UnluckySatan

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New version, some changes, so I guess it's time for another pseudo-review. The new intro is nice. It explains the setting and story (as it is), and more moments with the sister are always nice.

The navigation isn't much different to what it was before, just a little different in presentation. I will say, it would be nice if the "back" icon in the kitchen and hall were in line with the kitchen and hall icons in the living room so you can travel across a little more fluidly (though we do have the map in the corner, too, so it's not an issue). Also I've already come to miss the little icon showing exactly where Lya is in the apartment. I'm not sure if that will end up being a big deal, though, and her schedule is the same every day, anyway (at least for now).

The clothes changing menu seems good. The outfits are nice. There are also some hidden pictures, it seems? I only found one, but that's kind of cool regardless. The scene with Chloe and the sister is great. I don't think I commented last time around, but it seems to have more text than I remember, and it's wonderful stuff. Elvenheim seems promising, too, from what we've seen of it.

One small bug I noticed: When you click on the bed icon, if you're skipping text (either by toggling it with tab or holding ctrl), it sends you to the "Elvenheim-related content is still under development" screen and into the city map instead of doing nothing as you'd expect. Not that it's difficult to avoid, or even a problem if it happens since you can roll back or just navigate back to the apartment, but I suppose it's not intended either way. Clicking on the sex shop icon sends you to the same screen.

Overall, though, it's all good. Much less content than before, but I suppose that will come in time, and if the code is better, then that's good.
Thanks again for testing the game! Your reviews are always great and help me a lot to improve the game. Many of the changes I made during development were thanks to your suggestions.

About the buttons, at first they were aligned, but there was a little problem bothering me and I ended up changing it at the last minute. But most likely I will fix this again.

About the button showing Lya's position, I swapped it for the minimap. Her schedule is fixed, so the minimap ends up being more useful as it adds more navigation options. And the addition of the minimap was also done thanks to your suggestion, so thanks again.

And about this bug you commented on, it really wasn't supposed to happen. I will try to fix it before the next update.

And I really agree, this version had a lot less content, but it's basically a new first version, so I decided to release it this way to get some feedback on the new changes.

Thanks so much for the feedback! o/
 

UnluckySatan

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Now a message for everyone:

Regarding the game development process, I could see that I'm really not very talented at the writing part; either in relation to the story, or even in relation to the events. I'm probably way below average in this part.

I know how to handle the graphics engine, I also know how to handle the game engine, besides knowing how to handle quite well Photoshop, which is the tool I use to edit the images and create the buttons, but unfortunately I'm not very good at the writing part.

So, considering that I ended up changing a lot of things that I had written initially about the game's story, I would appreciate suggestions on what paths you guys think the game's story and characters's story should take.

On a more basic level, I still intend to follow through with some of the ideas I had initially planned. But I'm also willing to make changes that might improve the game's situation.

If you have any interesting ideas about the story, or if you have any interesting ideas about about the development of any character in the game, feel free to send me a private message, and I'll take a look to see if it's possible to implement the changes in the game. It could be about the story, or it could be about some interaction that you think might be interesting to add in the form of an event. Maybe some fetish-related interaction, I don't know. I am open to suggestions as my own creativity is somewhat limited.

I know my own limitations, which is why I'm leaving this message here in the thread. Another reason is that I want to keep working on the game, as it's a project I've been organizing for a long time, and I have a very special affection for it. So any improvement will help keep the game alive for a longer time.

Another thing, my intention remains the same, and that will not change in the future; the game will always be free, and open for modifications or anything like that.
 

Saint Blackmoor

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I applaud Unlucky Satan for your efforts, it shows you what to improve yourself.
One note of criticism: I liked the original version better, this one seems to be pretty repetitive, the semi-randomness of the first is more appealing. the art is great and the innocence of Lya is my favorite part.
 

AlexTorch

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One note of criticism: I liked the original version better, this one seems to be pretty repetitive, the semi-randomness of the first is more appealing.
Is funny, to me i like this version more, that one have the problem that sometimes you cannot find her at some spot, and you need to leave the place and come back (so she change the position), this one all what you need is in the place, and one thing that i really like is even if she is at the same spot, there is always some different in the text, for example she talking about elvenheim, in the next she talking about her clan, etc. But of course, everyone think different, but for me that like a good story, this one is really good. Also what is really good is the initiative of the dev, i can count on my hand someone that is so open minded like him, he really need some applause, in a site where 90% of the developers that have here don't give a shit to what the players think, he is a few of those that is open to constructive criticism.
 

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But of course, everyone thinks differently, but for me, that is like a good story, this one is really good. Also what is really good is the initiative of the dev, I can count on my hand someone that is so open-minded like him, he really needs some applause, in a site where 90% of the developers that have here don't give a shit to what the players think, he is a few of those that is open to constructive criticism.
I agree with you, the story is very important to the whole game. this game has a lot of potential.
 

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I'm happy to see Unlucky Satan trying hard in order to write a story for your game, even with all the difficulties of the case.
I firmly believe that writing a story that gives a leitmotif to the game and supports all the scenes (sexual and otherwise) is an important improvement to the game's playability.

I am a bad at writing stories (so I can understand your pain), but I imagine that a point that can be exploited for Lyn's innate curiosity for human culture, so under the pretext of learning MC can have numerous dates with Lyn: museum, beach, etc. Of course MC can also learn from Lyn about elven culture (eg. elvenheim picnic date with Lyn on a lake (?)).

The kitchen scene where Li was learning to cook is a golden opportunity for MC to interact with Lyn, get to know her better, help her cook (even two simple fried eggs with cheese) ;) and flirt with her. I think it is important that a sexual tension is built between the two.

One last thing:

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Did MC just eat a life buoy whole? Sorry, that belly is too repulsive to me.

Ps. English is not my tongue language, so is hard to me explain myself.

Thanks for your game.
 
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slavesrus

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Here, some of those so called elven tits.
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Fucking beautiful friend. Anyone whose against large breast? This will show you the error of your ways. But I know some guys like small ones, though they should never be against large ones. By the way great job dev. This animation alone has me downloading. And since theres no ntr, I'm all in. Though some mind controll powers and some corruption wld be nice. The story seems pretty good. Will this be more kinetic or will we actually be able to make the decisions.
 

UnluckySatan

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Fucking beautiful friend. Anyone whose against large breast? This will show you the error of your ways. But I know some guys like small ones, though they should never be against large ones. By the way great job dev. This animation alone has me downloading. And since theres no ntr, I'm all in. Though some mind controll powers and some corruption wld be nice. The story seems pretty good. Will this be more kinetic or will we actually be able to make the decisions.
Thanks for testing the game!

The intent of the story is to be more linear, but I have some events in mind with certain variations of results, but nothing too complex, just simple paths with variations of final scenes.

About mind control powers and corruption, we may have something related to this type of content in the future, with different characters. With the current characters I still don't have anything planned, but I don't know, maybe some things will change over time.
 
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UnluckySatan

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I'm happy to see Unlucky Satan trying hard in order to write a story for your game, even with all the difficulties of the case.
I firmly believe that writing a story that gives a leitmotif to the game and supports all the scenes (sexual and otherwise) is an important improvement to the game's playability.

I am a bad at writing stories (so I can understand your pain), but I imagine that a point that can be exploited for Lyn's innate curiosity for human culture, so under the pretext of learning MC can have numerous dates with Lyn: museum, beach, etc. Of course MC can also learn from Lyn about elven culture (eg. elvenheim picnic date with Lyn on a lake (?)).

The kitchen scene where Li was learning to cook is a golden opportunity for MC to interact with Lyn, get to know her better, help her cook (even two simple fried eggs with cheese) ;) and flirt with her. I think it is important that a sexual tension is built between the two.

One last thing:

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Did MC just eat a life buoy whole? Sorry, that belly is too repulsive to me.

Ps. English is not my tongue language, so is hard to me explain myself.

Thanks for your game.
Thanks for taking the time to comment! I will take a few notes about your suggestions. Your comment was quite interesting, so it will be possible to absorb some of your ideas for future events.

About the scene you commented on at the end of the comment. The scene was kind of weird probably because of the angle and lighting used in the rendering. But I think it's pretty easy to fix, so I'll fix it until the next update.
 
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UnluckySatan

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Is funny, to me i like this version more, that one have the problem that sometimes you cannot find her at some spot, and you need to leave the place and come back (so she change the position), this one all what you need is in the place, and one thing that i really like is even if she is at the same spot, there is always some different in the text, for example she talking about elvenheim, in the next she talking about her clan, etc. But of course, everyone think different, but for me that like a good story, this one is really good. Also what is really good is the initiative of the dev, i can count on my hand someone that is so open minded like him, he really need some applause, in a site where 90% of the developers that have here don't give a shit to what the players think, he is a few of those that is open to constructive criticism.
That was exactly the intention of this update. I wanted to remove all randomness, giving players more control over events and interactions. For now it might be hard to notice all the differences considering it's just the first update of the new release, but with time this will become more and more clear.

And about the last point you commented on. I like to be open to criticism and suggestions, because I consider these the best ways to improve the game. You see, who better to help improve the game than the very players who are playing the game?

I understand the position of some developers in not wanting to get involved with the community as it can be hard to face the reality of a critique; whether constructive or not. But at the same time, I believe this is the best way for the game to change its situation.

That's why I won't change my position in the future.
 
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That was exactly the intention of this update. I wanted to remove all randomness, giving players more control over events and interactions. For now it might be hard to notice all the differences considering it's just the first update of the new release, but with time this will become more and more clear.

And about the last point you commented on. I like to be open to criticism and suggestions, because I consider these the best ways to improve the game. You see, who better to help improve the game than the very players who are playing the game?

I understand the position of some developers in not wanting to get involved with the community as it can be hard to face the reality of a critique; whether constructive or not. But at the same time, I believe this is the best way for the game to change its situation.

That's why I won't change my position in the future.
personally i enjoy the update and hope to have a awesome harem of elven neko and demokin ladies. i see great potential in this game and cant wait to see where you take it. btw so far the writing is pretty decent id like a lil more comedy but that's just me personally its your game I'm just here for the ride.
 
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AlexTorch

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I understand the position of some developers in not wanting to get involved with the community as it can be hard to face the reality of a critique; whether constructive or not. But at the same time, I believe this is the best way for the game to change its situation.
That's why I won't change my position in the future.
And that's why i believe you have a bright future ahead, in these 4 years that i have been part of these amazing community, i have seen a lot of developers here, some really good, some really bad, i can say that those that always have a good future in developing games are 90% of the time those that think like this, most of those that don't give a fuck to people opinion don't go far, they grab a quick buck, abandon their game and later come back with another name. I'm not in any way saying that do everything that people say, you must do what you think is right and keep your idea of the ideal game, but sometimes some people have some really amazing ideas, some stuff that can improve a lot the game, that's why i believe that even that you may find some people talking shit about your game, is always good to be active and get involved in the community.
 
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kurosx

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My opinion from the point of view of photography: The new renders look unnaturally lit, there's too much front light, it looks like a setting in a photo studio. The hard shadows behind her doesn't make it better.
So yes, I liked the lighting in the old renders better, it looks much more natural there, sorry.
 

UnluckySatan

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My opinion from the point of view of photography: The new renders look unnaturally lit, there's too much front light, it looks like a setting in a photo studio. The hard shadows behind her doesn't make it better.
So yes, I liked the lighting in the old renders better, it looks much more natural there, sorry.
Don't worry, that's completely true. That was one of the sacrifices I had to make to improve the overall quality of the renders. Most environments already come with some baked lighting and shadows, and usually the right thing to do is align the new lighting with the baked ones. It was possible to do this before, but with the new rendering method it was not enough. To render more details in each scene it was necessary to add more lighting points (like you said, similar to photo studio lighting).

So I had to choose a more fanciful and less realistic lighting set. It's possible to completely remove the baked lighting and shadows from an asset, giving you more control over everything, but you'll need to add some new environment lighting directly from the graphics engine, and currently my computer is not good enough to make this possible.

But who knows, maybe in the future I will be able to update these renders with some even better ones.
 
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AlexTorch

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Really nice scenes with lya, the kissing scene is really good, the fairy is really cute, the only thing that i miss is some kind of "questlog" to know what i still can do in the update,short but really good update.
 

UnluckySatan

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Really nice scenes with lya, the kissing scene is really good, the fairy is really cute, the only thing that i miss is some kind of "questlog" to know what i still can do in the update,short but really good update.
I'm actually working on it. One of the icons in the top left bar will be for the game's questlogs, including information on main and side quests. And as always, thanks for playing and testing the game!
 
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MonkeyFunk

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Have I reached the end of content? The relationship book just says to get the reward in the morning but I've seen all 3 scenes
 
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