Shelscott50

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I was thinking the same thing, it should be 5.1 since it's day 5 part 1/4
On 12/5; 4.6 update "This is the End of Day 4" ,...later "secondly, this Isn't exactly the Final Build of WVM Day 4.
A few things Still need 'tweaked', but Content wise it is all there."
 
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crewfalcons

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:mad::mad: Shocking,... I am NOT a Big Fan of Patreon. I subscribe and Follow, but Not a "paying member".
DEV's Need a Site To POST Their "games/VN's without the Morality & "Thought Police" Rules!!
The Only Thing I am against is "corruption or abuse of a Minor". But Patreon's views on Incest story lines Is BULLSHIT!!
All long As All CGI characters are 18+ Who F*cking Cares?? It is a STORY, Not REAL!!
Agree with you there on the most part but (not excusing this but I can get their mindset) if you're a financial geek (disclosure - I am haha) you can kind of see where Patreon is coming from. They've received a lot of capital and investments from venture capital groups over the last few years ( ) and are probably heading down the road to an IPO or positioning themselves to where they'd be bought out by a major tech company (think Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc). When companies, investors, people in general started looking at their business model it raised a lot of eyebrows for people seeing adult games in their portfolio (especially Dark Cookie whose game was incest themed and who still to this day is the 4th highest earner for all content creators ). So naturally, there was going to be a lot questions and pearl clutching and faux-outrage so Patreon did what any company would do - take a sledgehammer in and try and mitigate the problem in hopes to pleasing everyone (which... they didn't haha).

They've had a lot of controversies booting people off ( ) for weakish reasons that drew some irk for people (especially when they would ask how you can boot off some people but have porn games on their site that don't get the same oversight) so I think ultimately Patreon would probably like to get themselves out of the adult gaming side of things (think Tumblr and their ban on adult content). Which is sad since they've been an easy place for creators to put their projects out there for exposure but ultimately probably a good thing because hopefully other platforms that don't have restrictions can grow and take over this business model.
 

Shelscott50

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Agree with you there on the most part but (not excusing this but I can get their mindset) if you're a financial geek (disclosure - I am haha) you can kind of see where Patreon is coming from. They've received a lot of capital and investments from venture capital groups over the last few years ( ) and are probably heading down the road to an IPO or positioning themselves to where they'd be bought out by a major tech company (think Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc). When companies, investors, people in general started looking at their business model it raised a lot of eyebrows for people seeing adult games in their portfolio (especially Dark Cookie whose game was incest themed and who still to this day is the 4th highest earner for all content creators ). So naturally, there was going to be a lot questions and pearl clutching and faux-outrage so Patreon did what any company would do - take a sledgehammer in and try and mitigate the problem in hopes to pleasing everyone (which... they didn't haha).

They've had a lot of controversies booting people off ( ) for weakish reasons that drew some irk for people (especially when they would ask how you can boot off some people but have porn games on their site that don't get the same oversight) so I think ultimately Patreon would probably like to get themselves out of the adult gaming side of things (think Tumblr and their ban on adult content). Which is sad since they've been an easy place for creators to put their projects out there for exposure but ultimately probably a good thing because hopefully other platforms that don't have restrictions can grow and take over this business model.
I Don't Know,.. Maybe I am Wrong... Patreon, or the Law needs to define Better what Is Incest.
Sounds to Me that Law & Patreon Are Confusing Incest with sexual abuse of a Minor...

In Real Life or VN's As Long as People/Characters ARE OVER AGE 18+ It Is FREE WILL (Choice) to Be in a "romantic/sexual relationship" with Family member (mother/son; Father/Daughter; Brother/Sister; Mother/daughter,..Ect).

It Becomes STICKY when One member of Family (mother, father, brother, sister, ect) Is an Adult (18+) becomes sexually or romantically involved with a Younger Sibling (minor).

And On THAT Note,.. Quite hypocritical!! NOBODY Bats an eye at Younger Son with Adult Mom/Aunt/teacher (MILF Fantasies), Older sister/younger brother. Frowned Upon, maybe,...

BUT Someone Say Father/Daughter; Uncle/Niece, Older Brother/younger sister EVERYONE Gets their "Panties into a Twist"!!
 

crewfalcons

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I Don't Know,.. Maybe I am Wrong... Patreon, or the Law needs to define Better what Is Incest.
Sounds to Me that Law & Patreon Are Confusing Incest with sexual abuse of a Minor...

In Real Life or VN's As Long as People/Characters ARE OVER AGE 18+ It Is FREE WILL (Choice) to Be in a "romantic/sexual relationship" with Family member (mother/son; Father/Daughter; Brother/Sister; Mother/daughter,..Ect).

It Becomes STICKY when One member of Family (mother, father, brother, sister, ect) Is an Adult (18+) becomes sexually or romantically involved with a Younger Sibling (minor).

And On THAT Note,.. Quite hypocritical!! NOBODY Bats an eye at Younger Son with Adult Mom/Aunt/teacher (MILF Fantasies), Older sister/younger brother. Frowned Upon, maybe,...

BUT Someone Say Father/Daughter; Uncle/Niece, Older Brother/younger sister EVERYONE Gets their "Panties into a Twist"!!
True and agree with ya.. You can blame for a lot of that. A lot of online (especially big ones) payment services don't want to be associated with sites/services/etc that are adult themed which leads to Patreon acting irrationally and with policy updates and what's considered "suitable adult themed" content. They've kind of just broad brushed and put everything in one big box instead of allowing for nuances to the genre.
 

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The Krypt Angel I wanted to join in on the fun too, Ooh High Priests of Baileyness let me be your Kæmbiən lol
 
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The Krypt Angel

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ANXIOUSLY AWAITING NEXT Update 4.7. What happened??
Maybe the filthy leakers grew consciences?...naaaah more likly the first weekly release is very bare bones with hardly any content so they just didn't see the point of leaking it. The last day didn't even start leaking till the 3rd WIP release
 

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The Krypt Angel I wanted to join in on the fun too, Ooh High Priests of Baileyness let me be your Kæmbiən lol
Alright, I usually pride myself on knowing this sort of thing as I'm a literal fount of useless knowledge, but wtf is a Kæmbiən?

Google seems to think it's Azerbaijani for "most likely" or some sort of olde-Scottish (not quite Gaelic) for a land exchange. :unsure:
 
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Alright, I usually pride myself on knowing this sort of thing as I'm a literal fount of useless knowledge, but wtf is a Kæmbiən?

Google seems to thing it's Azerbaijani for "most likely" or some sort of olde-Scottish (not quite Gaelic) for a land exchange. :unsure:
A kind of Demon Spawn I believe guess my bottomless pit of useless trivia is deeper than yours bro :D
 

SandmansMisery

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Alright, I usually pride myself on knowing this sort of thing as I'm a literal fount of useless knowledge, but wtf is a Kæmbiən?

Google seems to thing it's Azerbaijani for "most likely" or some sort of olde-Scottish (not quite Gaelic) for a land exchange. :unsure:

European mythology and literature, a Cambion/Kæmbiən/ is the offspring of an Incubus, Succubus or other demon with a human. They do the dirty work for the Cult. Sacrificial ritual & Assassin shit lol

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LMAO!! was just goofing around, Having some fun. But I see yourself an avatar slave Bailey got lil butt hurt over it so I removed it, Don't worry I could care less about getting promoted.
 

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European mythology and literature, a Cambion/Kæmbiən/ is the offspring of an Incubus, Succubus or other demon with a human. They do the dirty work for the Cult. Sacrificial ritual & Assassin shit lol



LMAO!! was just goofing around, Having some fun. But I see yourself an avatar slave Bailey got lil butt hurt over it so I removed it, Don't worry I could care less about getting promoted.
nah SB wasn't butthurt hell if anything she was defending you till I told her to shut up lol. thank you for removing it tho. iI admit I got a bit hardcore into character there and sounded way more pissed than I actually was....I've been stuck in the house for days due to shitty weather and my game backlog is running dry so going full cult leader is about my only form of amusement lol
 

Saeno

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I'm loving this so far, although I do wish we could have Natalie's old hair again, that hair was hot on her!
 

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I'm loving this so far, although I do wish we could have Natalie's old hair again, that hair was hot on her!
While i loved her old hair too. I love that she has it changed now. She went from her old hairstyle of trying to hide and be hidden to opening up her face so shes not hiding anymore :) Either way though she looks super cute
 
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