ename144

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Maya is very flip-floppy. She might be bipolar. Can't check out her closet, but she's okay with taking her money. Can't let her leg rest on his crotch, but she's cool with hand on a gstring and ass. Doesn't want him to be attracted to her, yet flaunts around in her gstring and nightie. Rrrrright. That's right, I like to start shit with the characters.
Well, the money thing is just gameplay and story segregation. MCs need a way to earn money when mini-games are turned off. Hiding it in the free roam room that's already been rendered is quick and easy. It's just like the inability to save more than five $, even if logically we could.

As for the rest, I may be reading too much into this but I actually find a certain consistency with Maya's behavior. Maya is a very private, reserved person, but I get the feeling she wants to be a bit more adventurous. It's just that she has a hard time getting past her insecurities, escpecially after her father nearly disowned her for being a lesbian.

As I said before, the Maya we see in Episode 1 is something of mask she projects to the world, the version of herself she wishes she could be. But the mask slips any time the subject any time her sexuality is brought up, like the MC asking about her fake boyfriend or just getting an erection being next to her.

This is all taken to another level in Episode 2 when she realizes she is attracted to the MC. On the one hand, the MC helps her overcome her fears so she can be more openly flirtatious; as she'll say in Episode 5, she can feel vulnerable around him, which has to feel extremely liberating. On the other hand, the fact that she has these feelings for him confuses her completely, even more so when she's not sure what is going to happen with Josy. And of course she can't just explain all this to the MC because she would need to reveal her deepest, most painful secret for it to make any sense.

So yeah, Maya's behavior at that point is pretty erratic because she's scared of her own shadow. If she does nothing, she's worried she'll be alone and stuck in her shell forever. If she does something, she's worried she's deceiving herself and betraying Josy.

I'd really to get a more fully realized view of Maya exploring her flirtatious side now that she's resolved her uncertainties (at least nominally). We get a few glimpses of that in her Episode 5 sex scene, but between comforting her over her father, her being drunk, and having to cram all the other sex scenes into a single party, it didn't really gel.

Still, hope springs eternal.
 
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I'm on my 4th playthrough today and I was trying to pay extra attention to the Bella components, and this is my current suspicion as to what's kinda going on.

I'm guessing Bella and her Husband James were living together and about 3+ years ago James was either watching their child at home and the kid fell in the pool and drowned, or James was driving and got in some sort of car accident that killed their child. I think Bella initially blamed James for the death and shut him out. This is supported at least potentially by the fact that on Bella's book shelves she has a small assortment of children's books like the three little pigs, and a goofy book (there's a few others too). The locked door I believe is her son/daughter's room.

Bella in the pool told MC that she forgave James and wonders if he'll come home, or if what she's doing with MC is adultery and if she should just move on. Jill I'm guessing may have gotten pregnant as a teen and either had it terminated, or lost it. The pamphlet on Jill's dresser is about some sort of support group (or something similar), and i'm guessing that's where Jill and Bella met and are so close. I'm less sure about my conjecture about Jill, but her questions on the date about which date for sex and such might have been because she might have either had sex too young, or been raped potentially? This would make sense why she leans on the fact that her money doesn't bring happiness. I worry a bit about Rusty being a bit rolled up into this, since she questions MC about his thoughts on him.

Again this is all just speculation, but I think there might be some decent clues around this.

(Edit) Upon watching the rest of the date scene with Jill, perhaps instead of her losing a baby or something like that, she was in a support group because she lost her older sister, and Bella now is kind of filling that void.
I also think the part about Bella, her lost child and the children's room is might be possible. Very interesting view.
 
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I also think the part about Bella, her lost child and the children's room is might be possible. Very interesting view.
This is an interesting idea. I think the military has a part to play. We’ve seen the uniform (while drunk) and the boots are definitely real. Possible the kid killed him/ herself with Jame‘s gun? or (and I don’t think this timeline can work) Jame’s forces rebellious kid to join military (possibly go to military academy) gets killed.
 
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Alfagrem

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No cheating is ever addressed. Nobody ever calls anyone on the MC fucking every girl he's ever been in extended contact with.
In my canon walkthrough the characters that I've had 'sexy times' with amounts to one (Sage) and the only other one that I've put in any kind of pursuit for is with Josey prior to her arrival and B&R.
 

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I think everyone know now that he's banging every girl (if you choose to do that way in your play), but not one single time it was said that the MC is already engaged in a relationship right ? He is officialy single and have some more stronger interest on each girls depending of the path you made on your play.

That's probably also a way to not lock the MC in a relationship with someone that early on that stage of the story.
 

Alfagrem

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I think everyone know now that he's banging every girl (if you choose to do that way in your play), but not one single time it was said that the MC is already engaged in a relationship right ? He is officialy single and have some more stronger interest on each girls depending of the path you made on your play.

That's probably also a way to not lock the MC in a relationship with someone that early on that stage of the story.

My one critque of his previous work was that I was railroaded into a relationship with the dull girl (graphically and personality wise) and despite telling her that her acting was crap, her hairstyle was rubbish and so on - I couldn't escape that beartrap until the 'Sophie's choice' moment.

It did feel that we were being likewise driven to go double or bust with M&J but I'm hopeful that the closing moments of ep.5 mean I still might get the choice of going for only one of them.

If not I'm on the Sage or bust route and hoping that she isn't going to go 'Leah' on me!
 

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Could have been any coin... DPA chose this one. It's going to bug you at some point.



I think the real reason Rusty didn't get with Jill was because of Tommy and this Secret Society of theirs. I think the Big Names on campus are all part of some underground club where they control what goes on above ground. I pretty sure even Derek mentioned a strange vibe from the place and rumors. On the outside, it's a fraternity, innocent fun. But in reality, they are using their influence to traffic drugs, maybe girls, or something else. I haven't put it together yet, but this coin is very specific. Yeah, Greek is influential in Fraternities, and common.

or

Maybe I just want it to be something more and it's just a coin to represent Greek history. I'm working on something though. I've noticed certain books laying around in backgrounds that are just as strange.
Relax, we will have to wait until october (at least) to get the next update. I'm not saying that you are wrong, but if we keep with the crazy theories we will get straitjacket, we will see when the time comes.
 

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Relax, we will have to wait until october (at least) to get the next update. I'm not saying that you are wrong, but if we keep with the crazy theories we will get straitjacket, we will see when the time comes.
She is one of the crazies! You should join us too!

My one critque of his previous work was that I was railroaded into a relationship with the dull girl (graphically and personality wise) and despite telling her that her acting was crap, her hairstyle was rubbish and so on - I couldn't escape that beartrap until the 'Sophie's choice' moment.

It did feel that we were being likewise driven to go double or bust with M&J but I'm hopeful that the closing moments of ep.5 mean I still might get the choice of going for only one of them.

If not I'm on the Sage or bust route and hoping that she isn't going to go 'Leah' on me!
Our money is more on Bella going "Leah" than Sage.
 
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