asked him for a "Dana only path" , because the other girls were so "unreal" , and not in a good way. At least you took the time and trouble to write character into your characters. That alone puts you in my top 10, if nothing else.
 

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Concerning Dark silver, it seemed to be debate a lot about his/her gender and it was never really 100% prouved, as far as i know...from the thread on rthis forum and its more than 650 posts..so the source may not be the best waterproof one :) . Anyway i really hope DS is not a she coz it might explained why the males are so big jerks in it but damn the females are all damaged good: raped, blackmailed, drugged and so on...ouch sad sad visions !!!

About, patreons who might influenced the games they support, i don't see how it can deliver something good. I do understand that the dev seeks more money and then can be ready to bend over in order to satisfy the customers but the endgame will surely a damn mess. You can't make eveyone happy all the time, you can't. By nature and thank god, we are different and don't response the same way to the same stimulus.

The most immersive support for me is book and i do enjoy the ride that the writter offer, i might not always agree with the directions taken but what the hell, the point is to share what the creator choosed to bring us to.

I'm always stunned by the reactions i read here about letting the patrons to influencing the games, at the restaurant do you rush to the kitchen to give tips to the chef, if you pay enough can you put sunglasse to the "Joconde".....

We have the chance to live in a time where you do have an incredible variety of offers, we just have to pick the one we like and not try to change what we don't.

EDIT; apologies, typos, bad grammar and other shits, didn't read it back before press send.
 

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Concerning Dark silver, it seemed to be debate a lot about his/her gender and it was never really 100% prouved, as far as i know...from the thread on rthis forum and its more than 650 posts..so the source may not be the best waterproof one :) . Anyway i really hope DS is not a she coz it might explained why the males are so big jerks in it but damn the females are all damaged good: raped, blackmailed, drugged and so on...ouch sad sad visions !!!

About, patreons who might influenced the games they support, i don't see how it can deliver something good. I do understand that the dev seeks more money and then can be ready to bend over in order to satisfy the customers but the endgame will surely a damn mess. You can't make eveyone happy all the time, you can't. By nature and thank god, we are different and don't response the same way to the same stimulus.

The most immersive support for me is book and i do enjoy the ride that the writter offer, i might not always agree with the directions taken but what the hell, the point is to share what the creator choosed to bring us to.

I'm always stunned by the reactions i read here about letting the patrons to influencing the games, at the restaurant do you rush to the kitchen to give tips to the chef, if you pay enough can you put sunglasse to the "Joconde".....

We have the chance to live in a time where you do have an incredible variety of offers, we just have to pick the one we like and not try to change what we don't.
I think you solved your own question regarding DS. Pretty much on board with everything else you said.
 

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I think you solved your own question regarding DS. Pretty much on board with everything else you said.
To be honest, i think DS is a she and i pray that she is kind of cynical and pragmatic person, that the design of BB was just a marketing one and not a too much personal one. As you said you write what you know...bloody hell BB is a the most depressive visions of humans interactions i've seen in a game so far. But i avoid a lot of them so, hehe. (thanks the tags systems)
 

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To be honest, i think DS is a she and i pray that she is kind of cynical and pragmatic person, that the design of BB was just a marketing one and not a too much personal one. As you said you write what you know...bloody hell BB is a the most depressive visions of humans interactions i've seen in a game so far. But i avoid a lot of them so, hehe. (thanks the tags systems)
You can add "Ethan's Legacy" to that list . No surprise, the Dev abandoned the game with a clinical depression. They both come from the same mold, poorly socialised , fairly Unconscious, High Neuroticism. And there's a lot more of those from these came from. A LOT MORE.
 
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Yeah, I am pretty much a "Write What You Know..." kind of writer, though there are times that I have my "I Wonder What Would Happen If..." (which, incidentally, if while playing an MMORPG with me and you hear me utter those words over TeamSpeak or Discord... RUN IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!! It usually, never ends well. lol).

I have always enjoyed testing the limits of my imagination and started writing at a very early age, there have been many times even prior to picking up a pen where I would retreat into my own skull to escape the boring humdrum existence that we call LIFE... whether in mass, or while in school, or even sitting bored on a couch or prior to falling asleep, endlessly running concepts, ideas, exploring worlds in my imagination or playing "hero" to the "jock's cheerleader girlfriend".

Wired for imagination at an early age... and have always been the one, while in group settings, to stand/sit quietly and just watch others... watch how they interact, talk, stand, the gestures they make, the facial ticks and expressions... smiling and nodding myself at all the right moments to be granted the ability to just observe...

...and then I apply those observations, thoughts, emotions and expressions in my own work, finding the right fit for a particular character for any given emotion or situation, regardless of how 'fantastical' the situation may be... to such an extent that I've often have internal 'arguments' with my characters for not doing the things that I'd like them to do, either because they seem to have other ideas of their own, or they decide to rebel and take the long way to get to where I want them to be.

That's why I have repeatedly stated in regards to the story, that it is what it is... it can't change... I can't ask a character that has a particularly, pre-created personality and have them go against that nature, simply because readers might find such actions to be gratifying to them... they can suggest fetishes or ideas, but those things would likely be applied to an appropriate character that would accept that situation, or if forced upon them react accordingly.

Case in point... the Character of Claire is never going to be a perfect A+ Student and openly trusting and naïve... given her background (which more of which will be shown next month) wouldn't permit those actions and responses from her... it would be impossible for me as a writer to try and inject that into her, and if I did, she wouldn't be Claire anymore...

Which is why I was and am so adamant with saying that the story can't change... yes, I can take suggestions and try to find a place to apply them, but I can't butcher my story or characters... each serves a purpose and has a use... as Piers Anthony once cleverly described in his Xanth series, you may not have a full understanding of the thread's importance, until the full tapestry is completed.
 
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You can add "Ethan's Legacy" to that list . No surprise, the Dev abandoned the game with a clinical depression. They both come from the same mold, poorly socialised , fairly Unconscious, High Neuroticism. And there's a lot more of those from these came from. A LOT MORE.
Ouch, I was not aware that the creator had a breakdown like that.

There are some that aren't built for criticism or good at handling rejections... I tend to get angry before I'd ever get depressed and there have been times in the past where I've said things I shouldn't have said or, even, thought things that I shouldn't have thought... but I learned a long time ago, it does no good... be true to who you are, to your vision and just do it... the measurement of one's worth should never be placed in the hands of another to decide, or measured by money/fame... some of the best impacts a person can make in life is solely on just one individual.
 

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You can add "Ethan's Legacy" to that list . No surprise, the Dev abandoned the game with a clinical depression. They both come from the same mold, poorly socialised , fairly Unconscious, High Neuroticism. And there's a lot more of those from these came from. A LOT MORE.
I liked this one at first as Dream of desire aswell, and it became, well, nahhhh
I love corrution but not at all as the many devs do it out here...i like the catholic tied ass women kind, you know the ones that you have to slowly made her realized as much as pervs as you, they really are. You don't forced or abused them you just revealed their inner nature...hope to be clear enough here.

Anyway, sorry to be off topic here and to re-focus on the thread, i won't ask for a "catholic perv" in this game even for a top tier pledge, hahaha. @ASLPro3D do your thing, i will like it as it is.
 

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I liked this one at first as Dream of desire aswell, and it became, well, nahhhh
I love corrution but not at all as the many devs do it out here...i like the catholic tied ass women kind, you know the ones that you have to slowly made her realized as much as pervs as you, they really are. You don't forced or abused them you just revealed their inner nature...hope to be clear enough here.

Anyway, sorry to be off topic here and to re-focus on the thread, i won't ask for a "catholic perv" in this game even for a top tier pledge, hahaha. @ASLPro3D do your thing, i will like it as it is.
That's not Corruption, that's Seduction. That's what i'm always looking for in Porn Games, Seduction. More often than not, i come back disappointed , because i'm not looking for a cheat ( like Blackmail ) or to pimp her out to Mankind . Like we say in my country, Men want a Woman that's a Lady in the street, a Wife at home, and a Slut in bed.
 

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I liked this one at first as Dream of desire aswell, and it became, well, nahhhh
I love corrution but not at all as the many devs do it out here...i like the catholic tied ass women kind, you know the ones that you have to slowly made her realized as much as pervs as you, they really are. You don't forced or abused them you just revealed their inner nature...hope to be clear enough here.

Anyway, sorry to be off topic here and to re-focus on the thread, i won't ask for a "catholic perv" in this game even for a top tier pledge, hahaha. @ASLPro3D do your thing, i will like it as it is.
LOL if you think about it, a little, Princess Lynara might just be your sort of "kink" after all, she's an angel that has lived a very sheltered life, finally out of the castle and bothered after having a strange "wet dream" and with a "human" no less... there is a whole lot of religious oppression there! Who knows if she could turn into a "wildcat" once she's tasted forbidden fruit! ;)

Although... only time will tell. LOL
 

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Do I have to play a woman? Or is it a choice?
Primarily you play the male (or the Antichrist), the only time you play as the female or others is to show the current story's effect that is unfolding elsewhere.
 

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LOL if you think about it, a little, Princess Lynara might just be your sort of "kink" after all, she's an angel that has lived a very sheltered life, finally out of the castle and bothered after having a strange "wet dream" and with a "human" no less... there is a whole lot of religious oppression there! Who knows if she could turn into a "wildcat" once she's tasted forbidden fruit! ;)

Although... only time will tell. LOL
I know !
That's why i liked this chapter one as much :)
 

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That's not Corruption, that's Seduction. That's what i'm always looking for in Porn Games, Seduction. More often than not, i come back disappointed , because i'm not looking for a cheat ( like Blackmail ) or to pimp her out to Mankind . Like we say in my country, Men want a Woman that's a Lady in the street, a Wife at home, and a Slut in bed.
@Thornhill is correct, but it isn't only seduction, there is an element of corruption to it as well.... introducing another person to go beyond their normal boundaries and beliefs is a form of corruption.

Heck, one could say that I corrupted my wife, because she was prudish when it came to intimacy... over time, through various ways, I showed her that there were more pleasures out there for her to sample that she'd enjoy if only she allowed herself to relax and try it... so yeah, there was a bit of corruption involved while doing that... and, yes, there is a bit of it in my game as well. ;)
 
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