VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch. 1 Ep. 13 B3] [Braindrop]

[ViktorStagnetti]

If baasb has been a long-time supporter maybe you should have pm him and talked with him about it, you should try to understand his pov instead of just blocking someone because he/she said something you don't like.
I get some comments can get to you or how some people express themselves but you should try to look at it from their perspective too.

Sounds like entitlement. Creators are free to remove/deny support they do not want for any reason. Being a patron doesn't give free reign to act like an asshole. It's not hard to be respectful in whatever questions or grievances you have.

 

[Mayonesa]

Not a fan of the giving an already done update with more than 2k renders in little chunks over 2 to 3 months, I could understand doing the next updates like that, but not an update that was already done.

Yeah I know you have problems and it suck but you Braindrop must understand that, at least to me, it feels like you are laughting in my and other supporters's face, I mean having already done most of the work, it needing only to just alter a bit the final day and touches, going from you saying before all that happenned that you could release an update with 1600-1800 renders or we could wait for it to be fully done, going from that to I will release all the work I have done during this whole year you have been supporting me, but instead of giving you a big update like I promised, I will give it to you but in chunks, small ones at that during a few months.

It's like you are moking all of us that supported you during such time, but nevermind I just cancelled my sub and I won't be back, I was hoping you reconsidered and dropped the full release with all the renders you have done, but I won't be supporting you for more months for something that is already done, and should have been deliveried by now sorry.

I hope you have fun doing your game again from now on, but you just killed all the interest I had in this game with your decisions, I can't understand any reason to not release some update you have already done and with a lot of renders, because you for some reason can't do it, but if it's chunking it down and giving it in a few months it is ok, bah whatever.

 

[Deleted member 15555]

Sounds like entitlement. Creators are free to remove/deny support they do not want for any reason. Being a patron doesn't give free reign to act like an asshole. It's not hard to be respectful in whatever questions or grievances you have.

I'm not saying they are, but I very much doubt baasb did express himself in an insulting manner, after all he was a long time supporter, I have been a long time supporter for many devs and I have been supporting this game since the beginning though in this case it wasn't monetary, I know bd from talking and seeing him in many discords in the past and it doesn't suit him to be censuring people just because someone disapproves his way of doing things lately.
I think he may not be looking at the critics from the point of those players and that will only hurt him long-term, take this as someone that has seen this happen with other devs before.

 

[MadMonk]

Not a fan of the giving an already done update with more than 2k renders

There is no proof that the update is done, almost done or whatever someone wants to call it.

 

[Loradeon]

So many things came out this weekend that I had to go back over the last 10 pages again just to be sure I noticed everything. I saw this again and in the course of literally one second I got extremely excited and then instantly disappointed as I remembered "oh yeah, this isn't an update".

Guess its time to change my signature, huh. (notice its not a question)

 

[Braindrop]

update wasnt that bad, just short and the censored stuff was annoying. And whatevers going on with the dev/s .. i hope it works out for good!

I appreciate the kind words homie.

Not a fan of the giving an already done update with more than 2k renders in little chunks over 2 to 3 months, I could understand doing the next updates like that, but not an update that was already done.

Yeah I know you have problems and it suck but you Braindrop must understand that, at least to me, it feels like you are laughting in my and other supporters's face, I mean having already done most of the work, it needing only to just alter a bit the final day and touches, going from you saying before all that happenned that you could release an update with 1600-1800 renders or we could wait for it to be fully done, going from that to I will release all the work I have done during this whole year you have been supporting me, but instead of giving you a big update like I promised, I will give it to you but in chunks, small ones at that during a few months.

It's like you are moking all of us that supported you during such time, but nevermind I just cancelled my sub and I won't be back, I was hoping you reconsidered and dropped the full release with all the renders you have done, but I won't be supporting you for more months for something that is already done, and should have been deliveried by now sorry.

I hope you have fun doing your game again from now on, but you just killed all the interest I had in this game with your decisions, I can't understand any reason to not release some update you have already done and with a lot of renders, because you for some reason can't do it, but if it's chunking it down and giving it in a few months it is ok, bah whatever.

I laid out my reasonings in the brain vomit post.
I'm literally just trying to survive and get past this shit my man and this is how I figure I could do it. There's no laughing or mocking involved.
Was as truthful as possible and it is fine if you do not understand. I fully respect you dropping your pledge in something you aren't happy with or don't believe in. No hard feelings at all.
Thank you very much for the support up to this point and I hope you have a good one.

 

[Trikus]

I appreciate the kind words homie.


I laid out my reasonings in the brain vomit post.
I'm literally just trying to survive and get past this shit my man and this is how I figure I could do it. There's no laughing or mocking involved.
Was as truthful as possible and it is fine if you do not understand. I fully respect you dropping your pledge in something you aren't happy with or don't believe in. No hard feelings at all.
Thank you very much for the support up to this point and I hope you have a good one.

Take care of yourself. I hope you find your way back to normality soon.

 

[Seventy6ers]

Seeing how Karlsson’s Gambit and Summer’s Gone are releasing massive updates after a long wait, really puts things into perspective.

 

[FreshRevenge]

You guys remember when this thread wasn't a toxic cesspool and a pretty cool place to hang out and talk about the game.

Yeah you also remember when BD delivered on a regular basis without making a bunch of excuses for delays. Remember that time when BD wasn't afraid of criticism and deliver the update anyway. Yeah those were good times!

 

[hbppppah]

Some advice for anyone dealing with haters like Braindrop right now...

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[KopengaKris]

Yeah you also remember when BD delivered on a regular basis without making a bunch of excuses for delays. Remember that time when BD wasn't afraid of criticism and deliver the update anyway. Yeah those were good times!

Raw truth right there, could'nt agree more.

 

[FreshRevenge]

This should motivate anyone here!

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[juan palote]

I just hope releasing part of the update helps Braindrop to unblock

 

[Kassan06969]

Maybe they need to send a Marine Corps drill instructor to motivate too slow to release devs?

 

[punisher2099]

I just hope releasing part of the update helps Braindrop to unblock

A lot of fiber will help that too.

 

[FreshRevenge]

A lot of fiber will help that too.

I would say that BD needs Jesus but then the game would never get finish Interesting this is my 777th post, I must be lucky.

 

[Kassan06969]

I would say that BD needs Jesus but then the game would never get finish Interesting this is my 777th post, I must be lucky.

Nah, he needs the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Or maybe Chtulhu to MAKE him release or else...

 

[Buddawg]

I don't think you have any idea what depression means or is...

I REALLY do know what Im talking about. Ive lived with it for 20+ years. And it CLEARLY taught me to prioritize or go under.

 

[metalspace]

I must confess, I read this new update from him as: I promised a lot, but didnt do it, so now Im gonna release small updates over time, to give myself time to do the work and hide that I didnt do it before. But give me some time to do even that, cause I actually havent done anything at all.

I really do like this game, gave it a great review, and I stand by that... But the dev is at -1 rating atm. I simply dont trust him anymore. Too many excuses, to many times with nonsensical delays.
Shit happens to everyone. But this guy seems to have everything under the sun happen to him, on top of handling it extremely poorly.
Im chronicly depressed, and have more diagnosies with it. Including a 0 stress tolerance. Any changes in my life, can tilt me the fuck out. But I dont EVER let it effect my work, at any point. Because, priorities. I have a depressed friend live with me in my house to share expenses, and his priorities are like this dev. Things that dont get him out of his rut. Selfindulgent in his misery and full of excuses. Cant even keep a 8 hour a week job (2x4 hours work days), because of it. But can easily be active 80 hours a week with (active and social) hobbies and helping others, just not himself. I went to the emergency room, monday last week. Went back to work next day. Wednesday my friends mom burned down her kitchen, she is now occupying our sofa and livingroom untill she can return. Im still at work. She cut herself on my kitchen-knifes because i keep them ultra sharp (used to work in food business), and had to go to the emergency room thursday. Sat there with her untill 3am before it got fixed. I still went to work the day after. Everything in my life is fucked up atm, And I still go to work, because priorities. My friend who has bad priorities, lives for endorfin kicks. So he doesnt do anything that doesnt give him a little kick. Fastfood, no chores, gaming, flirting. Living by three rules unconcioucsly (does it give a kick, is it easy, is it safe and something I know) What ever he can to feel alive for three seconds, and not a though outside of that. And then he gets even more depressed by the guilt of not doing what he should have done. Im suspecting this dev is pretty much the same, but he reached a state where the income is a given in his mind, and the work doesnt give endorfines anymore. It became an every day chore, and he neglects it heavily.
I see the same excuses in him as I do in my roommate. And the same result. So yeah, I dont trust the dev anymore, and I suspect an abandoned tag in the future.

So I'm replying to this post because what you say about chronic depression hits close to home and I will apologize right now if I sound like a dick, but that is not my intention whatsoever.

The thing about depression which you need to understand is that it is a psychological problem and not a physiological one. It is not like a flu or COVID where everyone gets varying degrees of the same symptoms. It is completely different for different people. You say you went to work everyday and didn't let it hamper your work and thats great but generalizing that to everyone with depression is wrong. I was diagnosed with chronic depression too back in 2020, alongside a healthy dose of anxiety with multiple troughs as my therapist called it ranging from mild to severe depression that went on for almost a decade (simply because I was not willing to accept it and seek help due the stigma associated with it in my country). Now I worked for 2 years while depressed (till may 2017) and I was miserable every minute of it even when I was reconized as one of the best employees in the company. It meant nothing to me since I was mostly working on auto and separating my emotions completely. Anyways at some all that came crashing down and I resigned and got into that same pattern you described for you friend. I know why I followed that pattern and I'll explain that later.

But moving on in 2019 I went for higher education in a foreign and pushed through the 1st semester somehow but all that misery that had built up crashed down on me in the 2nd one and I got to a point I never ever want to get to again and lets just say the only reason I'm typing this right now is because I failed at that too and luckily for me found a much better option and I can say wholeheartedly that I'm glad to be alive right now.

Gettin back to your friend. I was in a similar pattern of playing games , wathing movies/series/streams just so I could keep all that built up misery (emotions) at bay simply because I was not even close to brave enough to handle them. So I would spend all my awake time keeping myself occupied with something/anything to feel somewhat sane and as such I dreaded going to sleep since I had nothing to distract me there. But after going to sleep somehow, I would start that exact same pattern again and as you can imagine this only worked for so long till 2020 as I described above.

Now the reason I made this post is not because of BD - at this point I don't expect an update and I will get back to this later. The reason I made this is just to give you an example of depression affects people differently and your friend might need serious help. From experience, what I can tell is that you fight your way everyday through it but I genuinely feel you need help to really get over it and actually move on with your life. If you acn talk to your friend instead of judging them based on your experience, since they might be afftected by the aame illness but in an extremely different way. Just a suggestion and its entirely your choice, don't take this to mean "yo dawg, you know nothing about depression and I'm right!" Thats not it. Just simply an example of a different reaction to depression and I hope it can help your friend out.

Now back to BD. The way I see it, there are 2 option. 1) he really is going through depression/anxiety or any other mental (makes no fucking sense) health issues that have supposedly been going on for over a year. In this case he really should shut down this whole patreon bs and seek help either from someone who knows him very well or from a professional (and I do mean professional not one of those judgmental assholes with a degree in psychology/psychaitry whatever) because he ain't getting over this the way he's been going about it.

2) it all bullshit and 2k renders don't exist. Dude is just buying himself time to play catch up for 1 year of nothingness.

I'm more inclined towards the 2nd one simply because I don't know him and there have just been too many devs before him, who've followed this exact same pattern. Funny thing is, when I got out of the whole situation I described above and started working again I wanted to support some devs and BD was one of them. For obvious reasons I decided I would wait for the next update and well here we are - money saved.

Anyways, too long a post, but I do wish you and friend the best. Hope thing work out for both of you.

 

[Raging_Moose]

I just finished this today so much new content from he last time I played it can't wait for more