RonnieBoi

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I agree with you, if MC can have sex with Bella and Jill (not a threesome, just one after the other...), there won't be a lot of new scenes of sex in next episodes. We need to wait a long time and some dates before have sex with Jill. Jill has to ask to Bella for that too !? :sneaky:
Yes, but before she can give Jill her opinion, Bella first needs to properly test-drive the baseball bat herself! :D
 
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There's still easily plenty more sex scenes that can be had in future episodes, not just with Bella and Jill but others as well, so getting to potentially do it with them in ep 6 isn't an issue. The only issue, really, is that once it's been established the MC is in a sexual relationship with 1, 2, or all LIs, each episode is going to have to include some sort of lewd scene with each of them in order to keep the fans of each happy. But, these scenes could be "either/ors", as in there could be a choice between going to see Sage, or going to see M&J, for which the player will get a lewd/sex scene with them but miss out on one with the other LI(s).
I agree with your overall reasoning, but I'm not sure about the "either/ors." It seems to me that interchangeable sex scenes might actually increase DPCs workload rather than reduce it. He still needs to create renders/animations for each girl after all, even if a player will only see one of them.

In theory forcing the lewd scenes to be exclusive could simplify the plot (there only needs to be one setup for a sex scene instead of 2+), but that only works if the girls can be treated interchangeably. That might be true for special occasions (say, invite one girl home for the MC's birthday), but in general it's hard to see a lot of situations where it would make equal sense for the MC to encounter, for example, Bella or Sage.

Lastly, the more optional encounters there are, the more variables the game will need to track. Episode 5 already has signs of this; future sex scenes with Maya will need to have dialog addressing it being her first time having proper sex with the MC... unless it's her second (or more). DPC does seem to love him some variables, but I'm skeptical that could be sustained for ~10 more episodes.

I think it's more likely we will start to see distinct groupings emerge. The 5 main LIs will probably be mutually inclusive for a while, but side girls will start to be locked out by certain paths; technically, this has already happened with the Maya & Josy path locking out Cathy and Jade. I think we'll see more of that in the future (hopefully with better in-game explanations than Cathy got). That way DPC can make cut down the variables and make certain assumptions when balancing content in an episode.

Eventually the LI paths will start to diverge as well, but I'm not sure if that will be in the mid-game or only towards the end.
 

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Looking at the render count, they've done roughly 2400 renders in just over 3 months, that's around 800 renders per month and they say they still have 500-1000 left to make. Looking at the animations, they've done 120 which is around 40 animations per month and they say they've still got 20-50 left to go. All of this means they probably have just over one more month to produce the content of the episode, then they'll be on to coding and building the free-roam portions which will take a few weeks.
did he say anywhere that the 500+ renders left are full images?
i was very surprised when dpc wrote that he finished 130 of 160 points on his to do list from the (second?) last status update. i cannot imagine he finished so many tasks only to get bottlenecked by static renders.
(yes ive read that he focused on the simple ones first, but the remaining coding tasks he listed seem at least partly simple as well)
 

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I agree with your overall reasoning, but I'm not sure about the "either/ors." It seems to me that interchangeable sex scenes might actually increase DPCs workload rather than reduce it. He still needs to create renders/animations for each girl after all, even if a player will only see one of them.

In theory forcing the lewd scenes to be exclusive could simplify the plot (there only needs to be one setup for a sex scene instead of 2+), but that only works if the girls can be treated interchangeably. That might be true for special occasions (say, invite one girl home for the MC's birthday), but in general it's hard to see a lot of situations where it would make equal sense for the MC to encounter, for example, Bella or Sage.

Lastly, the more optional encounters there are, the more variables the game will need to track. Episode 5 already has signs of this; future sex scenes with Maya will need to have dialog addressing it being her first time having proper sex with the MC... unless it's her second (or more). DPC does seem to love him some variables, but I'm skeptical that could be sustained for ~10 more episodes.

I think it's more likely we will start to see distinct groupings emerge. The 5 main LIs will probably be mutually inclusive for a while, but side girls will start to be locked out by certain paths; technically, this has already happened with the Maya & Josy path locking out Cathy and Jade. I think we'll see more of that in the future (hopefully with better in-game explanations than Cathy got). That way DPC can make cut down the variables and make certain assumptions when balancing content in an episode.

Eventually the LI paths will start to diverge as well, but I'm not sure if that will be in the mid-game or only towards the end.
Whether future sex/lewd scenes are "either/ors", or they happen in sequence, it's not likely to cause a great increase in the workload. Think about it; if ep 7 will have a sex/lewd scene with each of the main LIs, what difference would it make if there's a choice between going to see M&J or going to see Sage, or if the Sage scene were to happen after the M&J scene? Both scenes still need to be made, but the choice option would cut down on having another setup scene, as you pointed out. So beyond adding a few extra variables, it could probably reduce workload to do it this way.

It also works in terms of forming the relationships because in the "either/or" scenario, if a player is on the Sage path but not on the M&J path, then the Sage scene would happen automatically and vice-versa for those on the M&J path but not on the Sage path. But for those players on both paths, this would represent a crucial choice because there could be variables tied to these scenes that will be called upon later and they could also have valuable RP points too.

We're also likely to get alternate scenes anyway given that the Jade/Cathy path seems to be running counter to the M&J path, and so M&J scenes for those not on their path might be replaced by Jade or Cathy scenes. So either this game finds itself in a place where all sex/lewd scenes happen in sequence with alternate Jade/Cathy scenes for the non-M&J path, or some of these scenes will be either/or decisions similar to the M&J choice in ep 5 and also have alternate Jade/Cathy scenes for the non-M&J path. In any case, the game is getting to the point where the number of potential sex scenes is increasing and this can be handled in 1 of 2 different ways.
 
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Well yeah, although I prefer it if Jill is less dependent on Bella when it is comes to some particular things :p but I understand if she seek her opinion first.
Assuming DPC decided to surprise us with a sex scene with Jill in Episode 6, then it would be nice if there are more variety with her lewd scenes in the future, he did make a poll to check if we would like to see more specific kinky stuff with certain characters, so why not include Jill in it :sneaky: Having said that, it will definitely feel odd for that to happen though, as I expected more emotional development with her and MC's relationship before coming to these points.
Episode 6 is expected to be one of the longest so I'm glad that we have many Jill moments packed in it ;) and I'm kinda excited to see some "leaks" from the beta tester to learn more about some of the events that will unfold, similar to what happened before episode 5 got released.
I Hope So.

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Well yeah, although I prefer it if Jill is less dependent on Bella when it is comes to some particular things :p but I understand if she seek her opinion first.
Assuming DPC decided to surprise us with a sex scene with Jill in Episode 6, then it would be nice if there are more variety with her lewd scenes in the future, he did make a poll to check if we would like to see more specific kinky stuff with certain characters, so why not include Jill in it :sneaky: Having said that, it will definitely feel odd for that to happen though, as I expected more emotional development with her and MC's relationship before coming to these points.
Episode 6 is expected to be one of the longest so I'm glad that we have many Jill moments packed in it ;) and I'm kinda excited to see some "leaks" from the beta tester to learn more about some of the events that will unfold, similar to what happened before episode 5 got released.
Yes i'd also like if Jill "cut the rope" will Bella but Bella is here to reassure and protect Jill and Jill is here to comfort Bella about the bad thing we will know later...
There is also this difference between Jill and Sage... Sage goes for sex before having feelings, but Jill seeks the Great Love forever. Jill is a little bit affraid with relationships, maybe because of Rusty and because of MC being a DIK too. This won't help even if she knows she is falling in love. She certainly has some education to make her waiting the good guy before having sex. This is a porngame, but all the beautiful girls won't have to be sluts in this game.
 
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To reduce render time it would probably be better to buy another computer for that price than a slight improvement in one.
Rendering in daz takes advantage of the graphic power (that in terms of simple precision is hundreds of times more efficient than a cpu) so improving the rest of the equipment would not give as much advantage as putting a much more powerful gpu as it is the case, so no, it is not worth a whole team, what he recently acquired with the 3090 would bring a technical advantage of almost half the time per render, taking into account that either it improves the quality of the renderings or it maintains it and shortens development time, depending on the time it takes to code and create dialogs, it may be more worth one or the other.
 

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Not improving the rest of the computer, I mean buying another one and having two computers rendering at the same time for the price of that gpu instead.
so you suggesting He should buy a 3rd PC ? :LOL: . Maybe, I don't know if the upkeep of 3 pc would worth it, especially if 2 constantly working 24/7 .

Yeah, surely He has more than 7000 patreon, but who know, what if lots of them drop out once the story goes in a direction they don't like. ? for Example Jill, became the big bad, the biggest bitch in the game. and Bella end up being a serial killer. How many of them will drop the game than? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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so you suggesting He should buy a 3rd PC ? :LOL: . Maybe, I don't know if the up upkeep of 3 pc would worth it, especially if 2 constantly working 24/7 .
Indeed. Not much point in a 3rd system. He often has a render queue going but that’s when he works on the other content. So a 3rd system could clear the queue quicker, but he still has to write, code And pose the images.
 
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Indeed. Not much point in a 3rd system. He often has a render queue going but that’s when he works on the other content. So a 3rd system could clear the queue quicker, but he still has to write, code And pose the images.
Exactly. :).
 

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Indeed. Not much point in a 3rd system. He often has a render queue going but that’s when he works on the other content. So a 3rd system could clear the queue quicker, but he still has to write, code And pose the images.
True. if you have the money and working alone he could buy a third 3rd pc. Instead of 3 updates per year he could make it five updates. PC 1 makes the animations, PC 2 makes the renders, and PC 3 do the queue, write, code.
 
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so you suggesting He should buy a 3rd PC ? :LOL: . Maybe, I don't know if the upkeep of 3 pc would worth it, especially if 2 constantly working 24/7 .

Yeah, surely He has more than 7000 patreon, but who know, what if lots of them drop out once the story goes in a direction they don't like. ? for Example Jill, became the big bad, the biggest bitch in the game. and Bella end up being a serial killer. How many of them will drop the game than? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
I say that it would be more efficient than changing the gpu in one computer, or I would have said that if my message hadn't been nuked :ROFLMAO: .
Indeed. Not much point in a 3rd system. He often has a render queue going but that’s when he works on the other content. So a 3rd system could clear the queue quicker, but he still has to write, code And pose the images.
He's admited that the render queue is the most limiting factor of making an episode.
 

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True. if you have the money and working alone he could buy a third 3rd pc. Instead of 3 updates per year he could make it five updates. PC 1 makes the animations, PC 2 makes the renders, and PC 3 do the queue, write, code.
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There could be more and longer animations now due to better cards, the manual input of work is still the same. The updates won't come faster, but they will definitely be more packed now
 
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There could be more and longer animations now due to better cards, the manual input of work is still the same. The updates won't come faster, but they will definitely be more packed now
Thank you. :)
Just because the machine can work faster, it does not mean he will be able to be faster, He still need to manage the things manually first.
 
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