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My guess would be this weekend after 2-3 days of testing.
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- Oct 20, 2019
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Have you played Become a Rock Star? A game with great renders too. The dev makes basically the same amount of renders than L&P in 4 months. Why almost nobody treat him as lazy or scammer like they do here with L&P? Because his game isn't a slow burn, that game is pretty straight forward: a male than can fuck with every girl he meets. The story it's pretty basic and the dialogs nothing exceptional. He is going to release the last update of the game soon and the game in total will have less than 10.000 renders. Guess what, L&P already made more than 10.000 renders for this game. If L&P would have done something like BARS, he already have finished the game and the people in general wouldn't accuse him of being a scammer, milker or lazy.
As I have said, L&P according to the quality delivered is in the standard pace. It's his game, his story, that it's not, but that's the essence of this game, the slow burn. Taking all of this into account, this game will be more than 3 times, or even 4 times, larger than a standard story like BARS, meaning that the only way possible to finish this game in a reasonable time is hiring at least 3 more artists to make the renders together with L&P. My advice, as I said before, it's that L&P should make the renders of the most important lewd scenes and deliver the rest to other artists.
We will not convince him to hire 3 artists more if we insult him or accuse him of being lazy or a milker, we should try to convince him talking in a decent way and explaining the necessity of this. And saying that even if the other artists don't match exactly his quality, we don't care, it's the lewd scenes, that he makes, that matters the most. This story shouldn't be done by a single person, it's larger than the rest.
As I have said, L&P according to the quality delivered is in the standard pace. It's his game, his story, that it's not, but that's the essence of this game, the slow burn. Taking all of this into account, this game will be more than 3 times, or even 4 times, larger than a standard story like BARS, meaning that the only way possible to finish this game in a reasonable time is hiring at least 3 more artists to make the renders together with L&P. My advice, as I said before, it's that L&P should make the renders of the most important lewd scenes and deliver the rest to other artists.
We will not convince him to hire 3 artists more if we insult him or accuse him of being lazy or a milker, we should try to convince him talking in a decent way and explaining the necessity of this. And saying that even if the other artists don't match exactly his quality, we don't care, it's the lewd scenes, that he makes, that matters the most. This story shouldn't be done by a single person, it's larger than the rest.
i want it, i want that update NOW!!! 
GIB
GIB
I can't comment on Become a Rock Star because I've never played it but I don't believe the criticisms of L&P are mainly centred on the lack of sex. What happens is that a lot of posts, consisting of one or two lines questioning if/why/when etc., relating to sex with someone other than Liam denote that the quick-fap brigade are not happy & well....that's tough. Anyone wanting to see pixel people in sexual union, blissful or otherwise, are spoiled for choice on F95. I've never called L&P a milker, or thrown personal insults around, (nor will I) & the slow burn is one of the main reasons I've stuck with this VN for 4 years.
I've played fuckfest games & the stories are nowhere near as good as AWAM, when it is at its' best & L&P is on form. Yes, of course, we all want to see some extra-marital sex & sooner would be preferable to later but the lack of it doesn't deter most long-term fans, IMO.
What draws criticism is the pacing of the update schedule, lack of meaningful communication, proliferation of side stories, unnecessary characters, duplicate stories, broken promises & the way in which any measure, devised ostensibly to speed things up, always has exactly the opposite effect. Such issues would attract criticism to any game & they do. It's not just L&P that receives it. Fans of AWAM tend to be more involved than average for this type of game, even passionate about it at times. That could be seen as a form of tribute to the Dev's creativity & render quality. This, combined with the size of this thread gives a certain impression.
All of this could be altered for the better with a few judicious changes but those who've been here long enough are aware that this won't happen. What that means is that fans are conscious of the fact that they'll probably never see the end of the story, which leads to frustration & so on until the criticism comes full circle.
Then there are the never-ending criticisms along the lines of, 'what are you doing here?', 'why don't you make your own game?', 'what gives pirates the right to say anything?' These fans seem to miss the point but their comments don't exactly assist in reducing toxicity levels.
I've said numerous times that most of those who've stuck with the game want to see it & the Dev succeed & flourish but the current situation doesn't bode well for the long-term.
- Sep 15, 2020
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Just want to ask is you are Frustrated with something how many days will you keep expressing your frustration. 5 days, 10 days, 1 month, 2 months, for some here it has become a daily routine they are willing to carry on for years.
Is a single porn game that significant part of ones life that they have to express frustration for months on end. Why is moving on to another game not a plausible option for these people.
They say that many games are delivering similiar art, many Devs are very organized, they don't lie, none of the scenes of Awam come off as original to many here, they are fast, they communicate better, give better teasers, don't milk, Basically L&P is the worst and quite a number of Devs are the epitome of professional and work ethics and Quality. Still when you look at these people's posts, they are almost 90% on this thread only, and that to only complaining.
So can you explain this mentality, because honestly if something is frustrating even little children give up on it after sometime, unlike here.
- Feb 26, 2019
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Everything is going according to plan.... will be out in time for the holiday! March 8!
I have a hunch that Sophia is going to love it... This update! She will (for the first time), touch the source of life with her hand or lips!
I have a hunch that Sophia is going to love it... This update! She will (for the first time), touch the source of life with her hand or lips!
- Jan 12, 2019
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the game will be launched in the first days of March, knowing the way of working of L&P will make sure to cover the profits in March since February has it coveredUpdate will release at the end of the month. Probably FEB 29.
I could ask the same question but from the POV of why do you feel the need to jump to the defence of L&P when anyone expresses discontent? Do you expect the criticism to end? Do you want me & others to go & play inferior games? (I do play them anyway). It's true that I've wasted far too much time commenting on this thread but that's my choice. If all the critics vanished overnight, they'd be replaced by others, possibly with less investment in AWAM. Do you want us all to just go away...."end of" style?
There's as much chance of that as there is of yourself ceasing to defend L&P at every turn.
- Sep 23, 2020
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Firstly what statement in my entire message was "DEFENDING" L&P's deeds. I just asked if everything has been so Frustrating for months why continue with the frustration for so long.
THAT IS THE MAIN POINT I AM MAKING AND HAVE ALWAYS MADE HERE.
Again, Criticism and Trolling are different things. When everything he does or says is ridiculed then it is not a healthy criticism. I gave you numerous examples in my message of how people here try to explain that this game is no special and how every game nowadays is better or on par. So really why are those people here. None answer me on that, just run away with talking about something entirely different.
Final update before the World war 3. I'm going to save my cum for this update. Then I can die in peace.
Maybe you're the only one getting frustrated?
And again, because you and your crew apparently don't understand: when people complain about the game or its development its on topic.
You and your crew, on the other hand, just come here to complain about people complaining. Is it that hard to see the difference?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, you and your crew are the ones that want to silence other people's. That's it.
Stop trying to shame people into not giving their opinion, it's a free forum, simple.
- Jun 11, 2020
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Please don’t compare this game with Decent Monkey”Fashion Business” not even close
Not sure which game has been out longer but FB has regular updates every 3 months and there’s also SEX, plenty of sex in every update, & not just with the main character but with side characters & some of the best animations in a porn game
(Also has a 2nd game out “milfs of sunville” which is pretty good
So the only thing these 2 games have in common is they are both female protagonist
- Dec 5, 2017
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FB vs AWAM is like quantity vs quality. The devs aim to different groups of user
- Sep 27, 2017
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My question is not about the update. So please don't ban me or be angry. I want to ask about update on recent updated info on addon - updated version. Is there any update on this?
Edit: or at least if there is updated progress bar since the other one is 100%
Edit: or at least if there is updated progress bar since the other one is 100%
I love your posts much more than the boring and repeated discussion about time and milkmen.So before the thread gets hold hostage of the "when update?" "why not update?" "what addon?" "any hero?" "when next update" (if it is not already the case) let's make a little recap of what's to come in the update.
Development
This is gonna be the Chapter 2 of AWAM, meaning we won't get the previous events released with this one and a new automatic(?) update system is put in place to download only the new content, at least for the patrons. We won't see this in action before 0.160. It's not clear if this is related to the mysterious "add-on" that has been delayed the release, that should be more something related to the game itself.
There will be probably a patch to download and install in the old 0.150 that enables to save all your choices and load them in the new version as explained here.
Content
4th Task during the literature lesson
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Sophia has to dress in a "lascivious business style with sexy stockings" as per Aiden order in the previous Nathalie's event.
From the first teaser we know that "She also won't go exactly like this "revealing" above to work." (patreon post)
She is wearing a bra contrary to Aiden requests, so it is to see if she will remove it just before class or she will e.g. decide to try to bargain with Aiden.
In any case from the second teaser we know she is not wearing it, so it will be interesting to see at which point she will need to take it off, how and where.
Now, the common speculations is that the task will play along the lines of the first 2 at different extents and seemingly in a more daring challenge to embarrass Sophia in front of the class. More than that, including explicit nudity or sex acts in front of the whole class, is highly improbable and most likely not in the spirit of the story (at least so far).
The second teaser obviously made speculations go wild. What is she doing in that squatting position in the classroom? Is she still wearing panties (it seems so) or is she removing them? Can the other students (Evelyn) see that? Is it really part of the task? Are all the students still actually in the classroom or e.g. is that happening during the break with only Aiden and possibly Andre? (and Jennifer)? Or is it just some red herring to mislead us as usual?
Another interesting aspect, beside the nature of the task itself, would be to see if the 3 possible endings[1] for the previous 3rd task will somehow affect this event. Whether it will be just a matter of slight changes of the dialogues or some actions will be different. **For example** whether Sophia went through all the groping with Ares **could** be tied to the following bonus event?
Bonus event
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We have been given 3 teasers for the bonus event. All we know is that Sophia is watching something happening in the corridor (1st teaser), probably Aiden, Andre and Jennifer furtively entering an empty classroom (2nd pixelated teaser) and once inside everything is set to make believe that Jennifer is putting up a show for Aiden and Jennifer (3rd teaser).
Now, so many questions here! First, why the pixelated teaser?? What's hiding behind the pixelated cloud? After the 3rd teaser it might seem obvious that they are Andre and Jennifer. But why then covering them? Could it be Sophia instead? Or is it hiding the fact that the 2 students are signalling Sophia to join them?
Is Sophia going to peep on them from the glass of the door? Or is she even inside the room with them? And why? And, above all, where is her purse???
Are they now involving Sophia in a recurrent routine they had? In any case, will there be the inevitable, usual interruption, like someone walking on them (like in the alternate teasers by eastdot. )?
L&P has said that this update will be "hot af" and that the new feature/addon will play a fundamental role for better experiencing the scene, hence the delayed release. Most of us agree that it cannot be anything else than animation, given the various hints (e.g. converting the asset for Blender). There could be also sound involved and someone I think went as far as proposing a full navigable 3D environment... Probably too much?!!
Sure thing the update has been hyped a lot, already when it comes to Aiden's tasks there are always a lot of expectations and curiosity, now with all the mysterious teasers and the new "feature" they are at a new high.
Don Morello - quid pro quo?
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This is supposedly a very short scene in which Sophia will ask for help to deal with Aiden, but with a potential big turn in the whole story.
From how the things are at the moment it seems that it will only happen if Sophia made Larry particularly happy showing at least her breasts. That's the condition for her to think about asking for help right after the call during Nathalie event.
And it is to see if Sophia has the choice to go to Morello refusing the 4th task or **after** the task, in a "enough is enough" moment.
It will be also interesting to see if she can ask for help even if she didn't go that far. If so, there could be a deal to be made with Morello, as it may have some conditions on his own. If Sophia made Larry very happy, Morello, beside scratching the whole debt, is even feeling in debt with her, so he **could** do it for "free". In all the other conditions, if it were to be the case, there could be some strings attached. Which, obviously, is going to open new interesting developments in the story.
Unrelated to this release but more for the story down the road, it will be interesting if Bennet is mentioned at all in this update as we know that Morello can be a solution for him as well. But only for either of the 2 of them. Probably Aiden has the "priority" and if you choose to stay on Aiden's path will you get the option later? Or, e.g., there will be a quick and surprising appearance of Bennet that instills the dilemma on which one of the two use Morello's card?
As usual all the information about this update and the next events is available here thanks to the hard and strenuous work of Apollodore (even from his mountain retreat!
[1] Once she accepts to meet with Aiden, the task is automatically fulfilled.
On the other hand depending on the choices during the art class there are 3 different paths:
1) she refuses to dress as Aphrodite, there will be small talk with students at the end but not showing of the paintings and no Ares/Aiden at all.
2) if she stop Ares from groping her, there will be small talk with students at the end but not showing of the paintings and Aiden won't reveal Ares was him.
3) if she has wine and allows Ares, she will look at the paintings at the end and Aiden reveals he was Ares.
My theory.
Teaser 1. Sophia hesitates whether to go to Don Morello for help, as she dresses as Aiden has instructed but in a bra.
I love your posts much more than the boring and repeated discussion about time and milkmen.So before the thread gets hold hostage of the "when update?" "why not update?" "what addon?" "any hero?" "when next update" (if it is not already the case) let's make a little recap of what's to come in the update.
Development
This is gonna be the Chapter 2 of AWAM, meaning we won't get the previous events released with this one and a new automatic(?) update system is put in place to download only the new content, at least for the patrons. We won't see this in action before 0.160. It's not clear if this is related to the mysterious "add-on" that has been delayed the release, that should be more something related to the game itself.
There will be probably a patch to download and install in the old 0.150 that enables to save all your choices and load them in the new version as explained here.
Content
4th Task during the literature lesson
View attachment 1670134 . View attachment 1670137
Sophia has to dress in a "lascivious business style with sexy stockings" as per Aiden order in the previous Nathalie's event.
From the first teaser we know that "She also won't go exactly like this "revealing" above to work." (patreon post)
She is wearing a bra contrary to Aiden requests, so it is to see if she will remove it just before class or she will e.g. decide to try to bargain with Aiden.
In any case from the second teaser we know she is not wearing it, so it will be interesting to see at which point she will need to take it off, how and where.
Now, the common speculations is that the task will play along the lines of the first 2 at different extents and seemingly in a more daring challenge to embarrass Sophia in front of the class. More than that, including explicit nudity or sex acts in front of the whole class, is highly improbable and most likely not in the spirit of the story (at least so far).
The second teaser obviously made speculations go wild. What is she doing in that squatting position in the classroom? Is she still wearing panties (it seems so) or is she removing them? Can the other students (Evelyn) see that? Is it really part of the task? Are all the students still actually in the classroom or e.g. is that happening during the break with only Aiden and possibly Andre? (and Jennifer)? Or is it just some red herring to mislead us as usual?
Another interesting aspect, beside the nature of the task itself, would be to see if the 3 possible endings[1] for the previous 3rd task will somehow affect this event. Whether it will be just a matter of slight changes of the dialogues or some actions will be different. **For example** whether Sophia went through all the groping with Ares **could** be tied to the following bonus event?
Bonus event
View attachment 1670139 View attachment 1670142 . View attachment 1670141
We have been given 3 teasers for the bonus event. All we know is that Sophia is watching something happening in the corridor (1st teaser), probably Aiden, Andre and Jennifer furtively entering an empty classroom (2nd pixelated teaser) and once inside everything is set to make believe that Jennifer is putting up a show for Aiden and Jennifer (3rd teaser).
Now, so many questions here! First, why the pixelated teaser?? What's hiding behind the pixelated cloud? After the 3rd teaser it might seem obvious that they are Andre and Jennifer. But why then covering them? Could it be Sophia instead? Or is it hiding the fact that the 2 students are signalling Sophia to join them?
Is Sophia going to peep on them from the glass of the door? Or is she even inside the room with them? And why? And, above all, where is her purse???
Are they now involving Sophia in a recurrent routine they had? In any case, will there be the inevitable, usual interruption, like someone walking on them (like in the alternate teasers by eastdot. )?
L&P has said that this update will be "hot af" and that the new feature/addon will play a fundamental role for better experiencing the scene, hence the delayed release. Most of us agree that it cannot be anything else than animation, given the various hints (e.g. converting the asset for Blender). There could be also sound involved and someone I think went as far as proposing a full navigable 3D environment... Probably too much?!!
Sure thing the update has been hyped a lot, already when it comes to Aiden's tasks there are always a lot of expectations and curiosity, now with all the mysterious teasers and the new "feature" they are at a new high.
Don Morello - quid pro quo?
View attachment 1670144
This is supposedly a very short scene in which Sophia will ask for help to deal with Aiden, but with a potential big turn in the whole story.
From how the things are at the moment it seems that it will only happen if Sophia made Larry particularly happy showing at least her breasts. That's the condition for her to think about asking for help right after the call during Nathalie event.
And it is to see if Sophia has the choice to go to Morello refusing the 4th task or **after** the task, in a "enough is enough" moment.
It will be also interesting to see if she can ask for help even if she didn't go that far. If so, there could be a deal to be made with Morello, as it may have some conditions on his own. If Sophia made Larry very happy, Morello, beside scratching the whole debt, is even feeling in debt with her, so he **could** do it for "free". In all the other conditions, if it were to be the case, there could be some strings attached. Which, obviously, is going to open new interesting developments in the story.
Unrelated to this release but more for the story down the road, it will be interesting if Bennet is mentioned at all in this update as we know that Morello can be a solution for him as well. But only for either of the 2 of them. Probably Aiden has the "priority" and if you choose to stay on Aiden's path will you get the option later? Or, e.g., there will be a quick and surprising appearance of Bennet that instills the dilemma on which one of the two use Morello's card?
As usual all the information about this update and the next events is available here thanks to the hard and strenuous work of Apollodore (even from his mountain retreat!
[1] Once she accepts to meet with Aiden, the task is automatically fulfilled.
On the other hand depending on the choices during the art class there are 3 different paths:
1) she refuses to dress as Aphrodite, there will be small talk with students at the end but not showing of the paintings and no Ares/Aiden at all.
2) if she stop Ares from groping her, there will be small talk with students at the end but not showing of the paintings and Aiden won't reveal Ares was him.
3) if she has wine and allows Ares, she will look at the paintings at the end and Aiden reveals he was Ares.
My theory.
Teaser 1. Sophia hesitates whether to go to Don Morello for help, as she dresses as Aiden has instructed but in a bra.
SOPHIA DECIDES TO ASK DON MORELLO FOR HELP
Option 1, She goes straight to see Don Morello without going to school (the dress and bra in the last images are the same as in the first image). It would be strange, she has to go to her job.
Option 2, She goes to class, rejects Aiden's requests (in whole or in part) and goes to see Don Morello in the same clothes she went to class in.
SOPHIA CONTINUES TO PERFORM THE TASKS IMPOSED ON HER BY AIDEN.
Option 1. Sophia is dressed as in the first image and Aiden punishes her by demanding that she remove her bra and also her panties (image 2). She puts the bra and the panties in the bag.
Option 2. Sophia is without a bra in the class, the bra is in her bag, and Aiden demands that she remove her panties (image 2). The problem is we can´t see the bag in pic 2.
Option 3. Sophia keeps her bra in the bag before the class and the bag is stolen by André and/or Jennifer (?) at the beginning of the class. Aiden ask for panties if she wants her bag back.
In either case Aiden demands proof such as her lifting her skirt in class (hint of the gift of Santa lifting the elf girl's skirt).
Option 1. Sophia says she can´t do that in class because she is nude and they go in the break to another place. This option is not very credible because she could do what she did showing her panties in another task.
Option 2. Sophia refuses to show her nude crotch, and her handbag with her underwear is taken away by Andre and/or Jennifer?
Sophia follows them around the school to retrieve her clothes but cannot shout at them because it will be discovered that she is not wearing anything under her sexy dress. She follows them from a distance in anger (image 3).
I think in the hidden image (image 4) Jennifer(?) and André are showing Sophia her bag, bra and maybe her panties, while Aiden opens the classroom laughing. If Sophia wants them back she has to go in with them.
From the situation in image 5, Sophia is inside the classroom when Jennifer? is taking off her clothes. I think Sophia will also have to undress in order to get her underwear and purse back, probably at that moment other events will happen (groping, the janitor, the principal or another teacher discovers them, who knows). That will be the special part and the add-on (it can be animations with interaction about what she takes off, who touches or what touches).
Of course,all of this will be wrong, and LP will surprise us as always
- Mar 4, 2020
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Interesting theory. But I don't have Sophia's purse in any of the photos. Interestingly, without her purse, she wouldn't even have gone to Don Morello's. Strange ? Even Sophia doesn't have her purse before she leaves the house, so the purse is waiting for them at school?
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