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Man, it's crazy how all the good games are in development right now and will release their next updates within the next two months. It's like they're all syncing up or something.
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DSP is a bad writer who can't write Jill as inexperienced but at least intelligent enough to know that Tybalt is a moron who's full of shit so her general intelligence jumps around as the plot dictates, but you have to whisper this because you're implying DPC isn't the best at everything ever when it comes to porn games. Also you can't call them porn games and have to pretend you're engrossed by the writting.
Rusty wasn't threatening to have someone she cares about put in jail(likely succeeding in her mind). You have to take the context of the entire situation into account, not just cherry pick the details that support what point you want to make.
I continually say this is the most overrated game in the genre and it's actually a pretty good one that I enjoy. But it's not the greatest AVN ever made and so many fans act like it is. There are so many way better written AVNs. DPC is a soap opera writer in love with forced drama which causes him to write his character acting outside their established character and creating glaring plot holes as a result.
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Im convinced if we removed every and any posts about Jill, this thread would be like 5000 pages rn
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The Rusty Tybalt connection doesn't really work when you consider that Jill has resisted Tybalt's advances for 2 or 3 years before being blackmailed. The poor writing comes with Jill not considering asking the other Preps what happened before agreeing to Tybalt's demands. If she had asked then she would have either found out that Tybalt was lying and no-one would back him up, or as players we'd have found out that the rest of the Preps who happily talk shit about Tybalt are two-faced scum and we'd need to treat them with caution in future eps.
Fairly sure she's quite well aware but too polite to tell him this straight to his face until he absolutely riles her up. Where Rusty was a cocksure dude who wasn't really hurt by taking him down a peg, Tybalt is just so pathetic it can make one reluctant to tell him this.
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Being a DIK is the only game I ever rage quit. I don't think I'll ever finish it.
EVERY game I've literally ever played is better than this one.
EVERY game I've literally ever played is better than this one.
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i dont really think there was any cherry picking here. if Jill as the where-with-all, confidence, intuition, intelligence and experience to nearly instantly figure out exactly the type of guy that Rusty is and then throw it in his face as she doesnt look back while putting on her pixel sunglasses.....
....then she cant equally be the naive, inexperienced, meek, and frankly dumb character she has to be in order to let Tybalt have ANY sway over her. If she has the capability to instantly size up Rusty, then it should apply to Tybalt as well. With how Tybalt treats Jill and her friends irl, and how he essentially stalks her on rooster, its totally illogical that she doesnt understand the kind of person he is. Compared to Rusty, Tybalt is a cartoon character lol
you cant really have a damsel in distress that has actual agency in a story. Genuine characters have agency, damsels are more like objects/plot devices for the actual characters to interact with.
Well yea see, all this tells me is that the development time has gone on for too long lol. It's fun to analyze the game but at some point it just devolves into overanalyzing things. People were arguing about STEVE at some point. That annoying guy from the beginning of the game. Mild discontent eventually turns into valid criticisms which will eventually just turn into vitriol towards the dev. It's not always the same people who praise the dev, it's usually the people who have a chip in their shoulders regarding the dev then others with mild discontent decide to chime in.
DPC isn't the best writer but he's definitely better than most devs here. Not saying he should go be an author though. I really don't think the writing is what's most important. I don't really give a shit about the drama. I just see them as plot devices that move the story forward. If I wanted something deep and meaningful, then I'd just read a book. I'm here for that old school, partying college experience with some sentimental moments thrown in sometimes as some dumbass 18 year-old learns what it means to grow up. It seems like I'm not alone on that. That's why I don't really understand people who said they cried during some parts. Like what? Sure, I can appreciate the mood being created but it's not going to evoke some kind of strong emotion. Not every single character has to be make sense or be this self-actualized, strong, independent, whatever, whatever. I mean look at Quinn, you're telling me she's in financial straits because she sucks at slanging weed to a bunch of college kids even when she basically has a monopoly on the market? Damn, she should quit fucking around and just hit the books.
It's like a Marvel movie. You're not really going to sit there and wonder how they can even afford that big flying ship in the sky. You're there to watch superhumans fight each other and the fun interactions between Captain America and Tony Stark. You can see the twists and turns from a mile away, but you're still going to enjoy it (Though tbh, I can't remember the last time I saw a Marvel movie. I could've used a different example but whatever. Point stands). You can still appreciate the "clever" or "deep" moments because they exist but it doesn't mean that's what the movie is supposed to be. Same logic for soap operas. You're not there for the writing. It's just fun escapism. People always going around and saying "Oh it needs a message" or "it needs to do the hur-dur-dur". Nah. Not every single thing has to be like that. It's more about the simple interactions between characters and the action (physical and non-physical) than it is about how the characters interact with the conflict. Who cares how we get there? What matters is that the premise stays the same throughout. It'd be off-putting as hell to suddenly have it transition to basically being lectured for half an hour about something because enough people complained about it.
It may be overrated in terms of writing but it's popular for a reason. It hits all the right notes and it knows its target audience. Anyone here that comes because they're attracted to the "deep story" is just a plus for DPC. Those same people then try to pressure the creator to make it something it's not. That's one of the instances when I can appreciate DPC's stubbornness, though ... ep 8 felt like he was starting to crack (not talking about Jill or whatever people are talking about in this regard). It may just turn into another game that I just get from here instead of going to Patreon. We'll see with ep 9.
Honestly. DPC could be fully intending to make BADIK that but I really don't think that's what makes it popular.
DPC isn't the best writer but he's definitely better than most devs here. Not saying he should go be an author though. I really don't think the writing is what's most important. I don't really give a shit about the drama. I just see them as plot devices that move the story forward. If I wanted something deep and meaningful, then I'd just read a book. I'm here for that old school, partying college experience with some sentimental moments thrown in sometimes as some dumbass 18 year-old learns what it means to grow up. It seems like I'm not alone on that. That's why I don't really understand people who said they cried during some parts. Like what? Sure, I can appreciate the mood being created but it's not going to evoke some kind of strong emotion. Not every single character has to be make sense or be this self-actualized, strong, independent, whatever, whatever. I mean look at Quinn, you're telling me she's in financial straits because she sucks at slanging weed to a bunch of college kids even when she basically has a monopoly on the market? Damn, she should quit fucking around and just hit the books.
It's like a Marvel movie. You're not really going to sit there and wonder how they can even afford that big flying ship in the sky. You're there to watch superhumans fight each other and the fun interactions between Captain America and Tony Stark. You can see the twists and turns from a mile away, but you're still going to enjoy it (Though tbh, I can't remember the last time I saw a Marvel movie. I could've used a different example but whatever. Point stands). You can still appreciate the "clever" or "deep" moments because they exist but it doesn't mean that's what the movie is supposed to be. Same logic for soap operas. You're not there for the writing. It's just fun escapism. People always going around and saying "Oh it needs a message" or "it needs to do the hur-dur-dur". Nah. Not every single thing has to be like that. It's more about the simple interactions between characters and the action (physical and non-physical) than it is about how the characters interact with the conflict. Who cares how we get there? What matters is that the premise stays the same throughout. It'd be off-putting as hell to suddenly have it transition to basically being lectured for half an hour about something because enough people complained about it.
It may be overrated in terms of writing but it's popular for a reason. It hits all the right notes and it knows its target audience. Anyone here that comes because they're attracted to the "deep story" is just a plus for DPC. Those same people then try to pressure the creator to make it something it's not. That's one of the instances when I can appreciate DPC's stubbornness, though ... ep 8 felt like he was starting to crack (not talking about Jill or whatever people are talking about in this regard). It may just turn into another game that I just get from here instead of going to Patreon. We'll see with ep 9.
Honestly. DPC could be fully intending to make BADIK that but I really don't think that's what makes it popular.
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i also kinda take issue with this from a story perspective. Jill only has resisted Tybalt for the last however long its been because DPC never explicitly says anything happened offscreen. IMO, The in universe writing doesnt line up with Jill not have already dated Tybalt solely because she refuses to say no to people and due to her overly polite nature and middle school mindset when it comes to what dating is. if she was dumb enough to fall for the blackmail plot, then 2 or 3 years ago she was likely even dumber and easier to manipulate into a date.
this is just my take concerning Jill's character and her lack of consistency in characterization. of course in the end DPC will try to steer the canon where he wants it, but some things will probably just never jive 100% for me in BaDIK
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He may have been one of the terrible dates Jill mentions having. She talks in plural so it wasn't just Rusty she went on a date with.
My main problem with Jill's naivety with the Tybalt blackmail is her not talking to the other Preps to get their take on what happened. Not only does it not make sense that Jill lives in the same house as them but doesn't talk to them but it also means that we have to take a decision later on based on what we know not what Fuckface knows.
In the dorm party we're presented with an option to call a truce with the Preps as a whole. From what we see in cutscenes not involving Fuckface the Preps see Tybalt as an asshole like we do, so calling a truce doesn't seem to be an issue. However as far as Fuckface knows the only reason these guys aren't backing Tybalt's lies in court is Jill going on the dates with Tybalt, there is no way on Earth he would consider calling a truce with them at that point.
Is there a convenient thread on this website to see what DrPinkCake posted for his patreon updates? He posted something 3 days ago but you can't view it unless you're a patron.
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He posted about some new love interests routes coming in this new update: Stanley, the school receptionist, and Magnar.
That might actually be a good idea. Not for updates since that's basically just fluanting that someone's taking shit from Patreon and posting it here but for like minor troubleshooting (what seaons do I play? Why mod break game?) and it could even be posted on the first page too.
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