mcmundo

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I dont know about his personal life, but everyone has to work in life and everyone has their own problems. Im working 9-12h per day normally (i got my job, and work on presonal projects appart), and if i stop producing, my boss probably got me fired, like every company (which is normal).

What i mean to say, its that the update its no enought. Last update was on october, near to 10 months of work to produce 400 renders (mostly with resorces already created, i mean you dont have to draw every face on every render) wich is about 15/20 min of gameplay... if you produce that working to any company, you get fired. And its not only about the quantity, but also quality because while the renders quality are being better (supposedly) seems that the narrative and history has a lot of non-senses. I prefeer a good narrative and history than a Full HD, 4K, 8K HDR Hyper Mega Quality renders, but its just my opinion and this can vary from every player. But it has non sense to me, make a remake (graphically speaking) when you dont even end your game....

Thats why im stop being patreon. Because his liyng to every patreon when he says that is close to release the update every single month.

There is a lot of companys having this problem, promising updates in their games that never come or when they come its seem like a Joke. I just like to remember, that even though there is no game directy selled, its not free either. We all pay (or paid previously) a lot in suscriptions, so even if hi is not selling the game directly, he need to take this as a real job.
 
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maxrevenge

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I dont know about his personal life, but everyone has to work in life and everyone has their own problems. Im working 9-12h per day normally (i got my job, and work on presonal projects appart), and if i stop producing, my boss probably got me fired, like every company (which is normal).

What i mean to say, its that the update its no enought. Last update was on october, near to 10 months of work to produce 400 renders (mostly with resorces already created, i mean you dont have to draw every face on every render) wich is about 15/20 min of gameplay... if you produce that working to any company, you get fired. And its not only about the quantity, but also quality because while the renders quality are being better (supposedly) seems that the narrative and history has a lot of non-senses. In prefeer a good narrative and history than a Full HD, 4K, 8K HDR Hyper Mega Quality renders, but its just my opinion and this can vary from every player. But it has non sense to me, make a remake (graphically speaking) when you dont even end your game....

Thats why im stop being patreon. Because his liyng to every patreon when he says that is close to release the update every single month.

There is a lot of companys having this problem, promising updates in their games that never come or when they come its seem like a Joke. I just like to remember, that even though there is no game directy selled, its not free either. We all pay (or paid previously) a lot in suscriptions, so even if hi is not selling the game directly, he need to take this as a real job.
True, life isn't easy for most of us. But if he's making money for his project, this is not a hobby anymore and it's his least responsibility to update the game for his patreons. Even though he could be having a hard time in life at this moment... Well, who doesn't? No need to curse him or anything, just stop supporting him, It's how the real world works.
 

mitymity

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I dont know about his personal life, but everyone has to work in life and everyone has their own problems. Im working 9-12h per day normally (i got my job, and work on presonal projects appart), and if i stop producing, my boss probably got me fired, like every company (which is normal).

What i mean to say, its that the update its no enought. Last update was on october, near to 10 months of work to produce 400 renders (mostly with resorces already created, i mean you dont have to draw every face on every render) wich is about 15/20 min of gameplay... if you produce that working to any company, you get fired. And its not only about the quantity, but also quality because while the renders quality are being better (supposedly) seems that the narrative and history has a lot of non-senses. I prefeer a good narrative and history than a Full HD, 4K, 8K HDR Hyper Mega Quality renders, but its just my opinion and this can vary from every player. But it has non sense to me, make a remake (graphically speaking) when you dont even end your game....

Thats why im stop being patreon. Because his liyng to every patreon when he says that is close to release the update every single month.

There is a lot of companys having this problem, promising updates in their games that never come or when they come its seem like a Joke. I just like to remember, that even though there is no game directy selled, its not free either. We all pay (or paid previously) a lot in suscriptions, so even if hi is not selling the game directly, he need to take this as a real job.
Just tell your boss you mentally aren't capable of handing over the finished work and they'll understand and tell you to take your time while still being paid 100%. Maybe ask the secretary and cleaning lady on their opinion if you should give the boss all the work at once or split into chucks like a little every month. Oh yeah also from time to time just don't come to work for a couple of weeks straight and don't answer any phone calls from work, this is all fine too. That's how the world works, right?
 

BTLD

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Sep 18, 2017
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Most places I've worked say "three days no show and no call" the company will assume you quit and will send your last check.
so.... BD should fire himself?
haha :))) nice one
also why do people keep forgetting that while some of you might pay (highly doubt there's any of you that pay but for the sake of the discussion) you are not entitled to anything, you(general you) donating does not get you anything except a earlier release of any updates
Only thing you (again, general you) can do , is stop your payment if you disagree with what is going on and doubting him that he told the truth about what is going on.
 
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mcmundo

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so.... BD should fire himself?
haha :))) nice one
also why do people keep forgetting that while some of you might pay (highly doubt there's any of you that pay but for the sake of the discussion) you are not entitled to anything, you(general you) donating does not get you anything except a earlier release of any updates
Only thing you (again, general you) can do , is stop your payment if you disagree with what is going on and doubting him that he told the truth about what is going on.
You know that Patreon pledges are not like donations, its a service what creators offer there. So he is getting payed to bring that service to their users. He has the responsability, to keep working on his product while getting payed in Patreon.

And of course everyone its free to remove the membership, the same way everyone its free to get a refund of a game on steam if the product is not what the creator sell. But this doesnt mean that people cant complain, because its what we pay.

Ive been supporting him since 2019, thats means more money that you can spend on any AAA game, so sorry for being upset due to lack of content and false promises...

And dont take this post as a blame to Braindrop (he may be a wonderfull person) but against his "company/bussiness" methods. I cant blame him if hes not feeling in a good mental state to work, but that cant affect your product or service like any company. And if it goint affect your service, you must take steps to solve the problem either pausing pledges as he do a lot of times or hiring employees that keep working while you cant. Im not the one to say what he must do, but he need do do something besides promising that update every month...
 
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jonnyd901

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Stop whining, stop pushing deadlines back, stop with the polls.
That's biggest problem is the polls either gives him a bit of leeway or the results don't happen anyway. Like you said just carrying on developing it keep people informed of the game,give teasers to keep people interested then only announce an update when you think you it would be ready. There are plenty of other games which are still waiting for updates but the way those devs have handled it the patreons are excited for the release. Ghosting will only make things worse
 

kameohawk

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That's biggest problem is the polls either gives him a bit of leeway or the results don't happen anyway. Like you said just carrying on developing it keep people informed of the game,give teasers to keep people interested then only announce an update when you think you it would be ready. There are plenty of other games which are still waiting for updates but the way those devs have handled it the patreons are excited for the release. Ghosting will only make things worse
100% this. I'm not backing a game that's amazing if the Dev is a fucking ghost. Or rather, once I realise the Dev's at it I'm gone. You should give money to promote a Dev. 100%, That doesn't however mean he can milk you like a simp just because he happens to create computer porn you sorta enjoy.
 

YepperCause

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WVM is on the same path as Milfy City. Disappointing, but not surprising. ICSTOR and Braindrop, the Batman and Robin of Chernobyl.
People are understandably upset with Braindrop for letting his story lose focus, for having few updates and seemingly lying about the status of upcoming releases. But, comparing him to ICSTOR seems premature. ICSTOR has not had a single update to Milfy City in over a year. Braindrop had a decently sized update to WVM this month.
 

jish55

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People are understandably upset with Braindrop for letting his story lose focus, for having few updates and seemingly lying about the status of upcoming releases. But, comparing him to ICSTOR seems premature. ICSTOR has not had a single update to Milfy City in over a year. Braindrop had a decently sized update to WVM this month.
It's not just those issues, the bigger issue is that every time he has to delay an update, something apparently always seems to happen to his real life. It's gotten to the point it no longer seems genuine and it seems more like he's coming up with fake stories to get sympathy from people while changing promises he made in the process. In a way, if BD is lying and half the stuff he's claimed about what's going on in real life turns out to be fake, that'll be even worse than ICSTOR.
 

BTLD

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oh noes people are complaining that they don't get for free a product, or how big that product is, or when it's delivered.
"I'm not complaining that I don't get it for free, I'm complaining that .. yea , he said he release and he doesn't , guys lets start boo-ing him, boo , gief me for free, boo, I deserve since I'm a user here, boo"
hahahahha
I swear you people are really funny.
Keep up the good work guys, you're really making me laugh.
 

StantheMan69

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It's not just those issues, the bigger issue is that every time he has to delay an update, something apparently always seems to happen to his real life. It's gotten to the point it no longer seems genuine and it seems more like he's coming up with fake stories to get sympathy from people while changing promises he made in the process. In a way, if BD is lying and half the stuff he's claimed about what's going on in real life turns out to be fake, that'll be even worse than ICSTOR.
I agree right now it seem like BD is working harder on coming up with excuses to delay the game then he is on the game. Also if he is making a living off his game. He should be making progress on his game. We all can understand shit happens in life, but there is a lot of people that still have to work. While they deal with the shit life throws their way. Its starting to feel like BD just wanting a free ride and do no work.
 
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