VN Ren'Py WVM [S2 Ch. 1 Ep. 13 B3] [Braindrop]

[jjmayne]

Is anyone here a Patreon of his? What are the comments like on his last post? Are people equally as frustrated with his ghosting as we are?

When the update first came out, the comments were, of course, positive. But seeing as how that was about 3 weeks ago, most of the comments now are asking where he's at, if there's been any news on the update, and all the variations of, and there is definitely frustration in most of them. They also have double digit likes, so people are agreeing with the sentiments.

And he's also ghosting his discord server as well. There have been multiple people asking for any information and the mods (or whoever) that say they are in contact with BD refuse to answer or even acknowledge the question. So either they aren't asking BD about it, or BD isn't telling them.

 

[EroPulse]

When the update first came out, the comments were, of course, positive. But seeing as how that was about 3 weeks ago, most of the comments now are asking where he's at, if there's been any news on the update, and all the variations of, and there is definitely frustration in most of them. They also have double digit likes, so people are agreeing with the sentiments.

And he's also ghosting his discord server as well. There have been multiple people asking for any information and the mods (or whoever) that say they are in contact with BD refuse to answer or even acknowledge the question. So either they aren't asking BD about it, or BD isn't telling them.

Thanks brother. For me, personally, I've definitely been critical of BD on here.

Truly, I hope he comes back, or whatever he's got going on. I remain doubtful as a pessimistic. Hopefully we'll get some news this weekend.

 

[luci4n0]

briandrop now this comment is not throwing hate or anything like that, I follow your wvm project since its inception and it's a fucking great game you deserve recognition for it.
The only thing I recommend you and it's better that you don't release small updates or leave some comment about the updates when they have reduced content so to speak, many of us are waiting to see the end of the work since it's unique and original.
Keep up the good work and we hope to see more.

 

[jasont123]

So I don't think that anyone has a problem with BD taking some time to himself to handle whatever he has going on IRL as it should always be prioritized over anything imo, especially the persons mental health. But to the people constantly defending BD, it just makes no sense at this point...

I was a Patreon member of BD for months, but like many, I pulled my support for a multitude of reasons. I've always enjoyed WVM, but I can only support a project whose dev I believe is a man of their word, keeps their promises, and puts out quality content on a scheduled release date (not that we need to see an update every single month, but keep it structured ie; every 3-6 months consistently). But the problem I've had with BD and I've also seen other people having with him is that BD isn't a man of his word. Going back to January, BD was saying we'd get a release of 1,500+ renders by February/March. Then the release got pushed back to early/mid March. By early March, the release was 1-2 weeks away. Then BD had no reason to believe the release wouldn't be in March and that would include between 2200-2400 renders. Then he says there won't be an update in March, but there will be one in April. Then mid April, still no update, but BD says the update will be over 2,000 renders. Then May comes around with no update still . But BD let's people know that one of his family members sadly passed away who he was caring for. Loosing a family member sucks and my heart goes out to him and he deserved to take some time to himself and his family as I previously mentioned, IRL should always be prioritized.

But he still continued down the same path that he's been going the prior 4+ months. He say's he won't be releasing the update in chucks and it would be a large update, yet in later posts, that's exactly his plan. Then we get the DILDO or whatever the hell it's called with Harper, truthfully I didn't even pay it any mind, but BD said it helped him get into a better mindset so I'm all for it. But then in late May, BD says he plans for 2-3 releases in June and that he wanted to have the entire update out by the end of July/early August. Then mid June, BD says the update would be 600-700 renders long. Note that months ago, he said the update was going to be 2.000+ renders. Months after saying that, he then says the update would be only a small fraction ie; 600-700 renders AND he would be releasing it in parts which he also previously said he WOULDN'T do. Late June he say's the release would be on June 29th and that he set out that month to update all of day 32 in 3 different updates... He then says the full update will take 5 different chunks to update entirely. Then lo and behold, the 700 render update isn't ready by June 29th or 30th. And as his record would show... theres no releases in June, but a very small 300 render on July 2nd. From January BD said he had over 1,000 renders ready for an update, to March having over 2,000 renders for the update, and then FINALLY to 6 months later and we only get a 300 render update is wild to me lol.

Braindrop has also said that this is a hobby which, at this point is a load of BS. He's said it himself that this is his job and he's worked 12+ hour days on WVM. This is his source of income as he's mentioned in his mindrops. WVM may have started as a hobby, but now, it's as BD said, HIS JOB! He earns between $8,000-$24,000 a month which averages out to $16,000 a month or $192,000 a year (

You must be registered to see the links

). Thats a FUCK LOAD of money for a single game dev to be making while producing little to no results. People aren't getting upset for absolutely no reason. So the problem people have with BD isn't that we don't enjoy WVM but we don't enjoy being fed false information. How does an update go from 1,000 renders, to 1,400 renders, to 2,000+ renders, to a 300 render update 6+ months after he told everyone he had over 2,000 renders? It's the breaking of his word that's pissing people off. We want to see honesty, but all we've seen have been false promises. How is it such a bad thing for BD to be held accountable? I can't understand how some people can defend this...

People want to see a dev keep their word. If a dev says "I have a 1,000 render update that will be ready to be released on 8/1/2022, we expect the dev to keep their word. Having a dev constantly pushing back the release date for MONTHS, not even a few days just to get some bugs sorted is repetitive and isn't a good look for the dev. And when the release FINALLY does come out we see that the update isn't even 1/4 of what the dev originally said it would be, just compounds onto the lack of trust that the dev has lost with the community.

I don't believe we'll see the remainder of the 2,000+ renders any time soon which is a real shame. In its infancy, WVM was one of the best games out there. I'd love to be proved wrong and hope I am, but based on BDs history, I sadly doubt there will be any updates any time soon...



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As far as the rest of Day 32 goes I plan to release it in the first week of July. The only tinkering I have to do to it is another scene in the locker room but it's not very large.
As for the rest of it, I plan on having 3 total releases afterwards. So a total of 5 chunks.
And when this update is completely out I plan on chunking out and doing the next update the same way.

I will not be releasing in chunks, it will be in one large update.

The update is over 2k renders of still images but if you count animation frames that I had to render... well it'd be in the tens of thousands and not the low end.

Day 10(31) is around 1400 renders long including the beta (It's by far the longest day after the redo, mainly due to me showing the process of a gameday so it can be assumed and not shown in future updates. It's also that long since I included scenes to make that gameday process more interesting )
The rest (Days 32-35) are about 1000 renders long so the update in total is around 2200-2400 renders long.

(Days 10-14 coming late Feb / early March)

So when can we expect it?
Assuming things go smoothly and as I expect them to then it will be either near the end of February - early March. If there's any mishaps then I'll let you guys know about it and then it'd likely be mid-March.
It will be between 1600-1800 renders.

So when can we expect it?
I was really racing to have it out before the end of February but the closer we come to it the quicker I realize it isn't very feasible since I want to send the update to testers before releasing it.
So right now my expectation is early March if everything goes right and mid March if there are any hiccups between now and then.

So when can we expect it?
Early-Mid March depending on if there are any issues that need to be fixed.

So when can we expect it?
It's at least a week away... maybe two if it takes a little longer than I expect it to.

Day 10(31) is around 1400 renders long including the beta (It's by far the longest day after the redo, mainly due to me showing the process of a gameday so it can be assumed and not shown in future updates. It's also that long since I included scenes to make that gameday process more interesting )
The rest (Days 32-35) are about 1000 renders long so the update in total is around 2200-2400 renders long.

IN THE EVENT it isn't out in March. (like I said, it should be and I fully believe it will but incase it isn't.) Which update path should I take?
(Day 10(31) is finished.

Release Day 10(31)(1400 renders) near the end of March if the rest isn't finished19%Wait and release it all at once in April if it isn't already finished81%

I do not intend to pause since I have honestly worked every single moment that was possible this month and that was almost always the case in other months that I've paused but now that I have a wife and kid and a house... I can't pour this amount of time into something and not have income for it anymore.

I'm not here for the money, I put as much effort and time as I do into it because it's my job but the truth is that if I didn't make a single penny from this, I'd continue making it just for myself. I love doing it.

I don't want to unpause pledges until I release the update but at the same time I don't know when that will be and I have a family to provide for.

I plan on having 2-3 releases in June and I want the whole update out by the end of July or early August.

(As it stands right now the first chunk will be in the 600-700 render range)

I also plan on having a second release this month. I do have to remake a scene for it since there's another in the room that changed but it shouldn't take me very long.

There will be a release on June 29th

Okay, long explanation just to say that I don't think the 700 render update will be ready by June 29th or 30th. But it won't be much longer at all. There is a 300 render update that's pretty much ready to go though.

WVM is my hobby and I do this for fun. Stressing this hard about updates and all that is the complete opposite of fun and I'll be honest when I say that I'm feeling pretty jaded about a lot of things and I desperately want to get past this. I want it out more than you do... is what I'm trying to say.

So the two options are.

A:
"Release them in smaller chunks. The first one (300-ish renders) on the 29th and the other (400-ish renders) the moment it is finished (Likely July 1st-3rd)"

or

B:
"Wait and release them together (700-ish renders) the moment it is finished. (July 1st-3rd)"

 

[Battle Brother Mac]

Then we get the DILDO or whatever the hell it's called

LMAO HAHAHAHAHA

 

[aaachris]

So I don't think that anyone has a problem with BD taking some time to himself to handle whatever he has going on IRL as it should always be prioritized over anything imo, especially the persons mental health. But to the people constantly defending BD, it just makes no sense at this point...

I was a Patreon member of BD for months, but like many, I pulled my support for a multitude of reasons. I've always enjoyed WVM, but I can only support a project whose dev I believe is a man of their word, keeps their promises, and puts out quality content on a scheduled release date (not that we need to see an update every single month, but keep it structured ie; every 3-6 months consistently). But the problem I've had with BD and I've also seen other people having with him is that BD isn't a man of his word. Going back to January, BD was saying we'd get a release of 1,500+ renders by February/March. Then the release got pushed back to early/mid March. By early March, the release was 1-2 weeks away. Then BD had no reason to believe the release wouldn't be in March and that would include between 2200-2400 renders. Then he says there won't be an update in March, but there will be one in April. Then mid April, still no update, but BD says the update will be over 2,000 renders. Then May comes around with no update still . But BD let's people know that one of his family members sadly passed away who he was caring for. Loosing a family member sucks and my heart goes out to him and he deserved to take some time to himself and his family as I previously mentioned, IRL should always be prioritized.

But he still continued down the same path that he's been going the prior 4+ months. He say's he won't be releasing the update in chucks and it would be a large update, yet in later posts, that's exactly his plan. Then we get the DILDO or whatever the hell it's called with Harper, truthfully I didn't even pay it any mind, but BD said it helped him get into a better mindset so I'm all for it. But then in late May, BD says he plans for 2-3 releases in June and that he wanted to have the entire update out by the end of July/early August. Then mid June, BD says the update would be 600-700 renders long. Note that months ago, he said the update was going to be 2.000+ renders. Months after saying that, he then says the update would be only a small fraction ie; 600-700 renders AND he would be releasing it in parts which he also previously said he WOULDN'T do. Late June he say's the release would be on June 29th and that he set out that month to update all of day 32 in 3 different updates... He then says the full update will take 5 different chunks to update entirely. Then lo and behold, the 700 render update isn't ready by June 29th or 30th. And as his record would show... theres no releases in June, but a very small 300 render on July 2nd. From January BD said he had over 1,000 renders ready for an update, to March having over 2,000 renders for the update, and then FINALLY to 6 months later and we only get a 300 render update is wild to me lol.

Braindrop has also said that this is a hobby which, at this point is a load of BS. He's said it himself that this is his job and he's worked 12+ hour days on WVM. This is his source of income as he's mentioned in his mindrops. WVM may have started as a hobby, but now, it's as BD said, HIS JOB! He earns between $8,000-$24,000 a month which averages out to $16,000 a month or $192,000 a year (

You must be registered to see the links

). Thats a FUCK LOAD of money for a single game dev to be making while producing little to no results. People aren't getting upset for absolutely no reason. So the problem people have with BD isn't that we don't enjoy WVM but we don't enjoy being fed false information. How does an update go from 1,000 renders, to 1,400 renders, to 2,000+ renders, to a 300 render update 6+ months after he told everyone he had over 2,000 renders? It's the breaking of his word that's pissing people off. We want to see honesty, but all we've seen have been false promises. How is it such a bad thing for BD to be held accountable? I can't understand how some people can defend this...

People want to see a dev keep their word. If a dev says "I have a 1,000 render update that will be ready to be released on 8/1/2022, we expect the dev to keep their word. Having a dev constantly pushing back the release date for MONTHS, not even a few days just to get some bugs sorted is repetitive and isn't a good look for the dev. And when the release FINALLY does come out we see that the update isn't even 1/4 of what the dev originally said it would be, just compounds onto the lack of trust that the dev has lost with the community.

I don't believe we'll see the remainder of the 2,000+ renders any time soon which is a real shame. In its infancy, WVM was one of the best games out there. I'd love to be proved wrong and hope I am, but based on BDs history, I sadly doubt there will be any updates any time soon...

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That's a real one. Anyone swearing on tooth fairy or their fap god that braindrop will come swinging next year with updates is delusional based on his track record past two year. No sane person can trust a guy taking 100k+ a year and come up short whenever it's delivery time and pull "it's my hobby" card. The ship has sailed on this one.

 

[CircaAD]

I really enjoyed this game. Harp is my new waifu. I just want MC to carry her around for the rest of the game. And Zoe's bliss should be a life goal for all the LIs. If the game continues, I'll be here for it. I don't think the MC would appreciate the level of negativity in this forum of late. He'd find a way to fix it for y'all.

 

[bluetack_man]

Honestly can't believe there hasn't been a crying post by now, explaining how the postman's friends cousin is poorly and how this has affected his release schedule.

 

[Steinchen]

it was more or less the same with Kyois and his game Reluctant Archon.More or less regular updates not as much as BD did,but in his pace it was regular.then it happend... More and more delays between new updates,more and more excuses and more and more time between them, and then one day he just stopped to show up and since then after a Vacation he just disappeared.
and that was over a year ago and no one heard of him since then....

but he was just starting to get on good tracks on pantreon with support for his game and then he was gone.....

 

[FatherTime-63]

Is it possible that BD and other Devs create a solid game with chapters in advance - release a chunk early on (holding some back) - then start a regular cycle - lure patrons in - slow the releases as they only have so many left - i dont know - I was an early Patreon to WMV - i remember regular on target releases - never wavering - always on time - then when the brakes started slowing the releases down, BAMM - they locked up shortly after

Not that it matters - and if people have disposable incomes - let them spend it how they want - perhaps someone can pick this project up and move it forward later on down the road - maybe that's what BD is waiting for - someone to offer him a buy out for his current cash cow - Elone Musk to the rescue?

But when you have people covering your back like this on discord - any real comments are just left in the ether

 

[StopMeIfYouCan]

So I don't think that anyone has a problem with BD taking some time to himself to handle whatever he has going on IRL as it should always be prioritized over anything imo, especially the persons mental health. But to the people constantly defending BD, it just makes no sense at this point...

I was a Patreon member of BD for months, but like many, I pulled my support for a multitude of reasons. I've always enjoyed WVM, but I can only support a project whose dev I believe is a man of their word, keeps their promises, and puts out quality content on a scheduled release date (not that we need to see an update every single month, but keep it structured ie; every 3-6 months consistently). But the problem I've had with BD and I've also seen other people having with him is that BD isn't a man of his word. Going back to January, BD was saying we'd get a release of 1,500+ renders by February/March. Then the release got pushed back to early/mid March. By early March, the release was 1-2 weeks away. Then BD had no reason to believe the release wouldn't be in March and that would include between 2200-2400 renders. Then he says there won't be an update in March, but there will be one in April. Then mid April, still no update, but BD says the update will be over 2,000 renders. Then May comes around with no update still . But BD let's people know that one of his family members sadly passed away who he was caring for. Loosing a family member sucks and my heart goes out to him and he deserved to take some time to himself and his family as I previously mentioned, IRL should always be prioritized.

But he still continued down the same path that he's been going the prior 4+ months. He say's he won't be releasing the update in chucks and it would be a large update, yet in later posts, that's exactly his plan. Then we get the DILDO or whatever the hell it's called with Harper, truthfully I didn't even pay it any mind, but BD said it helped him get into a better mindset so I'm all for it. But then in late May, BD says he plans for 2-3 releases in June and that he wanted to have the entire update out by the end of July/early August. Then mid June, BD says the update would be 600-700 renders long. Note that months ago, he said the update was going to be 2.000+ renders. Months after saying that, he then says the update would be only a small fraction ie; 600-700 renders AND he would be releasing it in parts which he also previously said he WOULDN'T do. Late June he say's the release would be on June 29th and that he set out that month to update all of day 32 in 3 different updates... He then says the full update will take 5 different chunks to update entirely. Then lo and behold, the 700 render update isn't ready by June 29th or 30th. And as his record would show... theres no releases in June, but a very small 300 render on July 2nd. From January BD said he had over 1,000 renders ready for an update, to March having over 2,000 renders for the update, and then FINALLY to 6 months later and we only get a 300 render update is wild to me lol.

Braindrop has also said that this is a hobby which, at this point is a load of BS. He's said it himself that this is his job and he's worked 12+ hour days on WVM. This is his source of income as he's mentioned in his mindrops. WVM may have started as a hobby, but now, it's as BD said, HIS JOB! He earns between $8,000-$24,000 a month which averages out to $16,000 a month or $192,000 a year (

You must be registered to see the links

). Thats a FUCK LOAD of money for a single game dev to be making while producing little to no results. People aren't getting upset for absolutely no reason. So the problem people have with BD isn't that we don't enjoy WVM but we don't enjoy being fed false information. How does an update go from 1,000 renders, to 1,400 renders, to 2,000+ renders, to a 300 render update 6+ months after he told everyone he had over 2,000 renders? It's the breaking of his word that's pissing people off. We want to see honesty, but all we've seen have been false promises. How is it such a bad thing for BD to be held accountable? I can't understand how some people can defend this...

People want to see a dev keep their word. If a dev says "I have a 1,000 render update that will be ready to be released on 8/1/2022, we expect the dev to keep their word. Having a dev constantly pushing back the release date for MONTHS, not even a few days just to get some bugs sorted is repetitive and isn't a good look for the dev. And when the release FINALLY does come out we see that the update isn't even 1/4 of what the dev originally said it would be, just compounds onto the lack of trust that the dev has lost with the community.

I don't believe we'll see the remainder of the 2,000+ renders any time soon which is a real shame. In its infancy, WVM was one of the best games out there. I'd love to be proved wrong and hope I am, but based on BDs history, I sadly doubt there will be any updates any time soon...

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Signed by me.

This is the what I have been saying for months. Finally someone else poking the eyes of the harem members with truth.

 

[Wen I Say]

Honestly can't believe there hasn't been a crying post by now, explaining how the postman's friends cousin is poorly and how this has affected his release schedule.

What can one say when people are hip to their bullshit.

 

[taylorg88]

So I don't think that anyone has a problem with BD taking some time to himself to handle whatever he has going on IRL as it should always be prioritized over anything imo, especially the persons mental health. But to the people constantly defending BD, it just makes no sense at this point...

I was a Patreon member of BD for months, but like many, I pulled my support for a multitude of reasons. I've always enjoyed WVM, but I can only support a project whose dev I believe is a man of their word, keeps their promises, and puts out quality content on a scheduled release date (not that we need to see an update every single month, but keep it structured ie; every 3-6 months consistently). But the problem I've had with BD and I've also seen other people having with him is that BD isn't a man of his word. Going back to January, BD was saying we'd get a release of 1,500+ renders by February/March. Then the release got pushed back to early/mid March. By early March, the release was 1-2 weeks away. Then BD had no reason to believe the release wouldn't be in March and that would include between 2200-2400 renders. Then he says there won't be an update in March, but there will be one in April. Then mid April, still no update, but BD says the update will be over 2,000 renders. Then May comes around with no update still . But BD let's people know that one of his family members sadly passed away who he was caring for. Loosing a family member sucks and my heart goes out to him and he deserved to take some time to himself and his family as I previously mentioned, IRL should always be prioritized.

But he still continued down the same path that he's been going the prior 4+ months. He say's he won't be releasing the update in chucks and it would be a large update, yet in later posts, that's exactly his plan. Then we get the DILDO or whatever the hell it's called with Harper, truthfully I didn't even pay it any mind, but BD said it helped him get into a better mindset so I'm all for it. But then in late May, BD says he plans for 2-3 releases in June and that he wanted to have the entire update out by the end of July/early August. Then mid June, BD says the update would be 600-700 renders long. Note that months ago, he said the update was going to be 2.000+ renders. Months after saying that, he then says the update would be only a small fraction ie; 600-700 renders AND he would be releasing it in parts which he also previously said he WOULDN'T do. Late June he say's the release would be on June 29th and that he set out that month to update all of day 32 in 3 different updates... He then says the full update will take 5 different chunks to update entirely. Then lo and behold, the 700 render update isn't ready by June 29th or 30th. And as his record would show... theres no releases in June, but a very small 300 render on July 2nd. From January BD said he had over 1,000 renders ready for an update, to March having over 2,000 renders for the update, and then FINALLY to 6 months later and we only get a 300 render update is wild to me lol.

Braindrop has also said that this is a hobby which, at this point is a load of BS. He's said it himself that this is his job and he's worked 12+ hour days on WVM. This is his source of income as he's mentioned in his mindrops. WVM may have started as a hobby, but now, it's as BD said, HIS JOB! He earns between $8,000-$24,000 a month which averages out to $16,000 a month or $192,000 a year (

You must be registered to see the links

). Thats a FUCK LOAD of money for a single game dev to be making while producing little to no results. People aren't getting upset for absolutely no reason. So the problem people have with BD isn't that we don't enjoy WVM but we don't enjoy being fed false information. How does an update go from 1,000 renders, to 1,400 renders, to 2,000+ renders, to a 300 render update 6+ months after he told everyone he had over 2,000 renders? It's the breaking of his word that's pissing people off. We want to see honesty, but all we've seen have been false promises. How is it such a bad thing for BD to be held accountable? I can't understand how some people can defend this...

People want to see a dev keep their word. If a dev says "I have a 1,000 render update that will be ready to be released on 8/1/2022, we expect the dev to keep their word. Having a dev constantly pushing back the release date for MONTHS, not even a few days just to get some bugs sorted is repetitive and isn't a good look for the dev. And when the release FINALLY does come out we see that the update isn't even 1/4 of what the dev originally said it would be, just compounds onto the lack of trust that the dev has lost with the community.

I don't believe we'll see the remainder of the 2,000+ renders any time soon which is a real shame. In its infancy, WVM was one of the best games out there. I'd love to be proved wrong and hope I am, but based on BDs history, I sadly doubt there will be any updates any time soon...

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Nailed it on the head and even brought receipts. Looking through all of the mind drop posts it's crazy just how much he's lied about in the past 7 months. No one should be giving this guy a dime until he can build up his reputation again. Which would just be putting your head down, doing your job (because that's what it is to him) and getting updates out. Stop whining, stop pushing deadlines back, stop with the polls. Do that for a couple of updates and he can get his credibility back.

 

[Wen I Say]

Y'all irk my soul, all most of you do is joke and complain as if you could do what Braindrop is doing, and you mask it as if you're just being critical of his hesitance when in actuality, you're being ignorant by making light of a serious situation because you can be on the other side of your screens. People have literally killed themselves over things like this but none of that matters to most of you all because all you want is to sit and play your game most of you are getting for free. Half of you can barely formulate a sentence let alone a complete story for a VN but let's judge the people who are actually out here putting in the work to do so for your entertainment because they may or may not have some personal issues that don't sit right with you....If you want to show a creator that they are doing wrong you don't have to belittle them and be dickish about it! Stopping your support is enough if something doesn't sit right with you but if you're just going to continue to wait for the product like we all know you are why not do it while having a shred of decency?

........Que? Nani the fuck are you talking about no one here has said or committed any party fouls if you wanna white knight put your BD knee pads on and have a go. If you wanna take his word on faith that's your choice but equally if people call bullshit that's their choice so sit down. Your soul irked? well you know where the door is no one is keeping you here or forcing you to return, decency ain't got shit to do with it where's BD's decency? When homeboy was AWOL for 11 months still making his money chilling and having people defend his fuckery. No one is out here saying he's kicking back dappin up granddad but let's be 100% honest this is a pattern of behavior dude got caught fibbing so he's now labeled as untrustworthy that simple you act like you were born today. Stress yea I can see him being slightly irritated working from home and making a cool 100+k(sarcasm if you couldn't tell) dude makes enough money that any shrink would write him a script for ANYTHING if he really wanted help so please miss me with all that bullshit.

 

[StantheMan69]

(Being Sarcastic) Gentlemen and Ladies, BD has a family to support! He can not sit at his computer for 8 hours and work on his VN. How can you even suggest such a thing? This is a hobby! He needs to be there for his family. Take them to dinner and buy them nice things. That takes up time everyone. What would happen to his family, if he worked on his VN for 8 hours a day like it was a job? Can you imagine the horrors that could befall them? I don't even want to think about it. We all should go become BD's top tier supporters on Patreon. That way we will never have to find out the answer to that. LOL I wouldn't expect anything in regards to an update for a long, long, time. Best chance we got to see any kind of regular updates again. Is when his supporters have finally had their fill of his shit and stop backing him. To the point he has to go out looking for work, so he can support his family. Then and only then might he actually start working on his game and put out updates. After all he would have to try and build back the supporters. So he can continue to support his family on a hobby.

 

[OctoSky]

(Being Sarcastic) Gentlemen and Ladies, BD has a family to support! He can not sit at his computer for 8 hours and work on his VN. How can you even suggest such a thing? This is a hobby! He needs to be there for his family. Take them to dinner and buy them nice things. That takes up time everyone. What would happen to his family, if he worked on his VN for 8 hours a day like it was a job? Can you imagine the horrors that could befall them? I don't even want to think about it. We all should go become BD's top tier supporters on Patreon. That way we will never have to find out the answer to that. LOL I wouldn't expect anything in regards to an update for a long, long, time. Best chance we got to see any kind of regular updates again. Is when his supporters have finally had their fill of his shit and stop backing him. To the point he has to go out looking for work, so he can support his family. Then and only then might he actually start working on his game and put out updates. After all he would have to try and build back the supporters. So he can continue to support his family on a hobby.

Its been proven with math, science, and the dream I had while on LSD that if he worked on it for 8 hours per day his family would turn into cannibals to survive. Its true. Not lying. If you add the squares on a checkerboard and then times that number by 12 then divide it by 9 and 3/4 it'll spell out mouthwash, which means. . . cannibals. Its science.

 

[Jethro Hatfield]

It's nice to see that even when I forget to check this thread for a week, I haven't missed anything of particular consequence. People still complaining about Brain's Milking, and saying that they're done with this game... yet continue to stick around and complain, telling those that support Braindrop that they think we're wasting our money... News flash, it's our money to do with as we please.

Seriously. It's refreshing to see that the more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[Havoc_313]

........Que? Nani the fuck are you talking about no one here has said or committed any party fouls if you wanna white knight put your BD knee pads on and have a go. If you wanna take his word on faith that's your choice but equally if people call bullshit that's their choice so sit down. Your soul irked? well you know where the door is no one is keeping you here or forcing you to return, decency ain't got shit to do with it where's BD's decency? When homeboy was AWOL for 11 months still making his money chilling and having people defend his fuckery. No one is out here saying he's kicking back dappin up granddad but let's be 100% honest this is a pattern of behavior dude got caught fibbing so he's now labeled as untrustworthy that simple you act like you were born today. Stress yea I can see him being slightly irritated working from home and making a cool 100+k(sarcasm if you couldn't tell) dude makes enough money that any shrink would write him a script for ANYTHING if he really wanted help so please miss me with all that bullshit.

knee pads...how cute. Not once in my little rant did I say or imply I believed every word said by BD but I won't pretend to know what's going on at home for BD nor will I pretend I know what's going through his head at any given moment because I'm simply an outsider like all of you here waiting for what's next from him. I said it once and I'll say it again, there's holding someone accountable for there actions and there's being an asshat because you're upset or your feelings are hurt and I'm not speaking of any one person specifically here. No two people deal with loss or stress the same way and therapy and meds are not always the answer, I myself can attest to that. If you want to be mad at someone gaming the system you have to take that up with the folks allowing it to happen because the only way someone can continue making that money without results is because folks are still shelling out the paper to allow them to. You can toss whatever insult you want my way, I've already faced my bottom head on and no one on the internet is going to push me any lower than that but I'm a strong believer in not punching down on someone who's already down.

 

[jasont123]

A follow up to my previous message and a timeline of development of WVM.

So I don't think that anyone has a problem with BD taking some time to himself to handle whatever he has going on IRL as it should always be prioritized over anything imo, especially the persons mental health. But to the people constantly defending BD, it just makes no sense at this point...

I was a Patreon member of BD for months, but like many, I pulled my support for a multitude of reasons. I've always enjoyed WVM, but I can only support a project whose dev I believe is a man of their word, keeps their promises, and puts out quality content on a scheduled release date (not that we need to see an update every single month, but keep it structured ie; every 3-6 months consistently). But the problem I've had with BD and I've also seen other people having with him is that BD isn't a man of his word. Going back to January, BD was saying we'd get a release of 1,500+ renders by February/March. Then the release got pushed back to early/mid March. By early March, the release was 1-2 weeks away. Then BD had no reason to believe the release wouldn't be in March and that would include between 2200-2400 renders. Then he says there won't be an update in March, but there will be one in April. Then mid April, still no update, but BD says the update will be over 2,000 renders. Then May comes around with no update still . But BD let's people know that one of his family members sadly passed away who he was caring for. Loosing a family member sucks and my heart goes out to him and he deserved to take some time to himself and his family as I previously mentioned, IRL should always be prioritized.

But he still continued down the same path that he's been going the prior 4+ months. He say's he won't be releasing the update in chucks and it would be a large update, yet in later posts, that's exactly his plan. Then we get the DILDO or whatever the hell it's called with Harper, truthfully I didn't even pay it any mind, but BD said it helped him get into a better mindset so I'm all for it. But then in late May, BD says he plans for 2-3 releases in June and that he wanted to have the entire update out by the end of July/early August. Then mid June, BD says the update would be 600-700 renders long. Note that months ago, he said the update was going to be 2.000+ renders. Months after saying that, he then says the update would be only a small fraction ie; 600-700 renders AND he would be releasing it in parts which he also previously said he WOULDN'T do. Late June he say's the release would be on June 29th and that he set out that month to update all of day 32 in 3 different updates... He then says the full update will take 5 different chunks to update entirely. Then lo and behold, the 700 render update isn't ready by June 29th or 30th. And as his record would show... theres no releases in June, but a very small 300 render on July 2nd. From January BD said he had over 1,000 renders ready for an update, to March having over 2,000 renders for the update, and then FINALLY to 6 months later and we only get a 300 render update is wild to me lol.

Braindrop has also said that this is a hobby which, at this point is a load of BS. He's said it himself that this is his job and he's worked 12+ hour days on WVM. This is his source of income as he's mentioned in his mindrops. WVM may have started as a hobby, but now, it's as BD said, HIS JOB! He earns between $8,000-$24,000 a month which averages out to $16,000 a month or $192,000 a year (

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). Thats a FUCK LOAD of money for a single game dev to be making while producing little to no results. People aren't getting upset for absolutely no reason. So the problem people have with BD isn't that we don't enjoy WVM but we don't enjoy being fed false information. How does an update go from 1,000 renders, to 1,400 renders, to 2,000+ renders, to a 300 render update 6+ months after he told everyone he had over 2,000 renders? It's the breaking of his word that's pissing people off. We want to see honesty, but all we've seen have been false promises. How is it such a bad thing for BD to be held accountable? I can't understand how some people can defend this...

People want to see a dev keep their word. If a dev says "I have a 1,000 render update that will be ready to be released on 8/1/2022, we expect the dev to keep their word. Having a dev constantly pushing back the release date for MONTHS, not even a few days just to get some bugs sorted is repetitive and isn't a good look for the dev. And when the release FINALLY does come out we see that the update isn't even 1/4 of what the dev originally said it would be, just compounds onto the lack of trust that the dev has lost with the community.

I don't believe we'll see the remainder of the 2,000+ renders any time soon which is a real shame. In its infancy, WVM was one of the best games out there. I'd love to be proved wrong and hope I am, but based on BDs history, I sadly doubt there will be any updates any time soon...

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Update | 1/22/21 - WVM Day 8-9 (9.3.0) (203 Renders

Update | 1/31/21 - WVM Day 8-9 (0.9.4.2) (200 renders) (SAVE FIX)

Mind Drop #11 | 2/16/21 - "one release this month. But, that release will be the size of two updates (400 renders) near the end of the month."

Mind Drop #12 | 2/23/21 - No update this month due to BD moving. "Next update will be on March 13th and the second update will be on March 27th. (First update will be 400 renders + the reworked scenes, the second will be 260-300 renders)"

Mind Drop #13 | 3/01/21 - Dev still moving in. "Update near the 13th"

Continuation of Mind drop #13 | 3/2/21 - Gives an update schedule: "Most full updates will be between 800-1200 renders. So given my expectations for myself and the private timelines I'd give myself you can expect 2-3 months per update. (Also some updates would be shorter so potentially only 1 month for some). The next full update after day 9 will be days 10-14. Then after that will be week 3. And in the event that an update exceeds that timeframe I'd likely release it in 2 parts. I wouldn't go more than 3 months without a release. Potentially less."

Mind Drop #14 | 3/08/21 - "400 render update will be sliding to the 17th-20th"

Mind Drop #15 | 3/16/21 - "400 render update releases March 20th, rest of Day 9 will release mid-April". Says "I don't do this for money" and pauses pledges for March/April

Mind Drop #16 | 3/23/21 - BD having issues with his eyes. "Update will be out ASAP but it will be a few more days. No exact timeline as I had honestly hoped my eyes would be back to normal by now. Check out the earlier post to see why the update isn't ready yet. Due to the additional days I'll pull another homie move and bump the update to 600 renders mainly because I feel shitty about this situation, especially since it was easily avoidable."

Mind Drop #18 | 4/06/21 - "I've decided to focus on releasing the rest of day 9 as a single update. This update is north of 1000 renders and has many animations"

Mind Drop #19 | 4/13/21 - "Full day 9 release is still planned for this month". "And you guys are about to get a 1000+ render update dropped on your head"

Mind Drop #21 | 5/03/21 (Not quite yet) - Missed release date. "Update is close and I'm still grinding away on it, I just need more time."

Mind Drop #22 | 5/11/21 Almost - "There's been many things like planning a wedding, planning to be a father, moving across the country, changing how I want to do releases, and dealing with a medical issue with my eyes for an entire month". "This is honestly 100% the last post until the the juicy 1500+ render update."

Yo | 5/29/21 - Getting married/moving. Paused pledges

Yo | 6/17/21 - On honeymoon. "I do slightly regret giving the hard date of the 24th as that seems like a short amount of time".

Update | 7/3/21 - WVM Day 8-9 (0.9.5.1) (1800 renders) (35 animations)

Mind Drop #23 | 7/14/21 - "The next full update will be days 10-14. Which can sound daunting considering the latter half of day 9 took 5 months to make".

Mind Drop #26 | 8/09/21 - "I never plan to give exact release dates ever again or even exact sizes of updates even if it isn't an official release and just a beta."

Mind Drop #27 | 8/20/21 - "I will say that the first beta will be a smaller one and it should be out soon but it will not be in August".

Mind Drop #29 | 9/10/21 - "I've decided to go light on the first beta release. It's only going to be 200 renders long.
(I've done much more than 200 renders but I stopped working linearly a while ago. Meaning I don't work in the same order of the story, for instance I've completely finished day 13 but still have a lot to do on day 11.)(And for those that don't know, the next "full release" is going to be days 10-14 and the days go by much quicker. Although day 10 is a bit longer just because of the exhibition game). The exhibition won't be featured in the first beta but it will be the last release without a basketball game lol. So when will that be? Late Sept - Early Oct"

Mind Drop #33 | 10/08/21 - "Change to first beta date: - It's moving from October 12th to October 15th at 3pm EST".

Update | 10/15/21 - WVM Day 10 (0.10.0.1)(BETA) (208 renders - 0 animations)

Mind Drop #34 | 10/18/21 - "Next Beta? (ETA: Early November)"

Not a mind drop | 11/8/21 - BD spending time taking care of his family. "There will be a beta this month 100%. It's essentially ready outside of a few tweaks. I just don't want to release until I'm in a position to work on any issues if any were to arise but in the case that things are extended then I'd run that risk. 300-350 renders long, haven't decided the exact stop point yet".

Still not a mind drop | 11/28/21 - BDs a father! "There will not be a beta this month. I've thought about it a lot and even though the update itself is ready... I'm not. Simply put I'm not in a position mentally to push anything out. Things are still settling in my personal life and I couldn't handle any issues with a release right now. Not setting any dates yet but there will be 2 betas in December".

Mind Drop #36 | 12/03/21 - "Upcoming Releases: - 2nd beta (December 14th - 24th). - 3rd beta (January 6th). - Full release of days 10-14 (Febuary 14th)".

Mind Drop #38 | 12/17/21 - "Betas: No planned changes to dates atm". "February 14th is still the planned release date for the full release of days 10-14".

24th to 30th | 12/23/21 - "I'm gonna just say it how it is, I need to move the release date to the 30th. It will not move again".

Taking the L | 12/30/21 - "All of that to essentially say I am not ready to put out an update and I'm sorry. I wish I was, trust me". "I will be pausing pledges for this monthly cycle. I gave reasons for why I didn't last month and while those things are still true, I'm not comfortable doing it 2 months in a row. This might make me sound crazy but with where I am at this very moment, for my own mental health I'd rather say goodbye to 15 grand than push out this update".

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Mind Drop #39 | 1/25/22 - "Update soon™. I'm aiming to put out a smaller update that's beta sized (probably 250-350 renders) either before this month ends or at the start of February".

Mind Drop #40 | 1/31/22 - "(Days 10-14 coming late Feb / early March)".

Mind Drop #41 | 2/11/22 - "Assuming things go smoothly and as I expect them to then it will be either near the end of February-early March. If there's any mishaps then I'll let you guys know about it and then it'd likely be mid-March.
It will be between 1600-1800 renders".

Mind Drop #42 | 2/18/22 - "I was really racing to have it out before the end of February but the closer we come to it the quicker I realize it isn't very feasible since I want to send the update to testers before releasing it.
So right now my expectation is early March if everything goes right and mid March if there are any hiccups between now and then". "How long will the wait between Days 10-14 and Days 15-21 be? - The very early expectation I have is around 2-2.5 months. A big reason Days 10-14 has taken as long as it has is that I've made many scenes that have been moved to later in the story. So I have a pretty substantial head start on days 15-21 and a similar head start on days 22-28".

Not a Mind Drop | 2/25/22 - "So when can we expect it? Early-Mid March depending on if there are any issues that need to be fixed".

Not a Mind Drop... again | 3/05/22 - "So when can we expect it? It's at least a week away... maybe two if it takes a little longer than I expect it to".

No news is good news... and this is news | 3/18/22 - "Day 10(31) is around 1400 renders long including the beta (It's by far the longest day after the redo, mainly due to me showing the process of a gameday so it can be assumed and not shown in future updates. It's also that long since I included scenes to make that gameday process more interesting )
The rest (Days 32-35) are about 1000 renders long so the update in total is around 2200-2400 renders long".

Update will be in April and I do not plan on pausing, please adjust pledges accordingly | 3/31/22 - "Hey guys, just a quick update to let you guys know that I won't be able to finish the update this month". "It doesn't matter if the update is 2400 renders long and the biggest I've ever put out. The wait has been entirely too long and I completely understand where the frustration has come from". "I'm not here for the money, I put as much effort and time as I do into it because it's my job but the truth is that if I didn't make a single penny from this, I'd continue making it just for myself. I love doing it".

Mind Drop #44 | 4/03/22 (Not #43, the update isn't ready for that yet) - "What's delaying it now dev wise? The honest answer is there's a lot of indecisiveness on my end". "In February me, my wife, my kid, and my grandpa all had to pack up and move again because of some weird events happening at our new house at the time. (That started early January)".

Yo | 5/3/22 - BD family member passed away so he took some time for himself and his family

My current plan | 5/16/22 - "There are no release plans for the update yet". "I don't want to unpause pledges until I release the update but at the same time I don't know when that will be and I have a family to provide for."

Harper DILTO Release | 5/29/22

Plans for June | 5/31/22 - "Also the DITLO was something I had promised to make a long time ago. And it felt really good to make. It wasn't some ulterior motive thing to justify working on something outside of WVM. It was just something that I knew might help me get out of the funk I've been in". "I plan on having 2-3 releases in June and I want the whole update out by the end of July or early August. And when it's finally all out I plan on continuing with the chunks of update into the next big update".

Yo | 6/13/22 - "As it stands right now the first chunk will be in the 600-700 render range"

Mind Drop #47 | 6/24/22 - "There will be a release on June 29th". "As far as the rest of Day 32 goes I plan to release it in the first week of July. The only tinkering I have to do to it is another scene in the locker room but it's not very large. As for the rest of it, I plan on having 3 total releases afterwards. So a total of 5 chunks".

Sup | 6/28/22 - "I don't think the 700 render update will be ready by June 29th or 30th. But it won't be much longer at all. There is a 300 render update that's pretty much ready to go though". "WVM is my hobby and I do this for fun". "
So the two options are: A. Release them in smaller chunks - The first one (300-ish renders) on the 29th and the other (400-ish renders) the moment it is finished (Likely July 1st-3rd), or B. Wait and release them together (700-ish renders) the moment it is finished. (July 1st-3rd)". (B won btw)

Update | 6/2/22 - WVM (S2-C1-E1) release! (359 renders 10-ish animations)

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So... On 2/11/22, BD said that day 10-14 was originally planned to be released February 14th and was supposed to include 1600-1800 renders. Soon after on 3/18/22, BD said, "Day 10(31) is around 1400 renders long including the beta, (Days 32-35) are about 1000 renders long so the update in total is around 2200-2400 renders long". So he had over 2,000 renders ready 4 months ago yet we only get a 350 render update???

BD says this is his job on 3/31/21, "I'm not here for the money, I put as much effort and time as I do into it because it's my job but the truth is that if I didn't make a single penny from this, I'd continue making it just for myself. I love doing it". Yet on 6/28/22 he says "WVM is my hobby and I do this for fun". Making on average of $16,000 a month or $192,000 a year is an insane amount of money. That's around 3 times the average salary of a person in the United States. Just to put it in perspective how much money that actually is for the average person:
(I couldn't find a more up to date chart). Thankfully BD has paused his patreon on multiple occasions, but $16,000 for even a few months out of the year is a lot of money for producing LITTLE TO NOTHING.

So the math is laid out for anyone defending him. Yes the man has gone through some shit and my heart goes out to him for said 'shit'... But how exactly do you justify 2200-2400 renders FOUR MONTHS AGO to having a 350 render update? Thats 15% of the work he said he had completed months ago! Where's the remaining 2,000 renders? BD has broken his word time and time again, how can people continue to say it's justified? Shits wack

 

[Kell1421]

briandrop now this comment is not throwing hate or anything like that, I follow your wvm project since its inception and it's a fucking great game you deserve recognition for it.
The only thing I recommend you and it's better that you don't release small updates or leave some comment about the updates when they have reduced content so to speak, many of us are waiting to see the end of the work since it's unique and original.
Keep up the good work and we hope to see more.

Briandrop, as Luciano fucking says, a big update is better or then you don't take anything out anymore