Sabertooth__

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It is these inner monologues that are the weakest in the game. Sophia should think if I have become a paid whore or not? Or maybe I will start to like it
With The present Sophia if such thoughts occur to her, she will freak out and put to an end to it. She is doubting everything she does, in every route, she is uncomfortable and doesn't think it's right. The last thing she would need to hear or think of is that she is a prostitute. The very idea will logically derail her from doing anything further.

It is because she thinks there is a noble side to it, that her actions are motivated by harmless and good intentions, that it will be helpful for the people around her is the reason why she is continuing to do it on all routes.

What you are saying will basically steal the very reason from her and she it will immediately put a stop to everything because it is going to kill her conscience and she will like to distance herself from all of this.
 

PietruccioTheHilander

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So let's unpack a little bit what happened in this v0.170

It was announced with 230 renders, to be precise they are 230 for the tutoring + 2 for the cafe scene +1 for the "An hour earlier" transition.
Now, I'm curious to know how I told you so knew that they were 233 hours before the actual release.:unsure:

This only reinforces this theory. Just kidding! ;) Or am I? :ROFLMAO:

Cafe scene
As anticipated that was just a filler for those on the nursing job, it only serves as a change of location and to get the call from the principal Johnson (of which we were told it was coming at some point). And we did not get to see the back of the dress. ;)
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Tutoring job
  • Leah has been introduced, really briefly, as well as the mysterious woman of the 2nd teaser, Mrs Tylor, a colleague of Ava who is helping her with the review work.
    One of the reasons for this exchange at the beginning was probably to give a pretext for Ava to forget to take or inspect Sophia's purse. It could also be explained with Ava trusting Sophia more, considering the good feedback from the boys.

  • Leah didn't play any part in this event, we'll see if she will be back in the event of the next PD. The only thing that transpired from the dialogues is that "Ava seemed more easygoing with her daughter compared to her sons. But appearances could also be deceptive". Which, of course and as usual, doesn't say anything definite and keep all possibilities open.

  • Again, similar to the cafe scene, there was not much of a transition between the beginning of the event and where one was left to. But then the little "twist" and flashback to an hour earlier with Sophia dressing and planning the lesson made it much more logical. This is the first time that this narrative device is used for making a posteriori choices.

  • As for the lessons, we anticipated many things that actually happened.
    • Sophia came prepared with the condoms and the banana in the purse for a practical demo. The question, though, is how she thought she could smuggle them in if Ava had made her leave the purse. Probably there was no plan B and she got lucky that Ava was busy and distracted by the work and the introductions.

    • Similarly, we talked about the smartphone, which Sophia forgot about when the apostles insisted for the live-modeling thing. Then the justification came with the poor internet quality (even if she was just making a call, but let's not nitpick). Nevertheless, for the next time, she could still save some pictures on the phone to show to the students, in case that, again, Ava lets her keep the purse.

  • A thing that should be noted is that the apostles are taking notes. This could be actually dangerous because Ava could go through their stuff and see what they are learning (same reason e.g. Sophia collected the condom wrappers). Even though what they are writing down are just "scientific notes", those subjects were not agreed on when Ava and Sophia made the deal. Let's see if that could be an issue in the following.

  • On a side note we learned that their parents aren't together anymore, which wasn't mentioned before. Ava was only introduced as a single mother without any details about the marriage.

  • Not surprisingly, the call from Principal Johnson was used as narrative device to push things a little further. This is obviously a classic trope and he often used that in the past, whether for groping or teasing, especially behind a half-opened door.

  • The topics that were completely covered in this one were condoms, preliminaries (hj, bj), breasts and nipples anatomy, breastfeeding, the erogenous zones, and, in part, lingerie, kissing.
  • The topics that were briefly mentioned but left for later were pregnancy and baby development, sexual hormones, a brief explanation orgasm, and female genitalia.


What to expect next
The event left a lot of topics on the table and hints on what could happen next time.
  • She left some "homework" to do for the next time, so inevitably there will a be a "debriefing" on that, whether they have been successful etc. Obviously from a pure scientific and detached point of view :unsure:;)
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  • She promised to bring some lingerie, with again the big problem of smuggle it in. She says she cannot wear it in the summer and that she might not get lucky with the purse next time. So let's see what she will plan this time
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  • she also promised to think something for practical exercises for "how to properly touch a woman's breasts", we will see if she come up with something next time.
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  • the apostles are now intrigued by the female genitalia, so she will face again the same challenge as this time to satisfy their "curiosity" and at least at the beginning find a non-too-obvious way.
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Other info
From the text we now know that the next lesson will be at 1pm next day, and probably around the same time there will be the alternative event of the 1st side job at the nursing home. Incidentally, this also reveals that the tutoring job was normally not scheduled for Saturday according to they deal they made and which we still don't know. It could be that the tutoring should occur regularly every day from Mon to Fri or the arrangement is made every time, so with an irregular schedule.

We also got to know that she will be driving Dylan to the football match at 3:30pm. So most probably the 3 consecutive Sophia/Dylan events scheduled between noon, afternoon and the evening after the side jobs will probably revolve around Dylan's football match from the driving, the match, and the return. It will be interesting to see how these events will play out, considering that also Zac will be there as a member of the team. One possibility, given the context, ***could*** be e.g. that one of the events would advance the cuckold route for Dylan. But obviously these are just mere speculations.
always great analyzes. expose your doubts directly to L&P, to me lately he answered in a courteous way
 
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Sadowdark

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With The present Sophia if such thoughts occur to her, she will freak out and put to an end to it. She is doubting everything she does, in every route, she is uncomfortable and doesn't think it's right. The last thing she would need to hear or think of is that she is a prostitute. The very idea will logically derail her from doing anything further.

It is because she thinks there is a noble side to it, that her actions are motivated by harmless and good intentions, that it will be helpful for the people around her is the reason why she is continuing to do it on all routes.

What you are saying will basically steal the very reason from her and she it will immediately put a stop to everything because it is going to kill her conscience and she will like to distance herself from all of this.
But somehow I didn't notice that he had a conscience. Somehow her conscience doesn't tell her that she is doing wrong or right. He doesn't tell her this because others only think of Sophia as a sexual object that is naive and easy to manipulate. And she doesn't care.
 
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Sadowdark

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I think the timing of the next lesson is interesting. Ava asked Sophia, on short notice, to give her 3 sons a lesson on a Saturday. I'm wondering if Sophia will have more latitude to teach If Ava is also relying on Sophia to cover for her if she goes out shopping - groceries or what not. Leah could be busy and not available Or Leah could return early and check on the boys' lessons only to discover that they are much more 'hands on' that her Mom would want. A nice cliff hanger would be Leah quietly revealing to Sophia that she knows about the lessons (cue phone video) and she'd love to talk to Sophia about her own curiosities... (again - the first part is more likely, and any goodies left in the car for a possible show and tell could then be gathered after Ava departs).
guess Ava only talked about paying double Sophia's salary, no, should Sophia be teaching on Saturday?
 

Sadowdark

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Let's wait 2 weeks (or so) for the first teaser to have a minimum of context and some basis.
So far we know it will be hotter than the previous one and, unconfirmed, she might show her breasts (again, for the 4th time in the same day).

The (too) obvious theme would be a discussion about what happened the previous night ("Get lost, Sam. We'll talk tomorrow"), the promise that things have to stop for only to escalate again (e.g. another cello lesson or some other thing that bring them in a more intimate environment). Nothing that has been already said here in the forum. Let's see if the teaser(s) will give some better hints.
Except that Sophia tells the apostles to take off the condoms and nothing tells about them so only our speculation what is happening to him or is he hiding her in her purse or something else?
 

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guess Ava only talked about paying double Sophia's salary, no, should Sophia be teaching on Saturday?
I did not think Sophia was originally teaching on the weekend. I think the weekend teaching offers some opportunities that the weekday teaching did not. We'll need some teasers to see if any of my thoughts panned out...so I guess we'll know in a year or two.. :(
 

botc76

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It's hilarious, so many updates into part 2 now, and I still get zilch on the lesbian paths.
With this one, I didn't even bother, because the tutoring job is not on my route anyway.
I get that it's short and specific updates, but by now some content should be there.
 

hzjujk

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It is these inner monologues that are the weakest in the game. Sophia should think if I have become a paid whore or not? Or maybe I will start to like it
It's not that Sophia likes being a whore. It's just about the mind game. The thrill of crossing the line from the point of view of a well-to-do and cultured woman.
The thought of standing on the street for money will be as unbearable for Sophia as it is for us players.
 

Alley_Cat

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It's hilarious, so many updates into part 2 now, and I still get zilch on the lesbian paths.
With this one, I didn't even bother, because the tutoring job is not on my route anyway.
I get that it's short and specific updates, but by now some content should be there.
And we're not going to get any content for the rest of this playable day, and a good half of the next for those on the Ellie and Patricia routes.
wonder would aiden do anything interesting in the soccer match
Well we're still to see if Aiden can follow through on this threat of violence to Dylan if Sophia didn't accept his tasks. By my count the soccer match would be his 4th opportunity to catch Dylan.
 

Sabertooth__

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But somehow I didn't notice that he had a conscience. Somehow her conscience doesn't tell her that she is doing wrong or right. He doesn't tell her this because others only think of Sophia as a sexual object that is naive and easy to manipulate. And she doesn't care.
That is the thing about situations. Not everything can be classified as clearly right or wrong and that is what Sophia's character feels every time. There always this dilemma we see her conscience go through. She knows it's not appropriate but she also feels it is helping.

One has to understand. This is the not the Sophia from the beginning for who anything involving having to strip naked in front of someone other than her husband is a outright immoral and unjustifiable.

This is also not a Sophia ( atleast yet ) who is okay with sex and nudity will all these characters.

She is in between the two. We see her mental struggle in every scene. Her conscience cannot give her a straight answer because it tells her the positives for why she is doing this and also the negatives.
When we players make the filthy choice, the positives of going through with the filthy act wins and Sophia's character sees more benefit in doing the sexual act than rejecting it.

And everytime we make the filthy choice and basically say that there are more positives to being filthy with a character the more corrupt she becomes and the weaker her reasons for stopping get. As of now even Sophia's character has started to like being filthy and is getting excitement from this.

Even though it is still debatable right now soon it might come down to Sophia actively putting herself in situations which give her excitement or will show even lesser resistance to filthy acts. Her reasonings for doing something sexual will become weaker and she will start looking for excuses to do something filthy and get excitement from it.

We see traces of this in the last scene. Initially she rejected bringing or showing lingerie, towards the end she was turned on by the scenario and soon after the boys once again ask her to bring Lingerie and this time she agrees. Even though she states a number of reasons that it will be difficult to bring, she nonetheless says yes to this. This is in part to me only shows that even though Sophia has not said it explicitly, she too is intrigued by the idea of wearing a lingerie during the class.
 
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Is it possible that Nathalie is also Ava's maid ? :sneaky:
She’s student & a maid. Mrs Myers is a college professor & has a maid.
Nathalie said as she massaged Sophia: « It’s just… although I’m straight, I got a little thing for older women. Especially when they’re mothers as well ».
This fits Mrs Myers, old woman with 4 children (the Three Wise Men + Leah).

During their car ride, Nathalie asked Sophia if she wanted to accompany her to her social psychology class (Mr. Mackey), but Sophia took a raincheck.
Let’s imagine in a future event, Sophia agrees to go & by some strange coincidence, she & Nathalie attend Mrs Myers lecture. The three women will discover that they know each other. Thereafter, Sophia could ask Nathalie to be her partner in crime or to take part in the lessons with the Three Wise Men.

Who knows maybe I'm off target :unsure:.
 
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