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Nemo56

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Mom banging dad should be no cuz mom wouldnt be a LI cuz yea dads there.

Teachers a parent to him now so bascially same as above UNLESS MC gets both of them

Own father thing is fucking out there impossible so...no
Fry from Futurama is his own grandfather.
 
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thwartme

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Any advice, please?

Walkthrough says "Small series of special images when you've done all talking options with Natalie in the Morning." But I can't seem to talk to Natalie in the morning. In the early morning, she's having breakfast at the counter, no talking options available. Later, she's sunbathing on the beach and "this idle hasn't been created yet."

What am I supposed to do?

Thanks,
thwartme
 

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Hey everyone,
I'm NOW starting the Silvia content for the next update. I was a bit side-tracked and decided to power through more Professor Pearl Main Scenario content as well as set up some needed locations.
Once I get this scene with Silvia completed, I'll likely move onto the present timeline Gwynn intro. Once I finalize her model, I'll display it along with more "sneak peaks". The photo of Melissa is just a bonus pic I put together. Don't forget that I will be focusing on the next FILF update once AD V0.04 is finished. Thanks!
 

Devildo78

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Just took a first short look into this game...really good animations...storry seems to be intresting... looking forward to get the next update! :)
 
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DanThaMan

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Want to finish already 0.4 to go back to FILF which is a much more icc game than this. I mean this started kinda okay , but with julia and kim scene change i think they take this story too serious... i mean sex between kim and julia was a much better catalyst for mc mother to become bisexual than a simple kiss. Fu half of the girls in school kissed each other and neither turned bisexual or lesbi ... and dont get me with character faces View attachment 1447318
What the hell that face is supposed to be? i mean Incest adventure and artefact which are older games dont have that kind of ugliness to them...To think dev abandoned incest in paradise for this , filf is okay but this one.... good premise but bad story
This guys renders have never improved, look at his renders from 2016 they look pretty much the same lol
 
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gelu123

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This guys renders have never improved, look at his renders from 2016 they look pretty much the same lol
Trust me i was even a patreon when filf got launched , i know what icc can do. But deep story telling , yeah no thats not what this game needs. I mean lemme point how much a change like that can be dumb: this game gonna have incest scene for sure , so julia is simply a nympho and her morals are questionable , that wouldve been more credible if she had straight up sex with kim and turn that way than a simple kiss , dont you think so?
That was the beauty of his game the simple story premise that evolves to a taboo incest fest with a succesfull conclusion.
 

gelu123

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The story gets the upper hand, always.
Well which ICC games had a really memorable story , i mean what can be that memorable in an incest harem game regarding story , but that isnt a minus , it simply was that kind of game where the premise is basic and the story is a means to the incest fetish , incest adventure , artefact , filf , tell me this game really have a much needed story? you want story go and play a much more advanced visual novel here. And developing 2 games at the same time always meant one if not both are receiving a slower update pace , which never was good and it hurt the game . People lose interest of it in time . AD is clearly more complex than his other works and need more time and resources invested in it , but dev already abandoned 1 game (yeah i know he said he didnt like the rpgm but he couldve simple port it in renpy which wouldve been cool better).
There needs to be a return to the old formula for this game if he wants to have patreons and have the funds to continue developing games which until now are one of the best for what they expected to offer.
 

gelu123

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Besides the thing i cant forgive him is for that stupid mistake of not at least patching the scene ... yes julia and kim kisses nice and dandy... the scene after kim si undressed and so its julia... its so obviously painfull that the scene was removed as a last minute without much context. And the real reason is that some patreons requested it cause their small manhood felt weak that kim had an ntr scene ( not a real ntr scene at least atm cause MC is not involved with julia) and felt cucked... which is idiotic. How is that scene for us players which obv came for a porngame when after they dissapear julia acts like she commited a cardinal sin by just kissing another girl? the lesbi scene was with much more context...
 

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Besides the thing i cant forgive him is for that stupid mistake of not at least patching the scene ... yes julia and kim kisses nice and dandy... the scene after kim si undressed and so its julia... its so obviously painfull that the scene was removed as a last minute without much context. And the real reason is that some patreons requested it cause their small manhood felt weak that kim had an ntr scene ( not a real ntr scene at least atm cause MC is not involved with julia) and felt cucked... which is idiotic. How is that scene for us players which obv came for a porngame when after they dissapear julia acts like she commited a cardinal sin by just kissing another girl? the lesbi scene was with much more context...
Actually, no patrons complained about that scene. I changed it as I tried to please the people on f95 as I tried to communicate with this community. It was probably the biggest mistake I made, as they wanted change, I changed it and I get a lot of "Well it was in the beta for 24 hours so it still counts as cannon".

I've now grown to not care of other's preferences and will create what I enjoy creating. People who can relate to what I like may support me, while others will not. I won't really cater to what makes the most money in terms of content.

You do mention about the previous changed scene and how I shouldn't cater to others, but at the same time say I should do what you prefer as I'll get more support. That kind of contradicts yourself, doesn't it? All in all, some players always think their own preferences are in the best interest for the dev, but that's never the case. Small tits, big tits, slutty characters, caring characters, blonde hair, black hair, red hair, story, no story, etc. I won't please everyone and that's totally fine :).

I'll now just take criticism as free advertisement I guess? Heh.

Edit: Also, IiP was abandoned because of patreon pressure to abandon it. I actually started FILF in RPGMaker and converted it to renpy soon after V0.01.
 

gelu123

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Actually, no patrons complained about that scene. I changed it as I tried to please the people on f95 as I tried to communicate with this community. It was probably the biggest mistake I made, as they wanted change, I changed it and I get a lot of "Well it was in the beta for 24 hours so it still counts as cannon".

I've now grown to not care of other's preferences and will create what I enjoy creating. People who can relate to what I like may support me, while others will not. I won't really cater to what makes the most money in terms of content.

You do mention about the previous changed scene and how I shouldn't cater to what you don't like, but at the same time say I should do what you prefer as I'll get more support. That kind of contradicts yourself, doesn't it? All in all, some players always think their own preferences are in the best interest for the dev, but that's never the case. Small tits, big tits, slutty characters, caring characters, blonde hair, black hair, red hair, story, no story, etc. I won't please everyone and that's totally fine :).

I'll now just take criticism as free advertisement I guess? Heh.

Edit: Also, IiP was abandoned because of patreon pressure to abandon it. I actually started FILF in RPGMaker and converted it to renpy soon after V0.01.
No dont get me wrong , i enjoyed your work and liked the games and the feeling. I played up till 0.02 which was okay and all. But i think that scene was exactly one of the essence of your work and it fitted the character better and made a much better transition in terms of story, cause a simple kiss and some girl talk turning julia (even with all her problems with the breakup) into a bisexual is kinda hard to swallow. I get it people give oppinions here that are either good or bad and some (myself sometimes included of course) can say it in a harsher way than required.
"You do mention about the previous changed scene and how I shouldn't cater to what you don't like, but at the same time say I should do what you prefer as I'll get more support" you are right in the regard you know better for your game , but i actually defend that initial scene of being more in tune with your previous works.The other changes were good and i didnt think to mention because the change was good or didnt affect the story. But that one scene (again i overreact) changed the context of story a bit too much , i mean Mc seems a cool headed guy and not a kid , heck he thinks as a mature person for once. But overreacting like that for a simple kiss was a bit too much. The lesbi scene seemed more credible of the MC action.
Dont take my words of criticism to heart if you feel like , they arent spoken to dishearten you , but to give my opinion as a player who played and enjoyed your previous titles and FILF and would be sad to diminish your style in this game .Maybe i am mistaken and your new vision is better , trying new things is always good to not get burnout.That being said i would like to see how this game and especially FILF evolves and would like to resubscribe ( i know for most of my time i am a freeloader but hey , money is tight in my life and cant always support the devs in their endevour of bringing us good games :) )
 

ben_sylar

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Actually, no patrons complained about that scene. I changed it as I tried to please the people on f95 as I tried to communicate with this community. It was probably the biggest mistake I made, as they wanted change, I changed it and I get a lot of "Well it was in the beta for 24 hours so it still counts as cannon".

I've now grown to not care of other's preferences and will create what I enjoy creating. People who can relate to what I like may support me, while others will not. I won't really cater to what makes the most money in terms of content.

You do mention about the previous changed scene and how I shouldn't cater to others, but at the same time say I should do what you prefer as I'll get more support. That kind of contradicts yourself, doesn't it? All in all, some players always think their own preferences are in the best interest for the dev, but that's never the case. Small tits, big tits, slutty characters, caring characters, blonde hair, black hair, red hair, story, no story, etc. I won't please everyone and that's totally fine :).

I'll now just take criticism as free advertisement I guess? Heh.

Edit: Also, IiP was abandoned because of patreon pressure to abandon it. I actually started FILF in RPGMaker and converted it to renpy soon after V0.01.
This is what I was afraid of, the NTR!1!11!-NO NTR!11!!1-crowd drowns out the argument that 'the scene', in both versions, makes Kim look like a bad friend. I replay the whole game again after the next update, but until now I can't find redeeming qualities in her.

Am I right to assume Kim is gonna be a huge part of the main story?

To end in a positive note: The setup to the story is interesting and I enjoy the characters, aside from the obvious one
 

gelu123

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This is what I was afraid of, the NTR!1!11!-NO NTR!11!!1-crowd drowns out the argument that 'the scene', in both versions, makes Kim look like a bad friend. I replay the whole game again after the next update, but until now I can't find redeeming qualities in her.

Am I right to assume Kim is gonna be a huge part of the main story?

To end in a positive note: The setup to the story is interesting and I enjoy the characters, aside from the obvious one
I myself wont say per se that i am a fan of ntr. But some ntr scenes that bring context and pushes forward the story, i am okay with that. Like for exemple riley scene in incest adventure , it was necessary for the story so i am okay with it. But a thing i saw here on this forums is that some people really feel attacked by ntr scenes and their manhood may fall from them.
Well Kim is simply MC friend that lets her hormones get the better of her and she is simply naive , immature and a little mischevious but at heart she cares about mc and feels sorry.
 
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gelu123

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I sure hope she shows that someday soon and makes it believeable, because I don't see that yet.

Am I missing something or are some of you projecting something into Kim that just isn't there or not shown atm.?
its leaves you to imagination true , but dont expect that much of a writing in any game here of f95 ... this isnt a AAA title game with 500 mil $ budget and hollywood writers...
 

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This is what I was afraid of, the NTR!1!11!-NO NTR!11!!1-crowd drowns out the argument that 'the scene', in both versions, makes Kim look like a bad friend. I replay the whole game again after the next update, but until now I can't find redeeming qualities in her.

Am I right to assume Kim is gonna be a huge part of the main story?

To end in a positive note: The setup to the story is interesting and I enjoy the characters, aside from the obvious one
yeah, I think so too that Kim has a huge impact in the main story, I too look forward to her redeeming herself, but if later on in the game if there are choices given which impact story, I would not opt for Kim's route, people who like her can opt for her route
 
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ben_sylar

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its leaves you to imagination true , but dont expect that much of a writing in any game here of f95 ... this isnt a AAA title game with 500 mil $ budget and hollywood writers...
You don't need hundreds of millions of dollars to write a coherent plot with well defined characters. I don't expect the musings of Hemingway here on f95, but basic writing lessons still apply and holding devs to a minimum standard is not to much to ask.
 

gelu123

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You don't need hundreds of millions of dollars to write a coherent plot with well defined characters. I don't expect the musings of Hemingway here on f95, but basic writing lessons still apply and holding devs to a minimum standard is not to much to ask.
Character development needs time and more scenes and renders for that matter? her part in story is played very well for what it is needed. The game is atm at 0.3 with 0.4 incoming so i think there is plenty of time for her
 
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Actually, no patrons complained about that scene. I changed it as I tried to please the people on f95 as I tried to communicate with this community. It was probably the biggest mistake I made, as they wanted change, I changed it and I get a lot of "Well it was in the beta for 24 hours so it still counts as cannon".

I've now grown to not care of other's preferences and will create what I enjoy creating. People who can relate to what I like may support me, while others will not. I won't really cater to what makes the most money in terms of content.

You do mention about the previous changed scene and how I shouldn't cater to others, but at the same time say I should do what you prefer as I'll get more support. That kind of contradicts yourself, doesn't it? All in all, some players always think their own preferences are in the best interest for the dev, but that's never the case. Small tits, big tits, slutty characters, caring characters, blonde hair, black hair, red hair, story, no story, etc. I won't please everyone and that's totally fine :).

I'll now just take criticism as free advertisement I guess? Heh.

Edit: Also, IiP was abandoned because of patreon pressure to abandon it. I actually started FILF in RPGMaker and converted it to renpy soon after V0.01.
To be honest, I put a pause on this game following the change due to pressure from the anti-NTR crowd. They will ruin every good game if given the chance. That scene was a critical flection point for changing the future. The story with Kim and the MC is still developing, but this is going to be a long game with a lot of time to build things. The same people that bitched about this scene absolutely hated everything Kim did. There was not getting through to them. And seeing how that scene was changed from Kim screwing the MC's Mom in the past to them just kissing? C'mon, man. That first one would help explain how she might've slipped to being a lesbian in the future, but just a kiss made her abandon boys for good?

If it were up to me, I'd rather you tell your story the way you want to tell it. If the patrons didn't complain, then what do a bunch of pirates matter? I've had enough bad interactions with the anti-NTR zealots on this page to make me abandon two projects I was working on. There are tons of games where they can get their fap on without having to ruin good games and developers.

Really enjoy your work, I look forward to supporting you more in the future.
 
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