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Famescua

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Well well well.
Now it's my turn tio whine and complain.
WTF was this change a to b necessary!
Deprived of a bit of scissor sisters makes no sense whatsoever!
Kimmy may be an arrogant and conniving gal but she's the MCs BF!
She's hot for ladies and when given the chance she jumps right down muff diving.
End result? Same! BJ Penny and mom found each other.
MCs a naive fuck and that's one of the main points in this story.
The narrative is brought forward by others, not him!
Therein lies the problem. The narrative shouldn't be brought forward by others. That's the reason that there is a MC. Also alot of people dont like playing betas to a best friend in the game. I could understand many mistakes and pranks. Yes Kim tried to fuck you in class with the wrong answer. She did kinda make up for it by making him take some pictures, then fucked up again by forgetting to take the pictures having him almost fail the class until she cried and basically guilt tripped the teacher to accept the pics late. So she made up for that mistake. Now before the rewrite she fucked up by literally fucking the MCs mom. Now I dont know about you but if you specifically asked your best friend to not mess with your mom and she went and fucked her anyways. Well that's an unforgivable fuck up regardless of the outcome. Just means you can't trust her anymore so no chance of redemption. After the rewrite well she isn't in the clear but at least it possible for reconciliation.
 
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Watcher X

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Ok, I finally downloaded this game to try and see if it is worth following and possibly supporting. I had high expectations because I really liked FILF.

I don't know what it is about this game but I'm struggling to get into it. The MC is a simp, the lesbo friend is annoying and the other characters are just meh. I played for about an hour and just found the entire experience a real slog. That happens when you play a character you just can't relate to or even like. And the story so far is just tedious.

FILF was fun and made all the more interesting because the girls were incredibly hot, especially the sister. I'm struggling to see anything in this game that provides the same motivation.
 

voyeurkind

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You folks must love this game. That's the only reason I can see that you cintinue to complain about it instead of just moving to something else.

At this point, I can't imagine that the dev iz going to make znh changes based on the feedback here if HD makes any changes at all. Personally I'm digging the story and I'm curious to see where it goes next.
 

Dustellar

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Kim is totally a bad friend, if she were a man we would be mad at her, but since she's a woman and sooner or later we will fuck her too we don't mind too much about her betrayal... also, that betrayal is the reason mom is happy, but as many said, now we wonder if sister was born or not, that would be enough reason to travel back in time to "fix" things

As someone who played all ICCreations game, I think we will have a "happy ending" where sister, mom, Step-mom (teacher), Kim, Kim's mom, Grandma, Aunt, Nadia and every other girl is part of MC harem, yeah it would be like any other game but who cares? btw I don't mind a game where some females aren't fuckables but this is a porn game and it's ICCreations, he started as a wannabe Icstor but I really enjoyed his game more tho.
 

ptahn

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Typically when a developer makes a change because he listened to the comments of his players, I like to make a contribution of some sort if I too think the change was for the better. I think that in this case the change was for the better, but the story is still bad. Kimmy is clearly trying to talk Julia into kissing her. She is clearly lying when she tries to convince MC that she was overcome with emotion because of Julia's problem. Obviously, Julia's problem will be that she is pregnant. If Julia is so torn up about her dilemma, the last thing she would want to do is to start making out with another girl to see if she likes it. Kimmy is a terrible friend to MC. Her actions could very well have ended MC's existence; but she did not care. She complains about how MC took too long to get there, but they did not tell MC where they were going. How was MC supposed to know Julia's special place? Just because things ended up better, does not excuse Kimmy. She did know that it would be the case before she acted. At this point, if I were MC I would never speak to Kimmy again, clearly she does not really care about MC at all. I think I will pledge a buck and post this comment on the Patreon page then cancel my support before the end of the month if the story does not change.
 

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Typically when a developer makes a change because he listened to the comments of his players, I like to make a contribution of some sort if I too think the change was for the better. I think that in this case the change was for the better, but the story is still bad. Kimmy is clearly trying to talk Julia into kissing her. She is clearly lying when she tries to convince MC that she was overcome with emotion because of Julia's problem. Obviously, Julia's problem will be that she is pregnant. If Julia is so torn up about her dilemma, the last thing she would want to do is to start making out with another girl to see if she likes it. Kimmy is a terrible friend to MC. Her actions could very well have ended MC's existence; but she did not care. She complains about how MC took too long to get there, but they did not tell MC where they were going. How was MC supposed to know Julia's special place? Just because things ended up better, does not excuse Kimmy. She did know that it would be the case before she acted. At this point, if I were MC I would never speak to Kimmy again, clearly she does not really care about MC at all. I think I will pledge a buck and post this comment on the Patreon page then cancel my support before the end of the month if the story does not change.
This is the big problem. Kim constantly does whatever she wants and you the MC have to fix it. I like that he tried something new with this game but Kim is just not interesting enough to be a catalyst to the story. Her whole dialogue is basically apologizing to you for fucking up or insulting you for shits and giggles.
 
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Honest question?
Why is the MC such a stupid piece if shit that he couldn't just say to Olivia, or hell, even Nathan, "I just got into town with my friend Kim, and we made friends with a girl named Julia. I had to run off for a few minutes and when I got back, all that was left was a note from my friend telling me Julia took her to her'secret place.' I'm just trying to find my friend."
Hell. Show the note.

Why is that so hard? Instead he wants to wander town looking for a random trinket, and antagonizing the stereotypical, egotistical douche jock?

I get random time travel would throw off anyone, but it is infuriating playing an MC who can't analyze a situation, or think of reasonable things to say.
"Hey girl who has never met me, where is your sister's secret place?"
"Hey egomaniac dickbag and his possee, who would like to kick my ass, where can I find the girl who happens to be you ex?"
Is this reasonable?
 

ptahn

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He has made her totally unlikable. I can't think of a better example of "with a friend like that who needs enemies." It's not just she does whatever she wants, it's that she does whatever she wants without any concern of how it hurts her best friend. In the case of her interactions with Julia, she was literally risking MC's life. Then in the car ride home, she's mad at him for being mad at her. She took a chance that her best friend would die to kiss his mom. Apparently the developer said in Discord that he is going to show the scene from Kimmy's perspective and we will she that she was overcome with emotion because Julia is so torn up over being pregnant. In the scene, Julia is not acting torn up, Kimmy is clearly trying to talk Julia into another kiss. They both have big smiles on their faces. Her perspective would have to have totally different renders and totally different dialog for that to be true. Both MC'c ears and eyes would have to be lying to him.
 
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LWtbo

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Honest question?
Why is the MC such a stupid piece if shit that he couldn't just say to Olivia, or hell, even Nathan, "I just got into town with my friend Kim, and we made friends with a girl named Julia. I had to run off for a few minutes and when I got back, all that was left was a note from my friend telling me Julia took her to her'secret place.' I'm just trying to find my friend."
Hell. Show the note.

Why is that so hard? Instead he wants to wander town looking for a random trinket, and antagonizing the stereotypical, egotistical douche jock?

I get random time travel would throw off anyone, but it is infuriating playing an MC who can't analyze a situation, or think of reasonable things to say.
"Hey girl who has never met me, where is your sister's secret place?"
"Hey egomaniac dickbag and his possee, who would like to kick my ass, where can I find the girl who happens to be you ex?"
Is this reasonable?
Thats something I was wondering myself only without the profanitys it would of made way more sence to ask mentioning he was looking for Kim first thats why I asked if the artifact made him slow or stupid.
The reaction he got depended on how he worded the question so no suprise they responded like that it makes total sence seeing as A. They didn't know him from Adam.
And B he was asking only after ones Sister and the others X with no other explanation.
I suprised the Sister didn't just tell him to "Fuck off you Creep"
Not to mention it was supossed to be so important to him to find Kim not his mom that you would think she would get a mention somewhere in the questions he's askin at least.
And whats with the goldfish memory he got.
He go's looking for the sister to ask where her sister may of taken Kim but dosn't mention Kim.
And first thing he do's when he finds her is flirt with her thank god penny was with him or Kim would of been banging mom all night.

Ok now that's off my chest .
I can live with it simply because thats the only way he could ask a question to get the responces the Dev wanted him to get.
Its the Dev's game and I still for some reason although i'm not sure exactly why really like the game.
And want to give it a chance.
I keep reminding myself that he may be a few snaks short of a picnic but at least as yet he's not a douchebag.

Just my opion btw GamerJon12 I see you know where the facepalm is help yourself.

Just Saying
 

EJW

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Yes I agree Kim is not a friend. But it is also true that again we have another mc that is weak and an idiot. The mc's in most of these games "at least the ones I play" fall in to 2 categories weak and stupid or the jerk dick head kind. What about just being a nice mc and use the brain once in awhile. As far as friends in these games most of them want to get into the mc families pants and you can't tell them to fuck off. Or they are brainless idiots who just get in the way. Tired of all these types of mc and friends. Just what to play as someone kind of decent with some intelligence.
 

LWtbo

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I disagree with most of the comments about the MC being weak not so much the stupid part but the weak bit.
bear in mind it's my opinion and my opinion only but I do actually understand why he is the way he is when ot comes to Kim.
But and I know your will disagree with me on this point but lets use the Kim argument in reverse.
I have to ask you ignoring the Mom incident would you still think the same of the MC If kim was a actually a male friend still with her personality?.
Please consider that question carfully before you rush to answere it and tell me how wrong I am.

P.S. don't forget the facepalm GamerJon12
Just Sayin.
 
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Holy shit you people are crying about a character after less than 10% of the story.
A character does a bad thing for selfish reason, so what? No need to burn a book after 10 pages. Give it time, see how things play out. A story needs drama, antagonists, something that drives the MC, that gives motive to his actions.
Otherwise you could finish the thing in 10 minutes: Go back in time, fuck everything that moves, the end.
 

ptahn

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Note to moderator: I said in my comment that was deleted that "I always say..." and it's true I always say it. I have written that comment over a dozen times. This is the very first time it was ever deleted. I know this is getting deleted too, but I wanted to say it.
 

ptahn

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Holy shit you people are crying about a character after less than 10% of the story.
A character does a bad thing for selfish reason, so what? No need to burn a book after 10 pages. Give it time, see how things play out. A story needs drama, antagonists, something that drives the MC, that gives motive to his actions.
Otherwise you could finish the thing in 10 minutes: Go back in time, fuck everything that moves, the end.
Yes, but it is an issue when your best friend knowingly risks life to kiss your mom. I think that is an issue worth discussing.
 

SecretSal

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My $0.2 about the hypocrisy issue (being ok banging other's moms, not when they do it to yours) - me, as a player, would have MC go for any woman that was willing and able, just for the fun of it. But this MC doesn't play like that, and we have no choice to shape his personality - yeah, he fantasises about Kim's mom, but it's Sylvia that aggressively flirts with him, it's Penny that makes a move on him in the past timeline. If there's any hypocrisy, it's from Kim, who shows disgust when he says her mom was flirting with him, or when she sees her in his crystal ball fantasies... but then has no issue banging MC's mom within a day of meeting her.

The disrespect is more off-putting than the act. If Kim and MC had plotted together, realised they needed some way to get Julia out of her funk, and decided a quick fling was the answer, I'd actually have enjoyed the scene. Instead, she sneaks off, goes behind MC's back, and Kim does something MC specifically asked her not to. I get the idea to build tension by not knowing what they were doing, which made it more intriguing than if they were both in on it, but the end result is that the MC feels like an interloper in the story.

And while it's not NTR in my opinion, the buildup is certainly set up like one. Important characters move out of sight, MC jumps through hoops to find them, and then catches them fucking. That's pretty much a standard template in a cheating wife story, which is probably why it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. And the whole 'oh but it made life so much better' angle just feels like the game trying to gaslight the player into getting the fuck over it, as Kim said.
 

EJW

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I disagree with most of the comments about the MC being weak not so much the stupid part but the weak bit.
bear in mind it's my opinion and my opinion only but I do actually understand why he is the way he is when ot comes to Kim.
But and I know your will disagree with me on this point but lets use the Kim argument in reverse.
I have to ask you ignoring the Mom incident would you still think the same of the MC If kim was a actually a male friend still with her personality?.
Please consider that question carfully before you rush to answere it and tell me how wrong I am.

P.S. don't forget the facepalm GamerJon12
Just Sayin.
You need to ask the dev. He or she makes the choice for the personality and characteristics. But for me, yes because I would not put up with the things that Kim did and said to the mc. Even excluding the mom incident. That is my opinion.
 
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