07jonesj

New Member
Dec 22, 2017
10
14
I did not get that impression during my time playing the game. And if you decide to cheat on her, even if you feel that it can help her career, it is still cheating. Come on, people! It is common sense.
Indeed, you can have sex with Melissa and Angela/Hedwig and Megan is completely fine with it, since it's before becoming an official couple. But once you are properly dating... well, then you're cheating if you do anything with anyone else. That's what cheating is.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Neo2Rus

07jonesj

New Member
Dec 22, 2017
10
14
It's different. It was blackmail, it was pretty much rape, the game doesn't even address it.
It's a very stupid decision to take, though, and it would be understandable that Megan would consider it cheating. The MC makes this decision without consulting her and I find it unlikely Megan would want you to take that deal, if she was asked. There's not even any reason to believe Ana would keep her end of the bargain. It's in fact much more likely that she would use you having sex with her to break you and Megan up, given her motives.

Like, it is rape, since there's coercion involved. But the coercion is so weak, that there's no reason to go through with it unless you want to. Which is probably the conclusion Megan comes to, should you choose that option.
 

JamesPT85

Newbie
Oct 25, 2022
42
131
It's a very stupid decision to take, though, and it would be understandable that Megan would consider it cheating. The MC makes this decision without consulting her and I find it unlikely Megan would want you to take that deal, if she was asked. There's not even any reason to believe Ana would keep her end of the bargain. It's in fact much more likely that she would use you having sex with her to break you and Megan up, given her motives.

Like, it is rape, since there's coercion involved. But the coercion is so weak, that there's no reason to go through with it unless you want to. Which is probably the conclusion Megan comes to, should you choose that option.
Those are definitely options I wish the game gave us. But what makes you say it's weak?
 
Last edited:

07jonesj

New Member
Dec 22, 2017
10
14
Those are definitely options I wish the game gave us. But what makes you say it's weak?
As I said, there's no reason to trust Ana will follow through, and every reason to believe she wouldn't. She wants you to be with her, so either she'd extend the blackmail to "stay with me or I'll end Megan's career" or she'd tell Megan you cheated on her. The former would be far more effective blackmail, actually, since then Ana does have motive to leave Megan's career alone - keeping you around.

The only thing you get out of sleeping with Ana is... sleeping with Ana, if that's what you want. There's no reasonable expectation that you'd get anything else out of it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jumbi

JamesPT85

Newbie
Oct 25, 2022
42
131
As I said, there's no reason to trust Ana will follow through, and every reason to believe she wouldn't. She wants you to be with her, so either she'd extend the blackmail to "stay with me or I'll end Megan's career" or she'd tell Megan you cheated on her. The former would be far more effective blackmail, actually, since then Ana does have motive to leave Megan's career alone - keeping you around.

The only thing you get out of sleeping with Ana is... sleeping with Ana, if that's what you want. There's no reasonable expectation that you'd get anything else out of it.
It would be a completely different situation in the real world, but VN logic is entirely different. These kind of moments don't often give you second chances. In any case, it wasn't programmed as you assumed. She leaves her career alone and doesn't contact you again.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 07jonesj

Major Dan

New Member
Mar 8, 2019
3
2
This was an absolutely shocking experience. I loved playing it, all of it... and the ending is something else. My heart is broken.
I loved playing, but wouldn't play it twice. I can't handle it a second time.
 
  • Sad
Reactions: Jumbi

Echbert

Member
Jun 21, 2018
244
481
That's interesting, you would think that would have been a bigger discussion. She did not even know who Ana was, that she was the casting agent, or why you did it. I don't know the details, but it felt as though the last chapter was very rushed. There was definitely a lot more that could have been done with that story, like a resolution for all of the characters, for instance.
The last part of the game was rushed(ahem Rena, but if you do want a reason, Megan was cheated on b4. It's a sore point fore her, and while she is usually a pretty understanding(or at the very least gives ppl a chance to explain), and resilient person, she's also shown to be pretty sensitive. Could definitely see her just not really even wanting to talk about it, because she feels no matter what it would still hurt too much.

And let's be real a "I did it for you" would have just made her feel like absolute shit.

I just wanted the MC to be with Rena without feeling like a piece of shit lmao.
That was defintely wierd. It's like the dev realized the Rena story was so poorly done, that it wouldn' make much sense for Jonah to choose her that they just decided to write that into the story, to maintain at least some consistency. It still felt obnoxious because she's never really presented as a problematic choice, like say Ana.
 

skewllewd

Newbie
Apr 13, 2018
35
55
Ok, by chapter 5, I couldn't read anymore. There were so many cliff hangers that I had to know the ending by holding skip. I think I got the best ending possible, but I won't lie, makes me a bit sad because of that one choice. It felt like life were really rolling against her.

And it's funny. In a game about choices between women, the relationship I was most invested in, was Jonas and Liam lol.

Edit: Actually, I must ask, is there VN's like this, but written by western developers, and doesn't have sexual content? I came to realise why I love these games, it's like the goosebumps choose your adventure books when we were kids, but as adults. Furthermore, it's more character focused, and isn't troupey uwu like its Japanese counterpart.
 
Last edited:
  • Haha
Reactions: Echbert

Jumbi

Well-Known Member
Feb 17, 2020
1,442
3,753
Actually, I must ask, is there VN's like this, but written by western developers, and doesn't have sexual content? I came to realise why I love these games, it's like the goosebumps choose your adventure books when we were kids, but as adults. Furthermore, it's more character focused, and isn't troupey uwu like its Japanese counterpart.
To be honest, I enjoy playing some of the VNs in here so much mainly because of how interested I get in the story they are telling me and the characters that they introduce to me. Romance is the theme I like the most in these games. The sex part is secondary to me; I must be getting really old. :ROFLMAO:

In regards to your question, I do not know of any VN that meets your criteria. But my guess is that there must be VNs like that. Perhaps some other member of this forum can help you further.
 

skewllewd

Newbie
Apr 13, 2018
35
55
To be honest, I enjoy playing some of the VNs in here so much mainly because of how interested I get in the story they are telling me and the characters that they introduce to me. Romance is the theme I like the most in these games. The sex part is secondary to me; I must be getting really old. :ROFLMAO:

In regards to your question, I do not know of any VN that meets your criteria. But my guess is that there must be VNs like that. Perhaps some other member of this forum can help you further.
I find it hard to fap to the sex scenes. With these novels, there's just too many things stopping it. Either it takes too long to get sex scenes in between each one, or there's too many emotional moments. Alot of these highly suggested ones are simply better when I just skip past the sex lol.
 
Mar 16, 2018
39
27
Edit: Actually, I must ask, is there VN's like this, but written by western developers, and doesn't have sexual content? I came to realise why I love these games, it's like the goosebumps choose your adventure books when we were kids, but as adults. Furthermore, it's more character focused, and isn't troupey uwu like its Japanese counterpart.
I just played through Amatsutsumi, and it was one of the better stories I've seen lately. It is a bit tropey (some typical high school stuff), but the different love interests are all pretty deep, unique, and well developed imo. Death features prominently in all the stories, but I would say AL was still more emotionally taxing anyway.
 

flamingtiki

Newbie
Mar 8, 2022
21
40
I really dont post on this site, I wanted to leave a review but I guess i need to have at least three posts. Anyway I wanna say if your not sure about this game you should get it. Especially if your more grown it is such a good story and is going to leave you wanting for more.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TNTed and aura95

MarsUltor

Active Member
Aug 2, 2018
770
1,705
This game obviously evokes strong emotions in those who play it, and I'm no exception. I both loved it and hated it. The renders are absolutely top-notch, and the writing is excellent (I've played too many games where the grammar and syntax is almost unreadable, and the "plot" is virtually nonexistent).

I was generally good with the dark undertones that ran throughout the plot, but I really didn't like the "'Kobayashi Maru' moment" and its aftermath (if I had the requisite Ren'Py coding skills, I might even consider applying the "Kirk solution" to my downloaded copy of the game). As others have said, it seems somewhat contrived, as the MC appears to be at least moderately buff, and M&M are fairly petite; consequently, it seems reasonable to believe that desperation and adrenaline would prompt the MC to pick up both and carry them over each of his shoulders, or at very least to drag them both simultaneously.

Making the player face a choice with dire consequences, and those consequences, is a powerful emotional hook, but IMO it diminishes the satisfaction from playing the game. Please note that this post is less of a criticism and more of an honest expression of how I felt about my game experience.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Echbert

Echbert

Member
Jun 21, 2018
244
481
This game obviously evokes strong emotions in those who play it, and I'm no exception. I both loved it and hated it. The renders are absolutely top-notch, and the writing is excellent (I've played too many games where the grammar and syntax is almost unreadable, and the "plot" is virtually nonexistent).

I was generally good with the dark undertones that ran throughout the plot, but I really didn't like the "'Kobayashi Maru' moment" and its aftermath (if I had the requisite Ren'Py coding skills, I might even consider applying the "Kirk solution" to my downloaded copy of the game). As others have said, it seems somewhat contrived, as the MC appears to be at least moderately buff, and M&M are fairly petite; consequently, it seems reasonable to believe that desperation and adrenaline would prompt the MC to pick up both and carry them over each of his shoulders, or at very least to drag them both simultaneously.

Making the player face a choice with dire consequences, and those consequences, is a powerful emotional hook, but IMO it diminishes the satisfaction from playing the game. Please note that this post is less of a criticism and more of an honest expression of how I felt about my game experience.
Prety much, it's a great concept but the execution was poor. Imo opinion the girls should have been seperated and the choice would have simply been who to save first. It would still have the same impact, but now make actual sense Some player would have still been angry because the choice wasn't "obvious" but sometimes you have to take the risk of pissing ppl off with choices in games.
 
4.60 star(s) 803 Votes