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Skeltom

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But I think you should see it like "real life", if you want to have the "full experience" with any woman, you can't fuck with other women as you see fit. :D
That is only kind of true. In real life you can hang out with a friend and still go on a date with someone who is interested on the same day, it's not either or. You also have the choice as a person on who you would want to spend time with. Say like at the movies for example... Everything in this game is so restrictive. There is so little wiggle room to explore your option that you almost have to be a stalker with the LIs. The only one you've know for longer than work week is Ashley but in order to stay "faithful" you have to stick to them like glue.
 

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That is only kind of true. In real life you can hang out with a friend and still go on a date with someone who is interested on the same day, it's not either or. You also have the choice as a person on who you would want to spend time with. Say like at the movies for example... Everything in this game is so restrictive. There is so little wiggle room to explore your option that you almost have to be a stalker with the LIs. The only one you've know for longer than work week is Ashley but in order to stay "faithful" you have to stick to them like glue.
Well since I was talking about starting several routes at the same time, or about somehow being present at two places or being in different conversations which happens simultaneously, but yeah, I do agree that it should be possible to start the routes with the LI's at multiple points, instead of being forced into going for a very narrow set path and only that it's only via this path that this LI is possible to pursue.

So I think we can agree on that some of the "variable checks", which opens up for the paths shouldn't be as they are atm. since they restrict how you can play, if you are interested in a certain LI. But you should still focus on the woman you like, but I think the largest problem is actually the time frame in total, as you mentioned yourself, it's only been 5 days.
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It would make it so much easier for the dev to make it a true harem game without all the inconsistencies if the story had a longer time frame, since it would make it possible for the multiple relationships to develop properly and for the women to interact with each other and so on.
 
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Sancho1969

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Nice, have loved all your mods so far (y) , however it really needs to be added on this threads front page.
Likely won't ever happen since I'm considered as a black sheep by the "powers that be". It is what it is, I ain't gonna change.

But if what I can extrapolate from your thread is true, it seems like you haven't looked at the...
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The mod's guide nor the cheats activate anything doubled that otherwise couldn't be. I took ~3 days writing just the cheat section alone so that I could save the player from themselves. You can't select multiple paths that couldn't be obtained through normal play. There's a reason: the logical conditions in the VN prohibit it anyway. Even if a cheat allowed you to select all LI's route variables to be True, the VN would NOT play out that way due to the conditional math.

If that's what you were eluding to then no worries, SanchoMod is tighter than Sung-Ji's ass.
 

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But you should still focus on the woman you like, but I think the largest problem is actually the time frame in total, as you mentioned yourself, it's only been 5 days.
Exactly. Another problem with that is the fact at this point if you don't focus on just 2 or three most of them won't have enough content for a player to even know if they like them or not. You are locked out of so many paths so early that you have to tiptoe around every situation. It's also pointless to make some of the scenes play out so rigidly. Again, going to the movies. If you are on Ashley's path you go with her, if your not and on Vicky's path you go with her instead, not with Ashley and on Vic and Sung's path you go with Vicky, if your not on any you go with Ashley. The player has zero say in it for no reason at all. You can get on Ashly's path after the movies I think and still be on Jenn's path because if you aren't with anyone for the movies the player is forced to ask her out on a date after it over. Still, having to jump through all of those hoops just to be on Jenny and Ashley's path at the same time is ridiculous. Especially when every interaction with them makes it seem like they are both vying for the MC's affection when they aren't.

Also there is a variable for an Ashley Harem but who knows how that is going to work because just getting with her cuts off Jenny, Sung Ji and Vicky so it wont be a Harem with who you want, just who your "allowed" to. The most I was able to get with Jenny's group was Jenny, Jade and Rebecca, and I think that only worked because Jade's code is broken at the moment.
 

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The mod's guide nor the cheats activate anything doubled that otherwise couldn't be. I took ~3 days writing just the cheat section alone so that I could save the player from themselves. You can't select multiple paths that couldn't be obtained through normal play.
Sooo... I just figured out the "problem" with the some of the double paths. I haven't looked them all through yet, but that may be the same problem all the way. :rolleyes:

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If that's what you were eluding to then no worries, SanchoMod is tighter than Sung-Ji's ass.
Hahah like I said previously you have never failed to deliver a top tier mod :D Always a great experience to use them, so I really can't understand why you are being "blacklisted" :unsure:
 
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Hahah like I said previously you have never failed to deliver a top tier mod :D Always a great experience to use them, so I really can't understand why you are being "blacklisted" :unsure:
Thank you for the kind words. I'd elaborate on it but this thread is not really a place for me to vent on the dirty laundry scattered around these parts. Let's just say I'm not in the "buddy system". ;)
 

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Thank you for the kind words. I'd elaborate on it but this thread is not really a place for me to vent on the dirty laundry scattered around these parts. Let's just say I'm not in the "buddy system". ;)
Of course, I didn't want you to go into details about why and such, it was more in the line of my surprise to it in general. :)

I just need to remember that I have to go and check your mod list, everytime I stumble over a new game I enjoy. To see if you have a made mod for it. Before resorting to the other modders. (y)
 

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Of course, I didn't want you to go into details about why and such, it was more in the line of my surprise to it in general. :)

I just need to remember that I have to go and check your mod list, everytime I stumble over a new game I enjoy. To see if you have a made mod for it. Before resorting to the other modders. (y)
Tbh, it's not a competition. I don't even look at the work of others, I just write what I want and to attempt at keeping things uniformed so no matter what VN it's applied to that it's like wearing your favorite pair of jeans. That's why the mod's appearance changes slowly. If I go too far it would shock folks so I've spent the last year folding in features a little at a time from what I made last year. I just do my best to offer as many options as possible that are relevant (stripping out those that are useless) and insuring everything can be turned Off as desired to the point it's basically unmodded with all of it shutdown.

Again, it's just different approaches. A player should use/not use whatever suits them. But, they should at least be given the opportunity to know that a product exists.
 

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Also there is a variable for an Ashley Harem but who knows how that is going to work because just getting with her cuts off Jenny, Sung Ji and Vicky so it wont be a Harem with who you want, just who your "allowed" to. The most I was able to get with Jenny's group was Jenny, Jade and Rebecca, and I think that only worked because Jade's code is broken at the moment.
True, but in most harem games, you are restricted to only certain "groups", since not all LI's can "play" well together. It's very rarely a 100% pick and choose "buffet" of women you want in your harem, often they kinda need to at least like each other somewhat, to be accepted in the harem.

And in my opinion, the first woman in the harem, kinda is the "Alpha woman" who'll be the one deciding, whom she'll allow to enter the "special" relationship.
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Again, it's just different approaches. A player should use/not use whatever suits them. But, they should at least be given the opportunity to know that a product exists.
Exactly, that is what I meant by you should be added there. Since I didn't know anything about it, till I accidently saw your comment right after my own. And I am pretty sure many others doesn't know you have a mod for this either, unless they follow you directly. Which is sad if you ask me.

And I didn't mean it as a competition, more like I would love to know that yours existed, so I had to option to try it out and see if I liked it better. :)
It's like a waiter who only gives you half the menu, because he doesn't like the chef, which makes the other dishes.. :unsure: It's straight up bad service!
 

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Tbh, it's not a competition. I don't even look at the work of others, I just write what I want and to attempt at keeping things uniformed so no matter what VN it's applied to that it's like wearing your favorite pair of jeans. That's why the mod's appearance changes slowly. If I go too far it would shock folks so I've spent the last year folding in features a little at a time from what I made last year. I just do my best to offer as many options as possible that are relevant (stripping out those that are useless) and insuring everything can be turned Off as desired to the point it's basically unmodded with all of it shutdown.

Again, it's just different approaches. A player should use/not use whatever suits them. But, they should at least be given the opportunity to know that a product exists.
I checked out your mod myself and I don't even use someone else's work 99% of the time. It does it's best to iron this one out so good job. If I wasn't such a tinker myself I would probably use yours.
 

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Hello, I have a question.. Will there be a bad ending in this game or are there other endings planned?? It would be a shame if the game went to waste at one end
 

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Good morning. I want to address something regarding the way SanchoMod has it's "SanchoCheats" routes coded so folks understand why I spend so many damn hours coding it the way that it works (you can't select every route, it automatically kills route combinations that are impossible through normal play). It's important as at first glance a player that doesn't understand what's going on in the dev's code behind the scene might feel I'm short-changing them... but actually I'm saving you from possible massive confusion during your playthrough IF you use the cheats to "change routes". I'll use the most recent request for me to change this as an example of explanation so I don't have to keep rewriting:

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So, please realize that having "all routes On", even if a cheat system says it's doing it, it's NOT. It's simply impossible. I hope that helps clear some of the air regarding "... why can't I get/see all content in one playthrough / ... your mod sux" postings. Have a good one. -Sancho
 

y0rthan

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Ash is the curve ball that changes things a bit but on the other group of LI's. You can easily have already fucked three of them before Ch5 is even over.
Yeah, I'm starting to pick up on this: my mistake was in trying to combine Jennifer and Ashley, since both of them seem key. I noticed that if I don't go on the date with Jen, her points stay rather low for the rest of the game so far.
 

Skeltom

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Yeah, I'm starting to pick up on this: my mistake was in trying to combine Jennifer and Ashley, since both of them seem key. I noticed that if I don't go on the date with Jen, her points stay rather low for the rest of the game so far.
You have to go on a date with her to even start her path at this point in the game. You can still flirt and get points but you aren't on her path. The game makes you "choose sides", I guess. It's her or Ashley but not both. But choosing Jen also cuts off Val because the choices to start their paths happen at the exact same time. And choosing Valery instead of going to the pool cuts of Rebecca, also Jade for a time. You need to be very carful in this one if you want to start and stay on a path.
 
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