I have no trouble accepting there are people who disagree with me. But haters dogpile anyone who has even a remotely appreciative opinion.I completely agree we should do this with everything even things irl. So no one has to hear an opinion that differs from their own.
Discussion would actually be cool here, but that doesn't happen. It's fine though you're literally a moderator here and if you think this thread is acceptable I'm not gonna accomplish anything except to get myself in trouble... I'm not so old and senile yet that I don't realize that yelling at clouds is pointless.You might notice near the top of the page there's two tabs for this game, one for reviews, and you may notice the other is "Discussion" not "News." If you want a pure news thread, why dont you make one?
How is talking about a dev and their game not discussion?Discussion would actually be cool here, but that doesn't happen. It's fine though you're literally a moderator here and if you think this thread is acceptable I'm not gonna accomplish anything except to get myself in trouble... I'm not so old and senile yet that I don't realize that yelling at clouds is pointless.
I'm a big dev defender, and while I can understand many ways BD got in this situation without him being some terrible huckster, I also don't think he warrants defense, as he doesn't seem ready in any way to change. I just also don't take any joy in dogpiling which is all this thread is at this point.Yea the negativity will not change anytime soon. So that is probably the best solution. It's sad because there was a time that the thread was pretty cool but now it's just another milfy city or summertime saga. I usually defend devs a lot on this forum, but BD has fucked up a lot.
Nice to find someone who agrees/understands.Initially, people are mad/angry/sad. But eventually, those feelings are replaced by indifference and they move on to other things.
The ones that do hang around do so because they either can't get over it, which is unhealthy as you say, or more likely are just shooting the breeze and screwing around. The same thing happens to many threads on here, when developers (either rightly or wrongly) get on peoples bad sides.
Unfortunately, it's hard for people who do still like the game / don't hate the dev to have a place in those threads. Threads that for the most part don't get moderated much if any after a certain point. So actually having more positive discussion, not getting made fun of when you post something positive and finding relevant information on a game can be very hard.
So the best you can do is to use your ignore list to manually filter out the more negative stuff. Or view it as people screwing around and fishing for likes and don't take them seriously.
If the only way to talk about the game that doesn't get one insulted by the masses is to insult the dev, that's not really discussion. Any time someone new shows up and tries to talk about the game at all they're instantly dogpiled and either treated like a naive child, or accused of being a shill or sock puppet for BD, which isn't discussion. This multiple post tangent is the most civil I've seen this board in ages.How is talking about a dev and their game not discussion?
I mean, technically, the rules are as follows.How is talking about a dev and their game not discussion?
nearly impossible to follow unless you don't talk much.I mean, technically, the rules are as follows.
7. Avoid excessive discussion about development. Talking about developers is fine, but derailing the game discussion with multiple pages of the same arguments concerning development speed, delays, pricing, etc is not.
And rule #1 is broken all the time too when people are called sheep, simps etc.
No... this is pretty much the only thread I'm in that has page after page after page talking about that. Even in other threads where people aren't happy the horse is at least allowed to rest in peace.nearly impossible to follow unless you don't talk much.
Yeah, that's why I mentioned in my other post threads like this aren't moderated much if at all. Because if they were, 95% of the posts would get deleted.nearly impossible to follow unless you don't talk much.
I'm not defending anyone. He's not a professional dev by my book either. Granted I'm more forgiving and appreciative regardless, but that's a choice. What I'm saying is that it's emotionally immature to scream at the clouds week after week. You got screwed over? Awesome, it's a lesson about buying an incomplete product, learn from it. It's a risk you take any time you buy pre-order, early-access, patreon or crowd-funded games.No one's getting mad at you, you're just the only one here defending BD and his horrible practices. I think you have an issue imprinting emotion on something/someone that has none. 95% of us here are apathetic, a bunch are former patrons as well, feeling that they got ripped off and come here to keep up with all the bullshit BDs slinging. A year or two ago you might've had a point, but now, this thread is pure catharsis.
It is, it's just not the discussion you want it to be. If we're all having a laugh at the newest excuse and lamenting the downfall of this game that we all used to like, that's a discussion.If the only way to talk about the game that doesn't get one insulted by the masses is to insult the dev, that's not really discussion.
Agreed, though anyone new to this thread would indeed be naive, literally impossible that they arent. If they dont read the thread long enough to "read the room," that's ultimately on them.Any time someone new shows up and tries to talk about the game at all they're instantly dogpiled and either treated like a naive child, or accused of being a shill or sock puppet for BD, which isn't discussion.
I'd posit that we dont talk about the same arguments about delays or speed, BD is constantly finding new ways to fuck up. I mean sure, you could lump all of that into the same general chunk, but the game itself isnt really providing much to discuss, and never really has. The old thread was full of stupid spats about "best girl" andI mean, technically, the rules are as follows.
7. Avoid excessive discussion about development. Talking about developers is fine, but derailing the game discussion with multiple pages of the same arguments concerning development speed, delays, pricing, etc is not.
And rule #1 is broken all the time too when people are called sheep, simps etc.
Not sure about the asshole part but in my experience they mostly just die...Most people that wear red shirts are assholes.
It is, it's just not the discussion you want it to be. If we're all having a laugh at the newest excuse and lamenting the downfall of this game that we all used to like, that's a discussion.
Agreed, though anyone new to this thread would indeed be naive, literally impossible that they arent. If they dont read the thread long enough to "read the room," that's ultimately on them.
I'd posit that we dont talk about the same arguments about delays or speed, BD is constantly finding new ways to fuck up. I mean sure, you could lump all of that into the same general chunk, but the game itself isnt really providing much to discuss, and never really has. The old thread was full of stupid spats about "best girl" and
I personally dont view generalizations as personal attacks, because they arent, ultimately. There's a huge difference between me calling you an asshole and me saying most people that wear red shirts are assholes.
I'm not going to enforce only your opinion, nor am I going to turn this into a "news only" thread. If you think a post breaks the rules, report it.
Like I said this thread annoys me enough as it is, having to police it as well, knowing that at the least one mod doesn't think it's a problem is a huge exercise in futility. I would point out that you've been talking to at least 3 people who think this thread is poorly moderated, so calling it only my opinion is disingenuous.I'm not going to enforce only your opinion, nor am I going to turn this into a "news only" thread. If you think a post breaks the rules, report it.
~ 12 or I'll be disappointed....This conversations seems to be going around in circles let's try to change it a little bit.
How many new girls do you guys think BD will add in the next update?