RPGM Abandoned Angelica Origins [v0.6.2] [Kelo Games]

[the66]

here is my unofficial android port of Angelica Origins 0.3 beta.

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[Ignazzio]

Why on the end,when Angelica speak with her friend Larissa on the phone and say she have a big problem (to help Carlo),when i choose the "Lust choice - doing it myself" ,not "Good girl choice - yes i need your help" ,didn't work and she she say "yes she is right - i need your help" and in the 2 options,she take help from her friend Larissa any way - then why is the second option,if you can't do it?

Your possibilities depend on the question you asked to the old lady. Try different question and the outcome might be different. That choice really do matter with different question

 

[LoveWhores]

Your possibilities depend on the question you asked to the old lady. Try different question and the outcome might be different. That choice really do matter with different question

Yes,i did it! Tnx! I didn't know that is necessary to help the old lady and i just choose "bad girl" option,but after you say i need to speak with her i try to help her and then she say i can ask her one question (my first was wrong of course) and i finally did it,choosing the question"Whats wrong with my body"! Tnx for helping me,now i just need to wait until the next update - i hope it will be soon!

 

[BobYu94]

Is there supposed to be a difference if i lock the door or not when i shower on i think day 3? i tried locking and unlocking and it still ends with the same scene.

 

[yagami16]

Is there supposed to be a difference if i lock the door or not when i shower on i think day 3? i tried locking and unlocking and it still ends with the same scene.

I was going to ask the same. Can someone help me?

 

[LoveWhores]

I can't understand one thing - Is the red hair girl is Angelica or not? If she is the bad side of Angelica,how the hell,when she go outside to the Pizzeria and fuck this guy,then try to go back fast because she felt her mother (even speak with her),on the second day when Angelica thing she is not any more virgin,when her mother check her,she is virgin? Are they 2 different people or they are one person with 2 different sides - bad and good (something like identity split) and if is the second one,how the hell she is virgin again? I can't understand it!

 

[Korya]

old save dont work? is it always need start fresh every update? if so its so ridiculous and boring.At least give us working ending day save good and bad path

 

[Kelo Games]

Good morning to all. I'm writing a public post, the first one of 2019 with all news and info. So stay tuned to my patron page.

Why on the end,when Angelica speak with her friend Larissa on the phone and say she have a big problem (to help Carlo),when i choose the "Lust choice - doing it myself" ,not "Good girl choice - yes i need your help" ,didn't work and she she say "yes she is right - i need your help" and in the 2 options,she take help from her friend Larissa any way - then why is the second option,if you can't do it?

You don't have the right requirements to choose the "red" choice... (1. Right question to the old woman - side quest- and 2. the right amount of "Bad girl points"). The last scene of 0.3 has 3 versions.

I liked the original. Hell, I even like this. I wish it was on Renphy though honestly. Might have to wait for the re-remake

Ahahah! No sir, no more re-re-make... and in reality this is not a remake after all... it's more a restart. Now my first achievement it's to finish episode 1. Then in future maybe... I can go on with ren'py... who know what the future have for me?

Is there supposed to be a difference if i lock the door or not when i shower on i think day 3? i tried locking and unlocking and it still ends with the same scene.

To unlock the secret scene you have to do 2 things: the first is an interaction... the second one is a choice... if you did the right things before going to shower you heard 2 sounds (one during the first interaction and the second one after the right choice) that it confirm you're unlocking the secret scene...

I can't understand one thing - Is the red hair girl is Angelica or not? If she is the bad side of Angelica,how the hell,when she go outside to the Pizzeria and fuck this guy,then try to go back fast because she felt her mother (even speak with her),on the second day when Angelica thing she is not any more virgin,when her mother check her,she is virgin? Are they 2 different people or they are one person with 2 different sides - bad and good (something like identity split) and if is the second one,how the hell she is virgin again? I can't understand it!

Until now it's difficult to understand how this red girl work, who she is, etc... But until now we can understand this: Angelica is still virgin so the red girl didn't use her body with Mario... The "red hair girl" is a great mystery for now... we'll understand more in future of course...

old save dont work? is it always need start fresh every update? if so its so ridiculous and boring.At least give us working ending day save good and bad path

It's a working in progress sir, it's normal. I can add a working save but this will mean you loose your pesonal save with your personal choices. I always suggest to start a new game but it's not always necessary:

-for 0.3 you just need to restart before Ping touching Angi's boobs and before Alessia-Daniele scene in the bathroom;
-for 0.3.1 (next update) you just need to restart before shower scene.

I understand that's it can be boring or something for you and other players but this mean too I'm doing my job to make this game perfect and without bugs.

Thanks for playing my game and for your attention.

 

[BobYu94]

Good morning to all. I'm writing a public post, the first one of 2019 with all news and info. So stay tuned to my patron page.



You don't have the right requirements to choose the "red" choice... (1. Right question to the old woman - side quest- and 2. the right amount of "Bad girl points"). The last scene of 0.3 has 3 versions.



Ahahah! No sir, no more re-re-make... and in reality this is not a remake after all... it's more a restart. Now my first achievement it's to finish episode 1. Then in future maybe... I can go on with ren'py... who know what the future have for me?



To unlock the secret scene you have to do 2 things: the first is an interaction... the second one is a choice... if you did the right things before going to shower you heard 2 sounds (one during the first interaction and the second one after the right choice) that it confirm you're unlocking the secret scene...



Until now it's difficult to understand how this red girl work, who she is, etc... But until now we can understand this: Angelica is still virgin so the red girl didn't use her body with Mario... The "red hair girl" is a great mystery for now... we'll understand more in future of course...



It's a working in progress sir, it's normal. I can add a working save but this will mean you loose your pesonal save with your personal choices. I always suggest to start a new game but it's not always necessary:

-for 0.3 you just need to restart before Ping touching Angi's boobs and before Alessia-Daniele scene in the bathroom;
-for 0.3.1 (next update) you just need to restart before shower scene.

I understand that's it can be boring or something for you and other players but this mean too I'm doing my job to make this game perfect and without bugs.

Thanks for playing my game and for your attention.

What interaction and choice did i need to do?

 

[leg28]

Mmh... don't you like Simone?

Love the game, hate Simone (sorry Kelo)... he is annoying and looks like creepy stalker
Don't mind idea good looking girl doing it with nerd like in many games but this guy is tooooo much.
So I second the motion for Angelica to dump him (or at least give us option) ASAP

 

[Trasher2018]

I likeed the "old" one, but I wont endure RPGM again - I hope for a Renpy version in the future. Until then - good luck and keep going

 

[Kelo Games]

Hello.

What interaction and choice did i need to do?

Little help: ...when Angelica is in bathrobe before the shower scene...

Love the game, hate Simone (sorry Kelo)... he is annoying and looks like creepy stalker
Don't mind idea good looking girl doing it with nerd like in many games but this guy is tooooo much.
So I second the motion for Angelica to dump him (or at least give us option) ASAP

Don't worry. I know nobody likes Simone (Angelica's boyfriend).

I likeed the "old" one, but I wont endure RPGM again - I hope for a Renpy version in the future. Until then - good luck and keep going

If you liked the old version, you'll like more the "restart". Give it a try or... well, you'll miss a lot. In my opinion, people who are waiting for a "visual novel version" or "when the new version reach the old point of the story" are missing a lot. I working hard to create a good game and for every single updates.

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RPG maker is not easy to use to create games (I working more than a visual novel creator) and the possibility to walk in a map it gives a different way to enjoy the game and the story. With visual novel you can't do this. My advice is to not being too much "close minded" about this. For example I'm not close to the idea to use visual novel engine like "Ren'Py" in future. But for now my project need rpg maker. My game is for people who want more than a fast fap porn game. Lol

Angelica is a girl who live in a town and "Angelica origins" need a palce to give me the possibility to tell you her story from the beginning. A lot of things will happen in this town...

When "Angelica origins" will be finished, or during this time in future (with more help from another guy?) I can create a new series made it in ren'py, yeah this is possible... who knows what the future have for us...

I think I'll ask mister CobraPL to remove the "remake" word from this post. This is not a remake after all, it's a restart with a rewritten story to make it more interesting than the old version.

And I really appreciate all your opinions.

Good day and thanks for playing my game.

 

[Trasher2018]

If you liked the old version, you'll like more the "restart". Give it a try or... well, you'll miss a lot. In my opinion, people who are waiting for a "visual novel version" or "when the new version reach the old point of the story" are missing a lot. I working hard to create a good game and for every single updates.

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RPG maker is not easy to use to create games (I working more than a visual novel creator) and the possibility to walk in a map it gives a different way to enjoy the game and the story. With visual novel you can't do this.

For ME this exactly the turn off. I dont see any benefit in that walking. There is nothing that changes. In the end I have to walk from A to B to trigger event X. In the VN I just click to trigger X (or there is this horrible "free-roaming" present and I have to click-walk to trigger event X ). In 99% of all RPGM (and "free-roaming" VNs) the movement doesn't add anything meaningful. As a mechanic it is just a click that takes longer and the user has to find where the trigger is.

Walking in a map only adds to the gameplay when the walking itself is a form of decision making. When there are more than 1 trigger at any given time, or events I can miss. As long as there is only one trigger to avtivate, the walking has no meaning. It is just stretching the playtime. Some VN ports of RPGM games show that perfectly - they are the same games, just without that tideous running and a streamlined and (more) fluid gameflow.

IMHO as a designer you have to think about the system you want and/or need. Always question yourself with a simple question. Does that add anything meaningful to my game? - If the answer is yes, fine. No ... dont add it ^^ And as I said, in the majority of RPGM and movement VNs there is nothing that the movement adds to the game. Nothing for the player. There are a few exceptions where you have more options at any (mostly) given time and the movement of the player is part of the decisions that impact the gameplay. But that is hard work and hard to do right. I think in High Life and The DeLuca Family it is at least not useless - but at least currently The DeLuca Family could work without that and could be played as a VN without movement with just some minor adjustments. And that are the better ones that I can think of ...

And yes. Movement can add something to the feeling of the game even without adding anything to the gameplay. But in most cases it is just there to stretch time or add grinding.

I dont know why so many devs think they have to add more gameplay into their VNs. Maybe because they think the are more game than without it. To many games try to make a business simulation with the foundation of a VN. I think there is a reason why most good games of that genre are not famous for there stories ^^ And believe me, as a german I played alot of them in the 90s ^^ They are mechanic/system driven games. They have to have a great mechanical structure and only after that you can try to add a story to this. I think you can build such a game, but that has to be a simulation of any kind first, and then you can add a lewd story to this. And I dont think that this genre is the perfect spot for this. And yes, I think a game like "Die Fugger 2" (dont know the english title) with more explicit nudity and sex could work perfectly. They even tried it with games like "Wet - Sexy Empire" but that was not a good game, because the systems and mechanics where flat and got repetitive very quickly.

Ok ... but I get in rambling mode ... so I cut it here ^^

When you think that RPGM is the better choice for you to make your games that is perfectly fine. For ME these games are not fun to play, because I hate it that I have to search for the trigger to continue. Even worse when you get the answer "just use the walktrhough or hint system". Both of that are lazy and bad game design. As soon as it is not obvious (or at least easy to understand with some thinking) what and where to do next, its a failure. And yes when I remember correctly that wasnt a problem in your game ... but I am not sure (sorry). But than you have the other "problems" with RPMG. The horrible audio menu (I have to set the volume via windows settings to 2% and ingame on 20) and every game starts with 100!!. Then there is that save system where you need more clicks to save/load than to shut down you whole system. Most games use that horrible 4:3 ratio and are laggy even on good PCs.

And again ... sorry. Now its over.

Keep up your good work and maybe in the future you or someone make a Renpy/VN version of the game

Edit: Any spelling or grammatical error is an expression of my individual personality and is intended as a statement for my free spirit. Deal with it ^^

 

[leg28]

I know nobody likes Simone (Angelica's boyfriend).

Because he is creepy and disgusting. Anyway what is with your male characters? Girls are yummy, but guys (comparing to male charachters in other games) are lame & way out of girls' league (except maybe Carlo & professor - though professor looks like latin lover from 70s/80s ).

This is not a remake after all, it's a restart with a rewritten story to make it more interesting than the old version.

Agree, it is not remake… more like director's cut

 

[SaulGoodman]

Little help: ...when Angelica is in bathrobe before the shower scene...

Is there something else to do other than going to the door in bathrobe and leaving the door unlocked? I got the two sounds you mentioned this way but the shower scene is still the same as without.

 

[Kelo Games]

Good morning to all!

For ME this exactly the turn off. I dont see any benefit in that walking. There is nothing that changes. In the end I have to walk from A to B to trigger event X. In the VN I just click to trigger X (or there is this horrible "free-roaming" present and I have to click-walk to trigger event X ). In 99% of all RPGM (and "free-roaming" VNs) the movement doesn't add anything meaningful. As a mechanic it is just a click that takes longer and the user has to find where the trigger is.

Walking in a map only adds to the gameplay when the walking itself is a form of decision making. When there are more than 1 trigger at any given time, or events I can miss. As long as there is only one trigger to avtivate, the walking has no meaning. It is just stretching the playtime. Some VN ports of RPGM games show that perfectly - they are the same games, just without that tideous running and a streamlined and (more) fluid gameflow.

IMHO as a designer you have to think about the system you want and/or need. Always question yourself with a simple question. Does that add anything meaningful to my game? - If the answer is yes, fine. No ... dont add it ^^ And as I said, in the majority of RPGM and movement VNs there is nothing that the movement adds to the game. Nothing for the player. There are a few exceptions where you have more options at any (mostly) given time and the movement of the player is part of the decisions that impact the gameplay. But that is hard work and hard to do right. I think in High Life and The DeLuca Family it is at least not useless - but at least currently The DeLuca Family could work without that and could be played as a VN without movement with just some minor adjustments. And that are the better ones that I can think of ...

And yes. Movement can add something to the feeling of the game even without adding anything to the gameplay. But in most cases it is just there to stretch time or add grinding.

I dont know why so many devs think they have to add more gameplay into their VNs. Maybe because they think the are more game than without it. To many games try to make a business simulation with the foundation of a VN. I think there is a reason why most good games of that genre are not famous for there stories ^^ And believe me, as a german I played alot of them in the 90s ^^ They are mechanic/system driven games. They have to have a great mechanical structure and only after that you can try to add a story to this. I think you can build such a game, but that has to be a simulation of any kind first, and then you can add a lewd story to this. And I dont think that this genre is the perfect spot for this. And yes, I think a game like "Die Fugger 2" (dont know the english title) with more explicit nudity and sex could work perfectly. They even tried it with games like "Wet - Sexy Empire" but that was not a good game, because the systems and mechanics where flat and got repetitive very quickly.

Ok ... but I get in rambling mode ... so I cut it here ^^

When you think that RPGM is the better choice for you to make your games that is perfectly fine. For ME these games are not fun to play, because I hate it that I have to search for the trigger to continue. Even worse when you get the answer "just use the walktrhough or hint system". Both of that are lazy and bad game design. As soon as it is not obvious (or at least easy to understand with some thinking) what and where to do next, its a failure. And yes when I remember correctly that wasnt a problem in your game ... but I am not sure (sorry). But than you have the other "problems" with RPMG. The horrible audio menu (I have to set the volume via windows settings to 2% and ingame on 20) and every game starts with 100!!. Then there is that save system where you need more clicks to save/load than to shut down you whole system. Most games use that horrible 4:3 ratio and are laggy even on good PCs.

And again ... sorry. Now its over.

Keep up your good work and maybe in the future you or someone make a Renpy/VN version of the game

Edit: Any spelling or grammatical error is an expression of my individual personality and is intended as a statement for my free spirit. Deal with it ^^

Thanks for your opinions. For my project, in this moment, I need RPG maker. The only advice I can give you is to play first then you know better how much effort I'm putting on this game.

Because he is creepy and disgusting. Anyway what is with your male characters? Girls are yummy, but guys (comparing to male charachters in other games) are lame & way out of girls' league (except maybe Carlo & professor - though professor looks like latin lover from 70s/80s ).

Agree, it is not remake… more like director's cut

Yes, male characters are not looking good in this moment. But there's a reason for that:

A lot of them are childish and their role is not important as main "suitors" (I hope this is the right word).

About Simone: well, Angelica is in a difficult moment and He's not so helpful for her...

Angelica will meet more sexy male in future...

Is there something else to do other than going to the door in bathrobe and leaving the door unlocked? I got the two sounds you mentioned this way but the shower scene is still the same as without.

These two "actions" will unlock the "secret scene" in dream room at the end of day 3 (next version, 0.3.1) and they not change the shower scene.

The shower scene need an exact amount of "lust points" to let her... doing more.

The secret scene will have 3 versions: 1- you didn't unlocked at all; 2- you unlocked only the first part; 3- you unlocked the full scene.

Thanks for your attention.

 

[tylercurtis]

This is a great game, the storyline is unique and not corny, the renders are fantastic, the girls - in particular - are amazing.

That said, I have to agree with Trasher2018 - RPGM is not the best choice for this, as it is essentially a visual novel. Not every RPGM style game is a visual novel - for instance, if you have to explore a cave or fight your way through a forest then the gameplay legitimately feels different with RPGM than it would with a Ren'Py style VN - but in Angelica's Origins there could be a literal translation of this game to Ren'Py with no loss of gameplay. No one is claiming you didn't put a lot of work in, but if anything RPGM simply adds to the work without bringing anything new to the game. All that walking and waiting while other characters have "..." speech bubbles appear and disappear just slows things down, and when there's essentially only one "next thing" to do at any given time then there's not much of a reason to make you walk to it. You can still have minigames in something like Ren'Py but save yourself a huge amount of work.

You mentioned that you are working alone, and I am totally willing to help!!! I don't know how to render stuff but I can program, and I'd be happy to get this ported over to Ren'Py which would allow things to move a lot faster. Your renders are fantastic, some of the best I've seen, and I wouldn't try to influence the story at all because I love to see where it is going. Let me know if you'd be interested.

(One last thing: Sorry if this comes across as rude or harsh. If it is any consolation, the only reason I am even bringing it up at all is because the game is so good that I would love to see it ported to something that made the experience even better.)

 

[OldDirtyGrinder]

Is there a Walkthrough for day 3?

 

[dan9000]

any save for the shower bug?

 

[roberto1982]

There is new update but it is 25 $