voyeurkind

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It’s not about legality for Patreon, more about image. Patreon is just very anal about a lot of stuff. I’ve been warned by them on multiple occasions for very silly things.
I've heard it's more about PayPal than Patron. I could be wrong.
 

Benn Swagger

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FFCreations , rather than making 2 branching scenes that require save & loading to experience both, and also shorten the game progression content ... why not extended the event to 2 occasion ? ... first time, she's on control, MC startled but keep it going anyway ... then the next date, MC want to take control instead.

I forgot, you already done this too before, pre beach event, MC must choosing on of the girls for a night. Why ? ... why not just extend it to one long plot and MC gets every vaginas & sex scenes ? ... I just don't understand for Dev doing a lot of job, only for the players missing them. Fyi, not every players are doing save & load just to see the other scene. Or you're gonna put blame to player like them who don't do that and missing many of your content ?

Imo, there's optional branch and there's forced branch. Let say a player hate Lolis character like Karina ... then, players can have optional branch to skip that girl content. But for me who want to get them all, I'm disappointed when MC only get to choose one.

Of course I will be understand if your purpose is to "un-make" this from harem theme, that in the plot end, player forced only to choose one girl.
 

look_skywalker

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FFCreations , rather than making 2 branching scenes that require save & loading to experience both, and also shorten the game progression content ... why not extended the event to 2 occasion ? ... first time, she's on control, MC startled but keep it going anyway ... then the next date, MC want to take control instead.

I forgot, you already done this too before, pre beach event, MC must choosing on of the girls for a night. Why ? ... why not just extend it to one long plot and MC gets every vaginas & sex scenes ? ... I just don't understand for Dev doing a lot of job, only for the players missing them. Fyi, not every players are doing save & load just to see the other scene. Or you're gonna put blame to player like them who don't do that and missing many of your content ?

Imo, there's optional branch and there's forced branch. Let say a player hate Lolis character like Karina ... then, players can have optional branch to skip that girl content. But for me who want to get them all, I'm disappointed when MC only get to choose one.

Of course I will be understand if your purpose is to "un-make" this from harem theme, that in the plot end, player forced only to choose one girl.
As a player I like the way it is. I like that we are given a choice to be either dominant, or submissive and none of the options are forced on us. Personally I don't like the submissive MC option, someone else might dislike dominant MC option.

Some choices are harder, for example it's a shame that if you go for Melody sleepover scene that lets you confess your feelings, you miss the only currently availiable sex scene with Karina, but on the other hand I like that I have to choose. Makes me value what I get more.

In some other games you get the option to access every single scene on one playthrough, but that resulted in an overwhelming amount of sex scenes. I found myself skipping some of them just to get to the story.

Maybe someday someone will make a walkthrough mod (like the ones Lain or Scrappy do for other games), these often incorporate the feature of enabling all the scenes where you have to choose only one. Not sure though how it can be done without breaking the story, something like "play all the scenes, but proceed with results of scene a/b/c".
 

User4862

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FFCreations , rather than making 2 branching scenes that require save & loading to experience both, and also shorten the game progression content ... why not extended the event to 2 occasion ? ... first time, she's on control, MC startled but keep it going anyway ... then the next date, MC want to take control instead.

I forgot, you already done this too before, pre beach event, MC must choosing on of the girls for a night. Why ? ... why not just extend it to one long plot and MC gets every vaginas & sex scenes ? ... I just don't understand for Dev doing a lot of job, only for the players missing them. Fyi, not every players are doing save & load just to see the other scene. Or you're gonna put blame to player like them who don't do that and missing many of your content ?

Imo, there's optional branch and there's forced branch. Let say a player hate Lolis character like Karina ... then, players can have optional branch to skip that girl content. But for me who want to get them all, I'm disappointed when MC only get to choose one.

Of course I will be understand if your purpose is to "un-make" this from harem theme, that in the plot end, player forced only to choose one girl.
the game is story driven, and the choices are simply part of the narrative that valaurie and ffcreations are wanting to tell. it seems like those choices of who to be with also further their character development. the characters are written to be realistic and all the girls being ok with mc fucking whoever is not realistic.
 

Mistress_Kixen

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I believe Karina and Hailey both lose a relationship point if you go with Susan, so there's at least some disappointment there.

But regardless, I don't don't see how the story could have the other 3 be ok with MC hooking up with Susan, especially Leah. I mean yeah, sure, Porn Brain often steers us into trying to get every girl to join a harem. But I'm not sure it would make sense here for Susan, based on the story so far.
I could be wrong here but to be honest I think that Susan was brought back into the game for the purpose of there being a Susan only path for those who did like her. I mean think about it for a moment we already got a path where Alice can be your girl, Melody can be your girl, Melody and Alice as your girlfriends, heck we even got a side entry showing where you choose Katrina which could very well also become available in the future.

My point being is that bringing Susan back could be the build up for this possible avenue to happen, but at the same time yeah I can't and don't see the other girls being okay with bringing in Susan.

Leah for obvious reasons hates her guts
Melody dislikes her with a passion
Alice also doesn't like her for obvious reasons
and after learning what she tried to do to you Both Hailey and Katrina aren't liking her too much either.
 

Benn Swagger

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As a player I like the way it is.....
the game is story driven.....
I've no problem with Dev choice. It just for a month waiting, we've gotten shorten content not because the Dev is lazy, but because he branching choice which taking a lot of development time. Instead having 10~15 minutes content, we're only get like 5, as each path has it own renders.

This was happening to Developer name Pirot King before, in the game title Dirty Pool. He isn't lazy, but every fucking little things has branches & images. The result, the game felt so short, yet if you take a look at image folder, it has tons of images. Like when on sex scene, you've got choice to kiss, grab tits, lick vagina or fuck. This selection isn't repeatable, it's only one pass. So if you choose kiss, you'll be missed the tits, the lick & the fuck. He decide to hold that game & make new one with better plot design.

TL : DR ... avoid branching mechanic if you don't have multiple work station & dev team. Not that it's bad, but doing it alone, it might take ages to finish the game.
 

User4862

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I've no problem with Dev choice. It just for a month waiting, we've gotten shorten content not because the Dev is lazy, but because he branching choice which taking a lot of development time. Instead having 10~15 minutes content, we're only get like 5, as each path has it own renders.

This was happening to Developer name Pirot King before, in the game title Dirty Pool. He isn't lazy, but every fucking little things has branches & images. The result, the game felt so short, yet if you take a look at image folder, it has tons of images. Like when on sex scene, you've got choice to kiss, grab tits, lick vagina or fuck. This selection isn't repeatable, it's only one pass. So if you choose kiss, you'll be missed the tits, the lick & the fuck. He decide to hold that game & make new one with better plot design.

TL : DR ... avoid branching mechanic if you don't have multiple work station & dev team. Not that it's bad, but doing it alone, it might take ages to finish the game.
i understand more what you mean now. with branching, theres less content per path, especially the longer the game goes on, thats just the nature of it. ive accepted that. the trade-off though, is a more personalized story, which is my preference. the last update i chose against susan and hailey, so it was a very short update for me. c'est le vie. i guess i just dont mind waiting.
 

FFCreations

Creator of Freeloading Family
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I've no problem with Dev choice. It just for a month waiting, we've gotten shorten content not because the Dev is lazy, but because he branching choice which taking a lot of development time. Instead having 10~15 minutes content, we're only get like 5, as each path has it own renders.

This was happening to Developer name Pirot King before, in the game title Dirty Pool. He isn't lazy, but every fucking little things has branches & images. The result, the game felt so short, yet if you take a look at image folder, it has tons of images. Like when on sex scene, you've got choice to kiss, grab tits, lick vagina or fuck. This selection isn't repeatable, it's only one pass. So if you choose kiss, you'll be missed the tits, the lick & the fuck. He decide to hold that game & make new one with better plot design.

TL : DR ... avoid branching mechanic if you don't have multiple work station & dev team. Not that it's bad, but doing it alone, it might take ages to finish the game.
I understand what you mean but for us we are looking more at how we want the game to be when it’s done. That’s what we’re aiming for. Sadly that may mean less content each update if you’re only playing through it once.

What we want is to have a fairly linear story but with at least some branching for replayability value. It’s always more fun (at least for me) to have some form of choice every now and then. Even if the story as a whole is linear. It makes it feel like you’re actually playing a game and having some form of personalized experience. As opposed to just sitting through a story that you have zero say about.
 

DarthRe7an

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Apr 13, 2018
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I just came across this game the other day and I absolutely love Mel, her Neutral Chaos is always good for a few laughs. I'm not very far in the game, but I can seen her getting the MC into some big trouble. I definatley cant wait to finish the current content and see where this game goes.
 
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I just came across this game the other day and I absolutely love Mel, her Neutral Chaos is always good for a few laughs. I'm not very far in the game, but I can seen her getting the MC into some big trouble. I definatley cant wait to finish the current content and see where this game goes.
She's hilarious, but once you get farther, you'll realize all the characters are pretty damn funny too. Leah just did something absolutely hysterical. She fucked me over a little bit, but it's such a damn good prank I can't help but respect her for it. Which is good, because, after finishing Acting Lessons this week, meeting another redhead named Leah was setting off alarm bells.
 
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She's hilarious, but once you get farther, you'll realize all the characters are pretty damn funny too. Leah just did something absolutely hysterical. She fucked me over a little bit, but it's such a damn good prank I can't help but respect her for it. Which is good, because, after finishing Acting Lessons this week, meeting another redhead named Leah was setting off alarm bells.
UGH... I didn't even think of that until you said it. Damn you lol
 

WINTEX

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May 26, 2017
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Finally finished new update. Well, i should say its kinda lame. Firsrly, i was almost absolutely right that after she was fired, Susand would go dancing (well, i assumed stripping), and i really like that character, well liked, cause because of this update i kinda disgusted. Well, to be true, MC is also kinda stupid to me. All this whining, come on "oh no, my life is ruined", bitch please, Susan had NO options to ruin your life, even if she was real cop or even a judge. You have a ticket? So what? Pay fucking money and dont be a fucking pussy. Your driving licence would be dismissed? So what, 2 years maximum, and you have it back again. Still not much price for ruining someones life, is it?
So returning to Susan, previously i talked about it couple of times before, Susan is Hailey, but the one who is still wild.
But those dialogs... Come on, its a fucking porn game,and everything, but... Susan has a fucking degree, i think she is smart enougth to know, that information that she was foooling around with someone yesterday, than slowly jerking him of on the sideroad is kinda unpleasing, and most likely would not lead to sex. You dont need to go to university to know this, just to highschool. And again, dialogs... I dont want to decline her because of whining "you tried to ruin my life", again, there was 4 adults who new about whole situation including MC, and no one used his brain to simply... think? He could've told her that he dont like whores, ok, part about that she always could've call him was good, but everything else (facepalm)
Continuing with Aunts slut revelations, "wow, she has so much expirience with blowjobs", just fucking amazing, i declined one girl, just to hear this from another.
Dunno, i hope that its not final meeting with Susan, maybe after MCs harsh response she would change a little, who knows. I really liked her( thanx V.A. Laurie , and here i was ready to forgive you for special)), when everyone was cursing her, i tried to protect her. And here what i got. This whole situation could've been presented in a different way, come one, V.A. you've made me to kinda like Karina, and that was really hard to achieve.
OK, what's done is done.
 

Veriko666

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Just finished this from beginning to current update, I kinda like it but I feel like it is moving really slowly. My enjoyment with the sister steadily dropped while I enjoyment with Mel grew. I feel like the writing is kind of all over the place, especially with the sister. To begin with it felt super porny and unbelievable to suggest a threesome SO early in their relationship, I mean yeah you can skip it but you will miss some nice scenes if you do. I will say I find polyamory (mostly sharing partner) really unappealing and I wish there was a way to stop it. I thought that it would serve a point in the story (and I guess it still might). Problem is the story stopped revolving around MC relationship with sister and became about going between girls to boink.

I mean I get that it might just be one of those games but the story started off good with tension between MC and sister, like I said I thought the polyamory would serve the story considering sister showed signs of jealousy now and then. For example she goes from telling MC that Karina better drop having feelings for MC and gets kinda spiteful about it (sending pictures to Karina), to getting horny on Karina really soon after and then being fine with others saying they love MC and him saying it openly to others. Yeah it feels like it jumps all over the place.

That said I enjoy Mel quite a bit, she is a fun character. I love the aunt cause she has depth but she is also relatively new character and feels like a broken mother figure, which is fun. Leah is alright but she just doesn't go anywhere, she briefly shows vulnerability but then she goes back to being uncaring and kinda a douche that fucks the MC's sister (she is funny at time but unlikable to me due to her doucheyness), her redeeming quality is her protectiveness of Karina. As for Karina, she is basically an innocent anime girl incarnate and bores me even if she looks great. Susan = meh even if I enjoyed dominating her, but it could of just been any other girl to me.

Beyond the story mishaps and the overload of girls I enjoyed the scenes, good renders and the writing does have some bright spots, especially with Mel. However I feel like I don't even know what the plot is anymore, MC just goes between girls fucking, no jealousy between anyone and nothing really happening beyond giving titles on their relationships which ultimately don't matter cause they fuck about. Anyway this is just my opinion and I realize maybe this game just isn't for me (due to a focus on polyamory) but I did feel like this game had a great start to be more.
 

Endless

To Obtain My Infinite Dream I Shall Even Sink God
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Seems like Qleaf is retiring.
Godspeed good sir for all the wonderful walkthroughs you have made.
I hope someone else will pick up where he left off on this walkthrough & the other games he made them for.
 

Boneprone

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I'm currently on my 1st play through,,so far so good..hot chicks,humor,no need for a walkthrough,,,good stuff!!my only complaint is the size of the text window,that shit is huge,takes more than a 1/4 of the screen..i think the dev for (i'm pretty sure it was Bad Memories) nailed it with the option to hide the box and only see the text,that way theres no need to hide the UI to see whats going on..
 

I'm Not Thea Lundgren!

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I'm currently on my 1st play through,,so far so good..hot chicks,humor,no need for a walkthrough,,,good stuff!!my only complaint is the size of the text window,that shit is huge,takes more than a 1/4 of the screen..i think the dev for (i'm pretty sure it was Bad Memories) nailed it with the option to hide the box and only see the text,that way theres no need to hide the UI to see whats going on..
There is a mod available that hides the text box, do a search on the site for invisible text box mod.
 
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