VN Ren'Py Tainted Heritage - a.k.a Weird Shit Is Going to Happen [v0.7.1] [recreation]

[Sonico]

At 14, the only possible porn available for me was on VHS tapes or in porn magazines...

I remember those times too. NOT everything was better in old times, eh?

 

[PrimeGuy]

Ah now tentacles are also NTR...holy fuck some people.

WTF.... you call that NTR???? i can already see the babys many little groots

While I don't agree with the tone of these messages, as they're antagonistic, I do agree that this isn't NTR. Even if we consider the plant to be a sapient entity, the person it is molesting is not currently in a romantic or sexual relationship with the MC when it occurs.

Now, it's okay to have issue with the idea of future love interests having sexual relations with other beings on screen in the visual novel. If it bugs you, it bugs you. I'm just saying that what happens in that scene doesn't fit the definition of the term.

 

[recreation]

The thing is that a lot of them aren't acting like teens, they ARE teens . I was playing japanese eroges when I was like 14. I am sure there quite a few of them in this forum as well.

You'd be surprised how many of those people are actually oldfags. I had some 60+ y.o. people acting like spoiled teens in the BM thread, actually I'd say they're sometimes worse than young people, because they tend to be unreasonable and stubborn af.
I'd agree though that there a probably a lot of teens on here, which is to be expected. heck I think I was under 10 when I played my first adult game on an atari or commodore of a classmate (no I'm not that old lol, he just got the old "junk" from a cousin or so).

 

[packor]

okay, but I'm confused. Why would teens dislike tentacles? Wouldn't they be more receptive towards that? Or anything in general.

 

[oaiki]

Why would teens dislike tentacles?

I'm not sure it's tentacles per se, more the typical teen fantasy of being the one and only, all maidens faint with pleasure upon your glance; that coupled with mysogynistic posessiveness gets them really worked up and heavens forbid if you suggest a facet of sexuality outside their blinkered outlook

 

[Wisblade]

okay, but I'm confused. Why would teens dislike tentacles? Wouldn't they be more receptive towards that? Or anything in general.

You'll get two points of view for that...

NTR fans: will have a strict definition of what NTR is, including feelings, situation, willingness, etc. behind. Ask them directly, it's quite a complex kink and I'm sure that some of them can do a whole essay about it.
BTW, there is nothing inherently wrong to have this particular fetish - applying a "morality" filter on other's kinks, here, is quite arrogant. You can like, or not, but involving "morality" or "decency" or anything like this is quite hypocritical. You can like it, or not, however.

NTR haters: "Someone/something touched my girl". Bonus points for those who even refuse to see it with women. Extra points for those who don't even want to see someone else NEAR the girl.

That's why you may feel some inconsistencies and confusion in the whole debate... Two opposite points of view using their own arguments, who aren't the same at all obviously.

 

[JJDrakken]

Also to all people crying about NTR...just grow up already. They are the artist here making the game/story. You can either play it or don't. If your that fragile about anything, how in the hell do you function in society?(This coming from a guy who has intense Anxiety/Crowds of people issues & spinal damage(Disability), I can deal with content these folks provide)

It's a damn game/art/story. If you don't like it, don't consume it.

 

[AlexTorch]

Hmm, I wonder why that happened shortly after someone added a new tag, but never before

Because rape is not something that a lot of people like, i complete understand that is your game, and you do what you want to do, and i complete respect that, but calling people retarded because they don't like something that you may like is rude. I understand that some people don't know how to talk and sound like you said "teens" but those that i have seen saying something here never said "this game is shit" because that, i have only seen people saying "hey, i don't like this fetish". But again, is your game and if you believe that that scene is necessary, i'm complete ok with that, is a good game, i don't like that part but that will not make stop playing.

 

[Carpe Stultus]

You'll get two points of view for that...

NTR fans: will have a strict definition of what NTR is, including feelings, situation, willingness, etc. behind. Ask them directly, it's quite a complex kink and I'm sure that some of them can do a whole essay about it.
BTW, there is nothing inherently wrong to have this particular fetish - applying a "morality" filter on other's kinks, here, is quite arrogant. You can like, or not, but involving "morality" or "decency" or anything like this is quite hypocritical. You can like it, or not, however.

NTR haters: "Someone/something touched my girl". Bonus points for those who even refuse to see it with women. Extra points for those who don't even want to see someone else NEAR the girl.

That's why you may feel some inconsistencies and confusion in the whole debate... Two opposite points of view using their own arguments, who aren't the same at all obviously.

And in between are the people who play the VN's for what they are and shake their heads when they see how people scream NTR for every little shit that doesn't fit their taste even if it isn't NTR or when people want NTR in every god damn VN.

 

[JJDrakken]

Because rape is not something that a lot of people like, i complete understand that is your game, and you do what you want to do, and i complete respect that, but calling people retarded because they don't like something that you may like is rude. I understand that some people don't know how to talk and sound like you said "teens" but those that i have seen saying something here never said "this game is shit" because that, i have only seen people saying "hey, i don't like this fetish". But again, is your game and if you believe that that scene is necessary, i'm complete ok with that, is a good game, i don't like that part but that will not make stop playing.

Folks are calling folks "retarded" More like entitled. If the tag is there, then why continue with it & cry about it? Pass and move on. Now I know tag was there, but now it's gone. So maybe something changed, I haven't checked in a few days. I probably wont until 6 months to a years worth more content comes out.

I get frustrated that I get into a story and then it stops out of no where, not a huge fan of teases, but I also understand this takes time/effort. So I respect that.

 

[Towik]

hmm I tried this game some time ago, seems i have to do a new run, cannot recall if there was ever a walkthrough... so is there a walkthrough?

Edit: by the way what's the difference in typing age that is different then 32 (default one)??

 

[Wisblade]

If your that fragile about anything, how in the hell do you function in society?

Be thankful that it isn't society - otherwise you wouldn't survive 24 hours, probably. We speak about GAMES, something we do during our FREE TIME, to relax and relieves from stress caused by society, jobs, duties, etc. - therefore, a "safe space" where nothing IRL could be impacted by a bad choice/decision. People are usually way more aggressive when the consequences can affect their family, to not say their own life...

I work ten hours a day and I'm close to a workaholic, I have two kids and a wife, a fucking huge bunch of blood-sucking relatives, 1700€ of monthly mortgage, several chronic health issues, a house to repair and renovate, and I'm an insomniac. And I'm quite the "standard guy", nothing exceptional, I know hundred of people like me, with only minor variations.
So sorry not sorry, I need to blow off some steam sometimes - like everyone, in fact - and therefore I enjoy things that give me no stress at all. And sadly, I'm not a fan of "My Little Pony" or "The Carebears", so I search entertainment elsewhere than in "Peace & universal frienship" universes. Slaughtering pixels is a way to not do it IRL, for example...

It's not a matter of being fragile - a fragile/woke person would probably get a fatal stroke just by reading games' titles, here. It's a matter of "Fuck, I found a nice game, I really like and enjoy 99% of story and content, and there is this fucking 1% that really bothers me... Since the dev itself is able to read and reply to comments, unlike what happens for most AAA games, I'll expose my problem, and we'll see what happens".

Because there is ALWAYS a possibility, in particular when it's a very small DETAIL, that it was an error/mistake - it won't be a "mistake" when half the content is against your kinks, of course.
If it's something that don't bother you a lot (I don't like Iggdra because I don't like abs for women, but there is other "fine" women around), you'll skip it: it isn't really important, you can't like ALL characters, especially when some of them are clearly designed to be annoying brats that should/will be tamed (*cough* Lilibet *cough*).

But when it's something that breaks your suspension of disbelief, it's a way bigger problem. Because we speak about a story, and if you don't have any suspension of disbelief while reading it, then it's either a bad story, or you're a bad reader. And clearly, the first option isn't really relevant here since several people - including myself - seems to enjoy it. Of course, it's sometimes "illogical", it's a medfan universe with magic and alternate timelines - that's why suspension of disbelief is something essential, otherwise you'll trash everything after five minutes because "it's not a realistic story".

(This coming from a guy who has intense Anxiety/Crowds of people issues & spinal damage(Disability), I can deal with content these folks provide)

This is not a competition where the one who is the most impaired is the most right. It's sad for you, and I mean it, but this is not something that make you more right nevertheless. You aren't currently on Twitter in a SJW thread.

It's a damn game/art/story. If you don't like it, don't consume it.

You would want us to believe that you can have enjoyed a game, movie, serie and NEVER EVER said "but..." after a positive assessment? Really?

And in between are the people who play the VN's for what they are and shake their heads when they see how people scream NTR for every little shit that doesn't fit their taste even if it isn't NTR or when people want NTR in every god damn VN.

And in-between are rarely writing anything in game's threads... The silent majority, as usual.

If the tag is there, then why continue with it & cry about it? Pass and move on.

Tags aren't always accurate - in fact, errors in tags seems to be way more common that "perfect tagging".
For most people, a "NTR" tag isn't fully relevant: lot of games implement a mechanism to avoid it COMPLETELY, some games are clearly focused on it and would never allow to avoid NTR scenes - otherwise you would delete half the game, etc. And you have games that SHOULD be "NTR-free" and have few (or one single...) NTR/NTR-like detail.

Is the tag "necrophilia" something you search for? For me, it is a HUGE turn off - no way, whatever happens. But following an advice from a trustful guy, I however played a game (four, in fact, because story is across four volumes) with this tag... The "dead" are (ultra-hot) female zombies, 100% intact (absolutely NO wounds), and are just looking like girls who would be HEAVILY stoned (50/10 on Snoop Dog's scale). Nothing close to a (rotten) inanimate corpse fucking - which is what I think about with "necrophilia". And there is even a plot twist about these girls. It's "I walk among zombies", FYI. I really enjoyed the game, which obviously has its "horror" part, but horror is something I like a lot anyway.

So the fuss about "NTR"... Go see what you can have with "loli" or "harem" tags, you'll enter in another level of debate. Seeing guys speaking about the fact that girls within the harem should not play together without the owner - otherwise "it is NTR" is something else... And the simple definition of a "loli", according to the two major opinions, would give you headaches instantly - while losing the last bit of faith in humanity you could still had.

 

[JJDrakken]

Be thankful that it isn't society - otherwise you wouldn't survive 24 hours, probably. We speak about GAMES, something we do during our FREE TIME, to relax and relieves from stress caused by society, jobs, duties, etc. - therefore, a "safe space" where nothing IRL could be impacted by a bad choice/decision. People are usually way more aggressive when the consequences can affect their family, to not say their own life...

I work ten hours a day and I'm close to a workaholic, I have two kids and a wife, a fucking huge bunch of blood-sucking relatives, 1700€ of monthly mortgage, several chronic health issues, a house to repair and renovate, and I'm an insomniac. And I'm quite the "standard guy", nothing exceptional, I know hundred of people like me, with only minor variations.
So sorry not sorry, I need to blow off some steam sometimes - like everyone, in fact - and therefore I enjoy things that give me no stress at all. And sadly, I'm not a fan of "My Little Pony" or "The Carebears", so I search entertainment elsewhere than in "Peace & universal frienship" universes. Slaughtering pixels is a way to not do it IRL, for example...

It's not a matter of being fragile - a fragile/woke person would probably get a fatal stroke just by reading games' titles, here. It's a matter of "Fuck, I found a nice game, I really like and enjoy 99% of story and content, and there is this fucking 1% that really bothers me... Since the dev itself is able to read and reply to comments, unlike what happens for most AAA games, I'll expose my problem, and we'll see what happens".

Because there is ALWAYS a possibility, in particular when it's a very small DETAIL, that it was an error/mistake - it won't be a "mistake" when half the content is against your kinks, of course.
If it's something that don't bother you a lot (I don't like Iggdra because I don't like abs for women, but there is other "fine" women around), you'll skip it: it isn't really important, you can't like ALL characters, especially when some of them are clearly designed to be annoying brats that should/will be tamed (*cough* Lilibet *cough*).

But when it's something that breaks your suspension of disbelief, it's a way bigger problem. Because we speak about a story, and if you don't have any suspension of disbelief while reading it, then it's either a bad story, or you're a bad reader. And clearly, the first option isn't really relevant here since several people - including myself - seems to enjoy it. Of course, it's sometimes "illogical", it's a medfan universe with magic and alternate timelines - that's why suspension of disbelief is something essential, otherwise you'll trash everything after five minutes because "it's not a realistic story".

This is not a competition where the one who is the most impaired is the most right. It's sad for you, and I mean it, but this is not something that make you more right nevertheless. You aren't currently on Twitter in a SJW thread.

You would want us to believe that you can have enjoyed a game, movie, serie and NEVER EVER said "but..." after a positive assessment? Really?

And in-between are rarely writing anything in game's threads... The silent majority, as usual.

Tags aren't always accurate - in fact, errors in tags seems to be way more common that "perfect tagging".
For most people, a "NTR" tag isn't fully relevant: lot of games implement a mechanism to avoid it COMPLETELY, some games are clearly focused on it and would never allow to avoid NTR scenes - otherwise you would delete half the game, etc. And you have games that SHOULD be "NTR-free" and have few (or one single...) NTR/NTR-like detail.

Is the tag "necrophilia" something you search for? For me, it is a HUGE turn off - no way, whatever happens. But following an advice from a trustful guy, I however played a game (four, in fact, because story is across four volumes) with this tag... The "dead" are (ultra-hot) female zombies, 100% intact (absolutely NO wounds), and are just looking like girls who would be HEAVILY stoned (50/10 on Snoop Dog's scale). Nothing close to a (rotten) inanimate corpse fucking - which is what I think about with "necrophilia". And there is even a plot twist about these girls. It's "I walk among zombies", FYI. I really enjoyed the game, which obviously has its "horror" part, but horror is something I like a lot anyway.

So the fuss about "NTR"... Go see what you can have with "loli" or "harem" tags, you'll enter in another level of debate. Seeing guys speaking about the fact that girls within the harem should not play together without the owner - otherwise "it is NTR" is something else... And the simple definition of a "loli", according to the two major opinions, would give you headaches instantly - while losing the last bit of faith in humanity you could still had.

oi, not a who has most sad life. It's me providing simple facts. Because for as long as I've been on the internet(Since late 80s). If you say something, folks will then try say but oh woes is me. The information is provided to point out, listen I got issues too that could cause me to be all weirded out by insert X thing. But I'm not. I never seek sympathy, rather have your indifference & scorn then your damn pity. (Not you specifically, just in general). That's how my brain works, I provide information to best of my ability, so I can cover the bases, when "internet screaming/debates start" Helps showing your not trying pull shit out your ass and/or scam. That's enough of that, about me.

I'm just stating, folks are so farking socially ovecharged to point, they can't even look at a chair & not freak out. That's why I say how can they function IRL, if they can't even handle internet.

Beyond that. I'm tired of "debating" all this. I've spent more time over this subject then I do managing a Conan Exiles server, lol. So we'll just agree to disagree and call it a day. If you think this me handing you win, sure whatever makes you feel happy I guess. End of the day none of this shit honestly matters to me in my IRL If you gotta get your last word in, again go for it, don't care, but I expect it. You see same patterns as long as I have, you know what to expect.

Toodles, ya'll be well.

 

[Towik]

what is this bar and why i can move it (left or right)?

 

[JJDrakken]

what is this bar and why i can move it (left or right)?

It's been covered several times in the posts(especially in last 2 pages). Corruption(Dom)/Love bar basically.

 

[Wisblade]

Because for as long as I've been on the internet(Since late 80s).

Internet started in 90's... With the Web. Before, it was something else, but not the Internet we know nowadays.
You're not the only one to be "old", you know...

I'm just stating, folks are so farking socially ovecharged to point, they can't even look at a chair & not freak out. That's why I say how can they function IRL, if they can't even handle internet.

I think you clearly misunderstood a LOT of things, there. People like me don't have a single sweat droplet with Internet - it's not our life, but a tool. Period. We don't exist ONLY through a social media account, and we don't even care about "losing" something - like an account - because we don't care about followers, likers, etc. and it's extremely easy to open a new account, if required, to get back an access.
There is really few things that can freak me out IRL, but what can happen to my kids or to my wife... For everything else, there is a solution, from simple talk up to the last resort if required: violence. None is a problem for me, if it's for my loved ones.

End of the day none of this shit honestly matters to me in my IRL

Now you start to understand... Talking about things on Internet isn't a life goal. We express opinions, we talk about things, we debate, and THAT'S ALL. You're the one who made a fuss about it, I wasn't taking it as a "huge thing" first - but I can admit that I don't have the world's softest temper. I just explained what I would like to get, in the most possible clear way, and PERIOD.

 

[DogManSalad]

Alright, thanks to the handy search function I get what the green and purple bar at the top of the character notes represents. What I haven't seen explained is the function of moving the slider on it. Does it change interactions with the girls (behavior/dialogue)?

 

[stahalle]

Alright, thanks to the handy search function I get what the green and purple bar at the top of the character notes represents. What I haven't seen explained is the function of moving the slider on it. Does it change interactions with the girls (behavior/dialogue)?

no its just a bug. its not suposed to be slided, but if you do, it doesn´t change anything and resets when you leave the menu.

 

[DogManSalad]

no its just a bug. its not suposed to be slided, but if you do, it doesn´t change anything and resets when you leave the menu.

Got it, thanks.

 

[recreation]

Because rape is not something that a lot of people like, i complete understand that is your game, and you do what you want to do, and i complete respect that, but calling people retarded because they don't like something that you may like is rude. I understand that some people don't know how to talk and sound like you said "teens" but those that i have seen saying something here never said "this game is shit" because that, i have only seen people saying "hey, i don't like this fetish". But again, is your game and if you believe that that scene is necessary, i'm complete ok with that, is a good game, i don't like that part but that will not make stop playing.

You did't catch the sarcasm in my post^^
+ where did I call people retarded? I called people out who:

act like spoiled teens, thinking that only their opinion is the right one, that only their kinks are valid...
...you see crying in every single game thread as soon as there's something they don't like, get angry when somebody is not their opinion, throwing facepalms like offended kids, etc.

Because that's just stupid and childish behaviour.

Edit: by the way what's the difference in typing age that is different then 32 (default one)??

No real difference, Eva might say something about it, but that's it. It's basically just there to give the player a possibility to enter their own age, but the range is limited to still make sense with the story.

what is this bar and why i can move it (left or right)?

It's been covered several times in the posts(especially in last 2 pages). Corruption(Dom)/Love bar basically.

It's not Corruption/Love, it's not a love-meter, in fact it has nothing to do with love. Corruption might fit to some degree, but that's also not really correct.
They will either become more subby/dependent, or do their own thing, that's it.