VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [Dr PinkCake]

[sixart]

i just want more hangouts and broccolis with quinn
fuck the rest and their dramas

Fuck the broccoli... I take Quinn you can have the broccoli(s)

 

[gamingdevil800]

thank fuck there was an out from the li drama. game's called being a dik, not being a simp.
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I see you added Sally

Definitely will be the more fun path going forward as it looks like the MC will practically dump half of the side girls if you choose an LI and actually he already has without your input.

 

[shazba]

I'm not convinced that having sex with Jade is a game over, I mean how should Sage find out? Jade should tell her... It's not something a stepmom would confess to her daughter lightly.

at the most, dating both of them should make Jade back off and if she hinders MC and his relationship with Sage, order him to leave her alone...

One more reply. I don't think you guys are getting just how big a thing it is for a woman to find out that you fucked her Mother. You just can't imagine the powerful cosmic forces that are released by such an act.

Now as your homework assignment I want all of you to go out and fuck your girlfriend/wives Mom. If you are still alive next week you'll understand.

Does sister count ? Because after that, I got why hurricanes used to only be named after women.

Chekhov's gun.

Why DPC throws Jade to Tremolo´s arms? Jade is the one that seduces Tremolo. And that happens in the middle of the Hell Week with the quest of "fucking a theacher" and "fucking a feminist". DPC wants that Tremolo fucks Jade. First landmine. Then, the second landmine: the video of Jade and Tremolo in Burke´s hands. And after that, the third one: Jade is Sage´s mom... Why DPC would put such a complicated Chekhov´s gun, if he´s not going to shoot it against the player (Tremolo)

And the same happens with Quinn´s restaurant. DPC puts that offer in front of the player at the beginning of the game, when the player doesn´t even know yet what kind of game is this. It this the only chance for Tremolo to fuck in this game? Will it have consequences, or this is one of those games about "harem" in which the MC can fuck everybody without consequences? First landmine. Then, the second one: Burke is the main client (or maybe, main owner, we don´t know) of the restaurant. And the third one: Burke is Sage´s dad. Again, if DPC doesn´t shoot that Chekhov´s gun in Tremolo´s (the player) face, I would be extremelly surprised.

The new guy here is me, not you guys. Don´t you know already about DPC´s love for drama?

Most of you people miss one thing, when MC was fooling around with Jade, he wasn't in any serious relationship with Sage, they were only fuck buddies and it was nothing serious between them, so you can't fuck your girlfriend's mom if you don't even have a girlfriend.
Sage implied multiple times that she has no problem with MC fucking other girls, because they weren't in any relationship, sure she will be pissed if she finds out that her boyfriend was messing around with her mother, but that was BEFORE they got together if the player chose so, so i highly doubt this will break the future relationship with Sage.

She will be angry and that will affect their relationship, but like i said, it will not break it

This is Sage, I don't think she'll be thinking this through logically...

But I'm sure it will just be an unnoticeable bump in the relationship. People go through it all the time...

Spoiler: Nope, he's fucked!

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[Devil-jin]

Holy crap this game is awesome. Best one I've played thus far. Bella and Quinn are my favorites.

 

[Deleted member 4212304]

Don't use logic when she's angry.

Arguments against Sage being mad you fucked her mom are on the level of We were on a break" Friends level shit.

 

[RukiRG]

Yeah and another 1000 pages of whining and crying about " I ran into a bug... "

Well... That's another story... But tbh I never run into a bug, except doc traps for anti-cheating

 

[shazba]

Question: how would you translate "to hit things up"? That´s something that Lily says to Tremolo: "two people who stick together and do shit. Fuck, party, hit things up..."

I'm a native english speaker and I didn't get that either. it must be swedlish

When you "hit someone up", you go to see them, or contact them. "Hitting them up" is not to be confused with "hitting them upside the head"...

Dude1: "I'll hit you up tomorrow dude."​

Dude2: "Great, I'll see you then dude."​

Similarly, to "hit the town" is to go to town, and do shit (I'm not talking about taking a dump on Main St).

So to "hit things up", is to go out and do stuff.

It's not hard to understand, but it does come across as a bastardisation of more common sayings.

This is one of the most annoying things in the way the game is written. It's obvious in several places that DPC doesn't want the player to know certain things or doesn't want the player communicating what they know to another character because it will undermine the plot or because there's a 'Shocking Reveal'. Personally I wish he'd just give up on these SR's in his writing, especially as most of the players have already figured out the SR long before it's sprung.

Nah, people love it. Even the Chad/Troy reveal blew a few minds here no matter how many times people spelled it out in advance.

You take the restaurant too seriously. It's just a plot mechanic that allows you to
1) to spend money to the player, which MC has accumulated a lot through mini-games. That's why he invented Madame. An easy way for a player to spend money.
2) It allows you to quickly get sex scenes in the first chapter.
Moreover, the MC talked about the so-called restaurant only with Riona and Camila, and then only in Chapter 5. MС didn't even think about whether it was right or not, he just perceives it as a way for girls to earn money for the maintenance of the mansion. Forcing the player to replay right from the first chapter is too much even for DPC. Because all the key decisions that affect the progress with girls appear only in episode 4.

No, I'm pretty certain the restaurant isn't just a porn game mechanic. It caused Mona to leave. Characters like Cammy are involved even though they think less of themselves doing it. It's definitely part o the story.

I gladly was Jade's toy.
I never shared the video, because it is FAR more amusing to let Derek step up to the plate.
I avoided any choices to hurt my chances with Bella.
I play with Sage.
I avoided the restaurant. I don't pay in real life, not going to in a porn game.
So I am a happy fella.
DPC is a drama queen extraordinary. I am just hoping he avoids his past FUBAR from Acting Lessons. Almost any other drama I could live with.
Peace

My mc never paid for the restaurant either, Maya and her endless supply of cash on her board did.

That's how branching in videogames works.

You have main plot points that move the story forward (get to B&R, hell week, rebuilding, etc) and branching plots (each LI is a branch).

Up until the very end of the game no developer can afford the branches to change the main story. That's the way most rpg games work and it's the only way to do it because if your branches change the main story you end up in development hell with dozens of branches, development time skyrockets and the story becomes a mess. Bethesda can't do it with hundreds of professional developers, it gets worse for a single developer like DPC.

The main plot points need to be unrelated to the outcome of the branching plots. But those main plot points can be reactive to the branches (i.e. you can rebuild the mansion with/without Maya&Josy, so the cleaning scene changes) but the branches will NOT change the outcome of each main plot point (you WILL rebuild the mansion for sure, being with Maya/Sage/Jill/single etc don't change the story)

So, because this is the way this stuff work we know for sure that the outcome of the visit to the Burke's is unrelated to fucking Jade, Sage, Maya, etc. or choosing the restaurant, because this things are optional. Maya will/will not (we don't know what's going to happen) get the tuition in a way unrelated to the branches (you fucked/not fucked Jade, Maya or Sage). I don't know what DPC has planned but Ch.9 need to follow this rule.

So, the main story will not be changed but the choices can change the branches, fucking Jade will not change the main story but it can end your relationship with Sage or Jade.

I reckon "Intertwined" does a decent job of really serious branching. It's almost like playing a different game depending on which girl you end up with. Of course it's a lot shorter than BaDIK, but it's only been around half the time.

One thing I reckon Intertwined does better than BaDIK is when you like a girl in college, you hang out with her heaps. Like seriously, you'd catch up with her for lunch every day that you're both on campus (and considering none of the characters are commuting, that'd be every day!). You make out with her every opportunity.

I'm giving BaDIK the benefit of the doubt since only at the end of Ep8 did the mc decide things were serious, but it's time to step the PDA up a notch now!

One more reply. I don't think you guys are getting just how big a thing it is for a woman to find out that you fucked her Mother. You just can't imagine the powerful cosmic forces that are released by such an act.

Now as your homework assignment I want all of you to go out and fuck your girlfriend/wives Mom. If you are still alive next week you'll understand.

Does she have to be conscious? My mom-in-law is staying over tonight. If I did her F95 style (i.e. in her sleep), does that count?

And this is completely unrelated to anything. Darkdevil66, I just noticed you always have 666 posts!

 

[mightybored]

So, anyone else expecting Elena and John Boy to invite MC to a threesome by the end of the game?

 

[DavDR]

When you "hit someone up", you go to see them, or contact them. "Hitting them up" is not to be confused with "hitting them upside the head"...

Dude1: "I'll hit you up tomorrow dude."​

Dude2: "Great, I'll see you then dude."​

Similarly, to "hit the town" is to go to town, and do shit (I'm not talking about taking a dump on Main St).

So to "hit things up", is to go out and do stuff.

It's not hard to understand, but it does come across as a bastardisation of more common sayings.


Nah, people love it. Even the Chad/Troy reveal blew a few minds here no matter how many times people spelled it out in advance.


No, I'm pretty certain the restaurant isn't just a porn game mechanic. It caused Mona to leave. Characters like Cammy are involved even though they think less of themselves doing it. It's definitely part o the story.


My mc never paid for the restaurant either, Maya and her endless supply of cash on her board did.


I reckon "Intertwined" does a decent job of really serious branching. It's almost like playing a different game depending on which girl you end up with. Of course it's a lot shorter than BaDIK, but it's only been around half the time.

One thing I reckon Intertwined does better than BaDIK is when you like a girl in college, you hang out with her heaps. Like seriously, you'd catch up with her for lunch every day that you're both on campus (and considering none of the characters are commuting, that'd be every day!). You make out with her every opportunity.

I'm giving BaDIK the benefit of the doubt since only at the end of Ep8 did the mc decide things were serious, but it's time to step the PDA up a notch now!


Does she have to be conscious? My mom-in-law is staying over tonight. If I did her F95 style (i.e. in her sleep), does that count?

And this is completely unrelated to anything. Darkdevil66, I just noticed you always have 666 posts!

Nah, people love it. Even the Chad/Troy reveal blew a few minds here no matter how many times people spelled it out in advance.

You should respond to the whole conversation, not just the one post. This one was a non KRJ conversation with Felice about obvious things that the MC knows but doesn't address, like telling Sage about the prostitution. And people don't love it they bitch about it all the time, at least Felice and I do so it must be a significant problem.

Does she have to be conscious? My mom-in-law is staying over tonight. If I did her F95 style (i.e. in her sleep), does that count?

Yes she has to be conscious, otherwise you'll have to go back on the medication again

 

[shazba]

Nah, people love it. Even the Chad/Troy reveal blew a few minds here no matter how many times people spelled it out in advance.

You should respond to the whole conversation, not just the one post. This one was a non KRJ conversation with Felice about obvious things that the MC knows but doesn't address, like telling Sage about the prostitution. And people don't love it they bitch about it all the time, at least Felice and I do so it must be a significant problem.

The whole convo's been done to death I'm sure.

If the mc is involved in the fast food business, he'd keep his mouth shut. If he turned Quinn down, unlike the reader, he's had fuck all to do with it after that and it wouldn't be on the forefront of his mind.

If a girl wanted to give me the number to organise paid blowjobs etc. at college and I turned her down, I wouldn't go running around telling people, I wouldn't even give a shit.

If I thought the girls were being forced into it, that's a different story, but as the reader of BaDIK, we know more about what's going on than clueless Fucky McFuckface. He's either looking to get his dick wet at every opportunity (and so far he's received no complaints from solicited or unsolicited conquests), or he's too focused on other shit.

At some point he might be like, "Fuck, I don't think Sage knows about all this shit... Maybe I should talk to Quinn about it, she'll definitely be up front and not cagey at all..." but right now, while the readers have had almost 3 years to be digesting all the tomfuckery that's been going on at B&R, the mc hasn't even had time to take a shit.

 

[DavDR]

The whole convo's been done to death I'm sure.

If the mc is involved in the fast food business, he'd keep his mouth shut. If he turned Quinn down, unlike the reader, he's had fuck all to do with it after that and it wouldn't be on the forefront of his mind.

If a girl wanted to give me the number to organise paid blowjobs etc. at college and I turned her down, I wouldn't go running around telling people, I wouldn't even give a shit.

If I thought the girls were being forced into it, that's a different story, but as the reader of BaDIK, we know more about what's going on than clueless Fucky McFuckface. He's either looking to get his dick wet at every opportunity (and so far he's received no complaints from solicited or unsolicited conquests), or he's too focused on other shit.

At some point he might be like, "Fuck, I don't think Sage knows about all this shit... Maybe I should talk to Quinn about it, she'll definitely be up front and not cagey at all..." but right now, while the readers have had almost 3 years to be digesting all the tomfuckery that's been going on at B&R, the mc hasn't even had time to take a shit.

Quinn makes it pretty specific what she's offering in Ep1, MC would have to be pretty dense to not catch on to what's happening*. If MC is giving guitar lessons to Sage they've become pretty good friends and as president of the HOT's it's an issue that definately would be of concern to Sage. So I do think it is pretty weird that MC wouldn't pass this information on.

It's like the stupidly vague warning that MC gives Maya about Quinn.

* That's not to say that arguing that MC IS pretty dense would be totally out of line. DPC seems to have some talent for writing clueless characters.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

* That's not to say that arguing that MC IS pretty dense would be totally out of line. DPC seems to have some talent for writing clueless characters.

Though MC definitely takes the cake when it comes to the most clueless characters.

 

[shazba]

Quinn makes it pretty specific what she's offering in Ep1, MC would have to be pretty dense to not catch on to what's happening*. If MC is giving guitar lessons to Sage they've become pretty good friends and as president of the HOT's it's an issue that definately would be of concern to Sage. So I do think it is pretty weird that MC wouldn't pass this information on.

It's like the stupidly vague warning that MC gives Maya about Quinn.

* That's not to say that arguing that MC IS pretty dense would be totally out of line. DPC seems to have some talent for writing clueless characters.

Though MC definitely takes the cake when it comes to the most clueless characters.

If the mc doesn't accept her offer, the journal log identifies it specifically as "sexual favours", so he knows. But once again, by the time the mc has developed a good friendship with Sage, so much other shit is going down that the restaurant is just water the bridge.

I'll pay the vague warning to Maya though. That was totally ridiculous. You don't say someone is "evil" and then completely fail to qualify it (once again, if he was getting takeout he might be worried that Maya would think he was a pervert, but if he wasn't partaking, he should have told her outright).

 

[ename144]

Negative. The pathing is just stupid. I've done everything for Jill. She doesn't give a shit that I have permanent DIK status. I helped her at the recital did everything properly, but DrPinkCake seems to think I can't choose someone who I'm obviously interested in and she in me when sitting down at the table. All because of my "Status". It makes no sense. If being a huge DIK was a problem there should be scenes where the girl tells you they aren't interested instead of me having to break something off even though I don't want to. He has it backwards.

Unfortunately, that's just the way the Affinity system is designed. It doesn't make logical sense, it purely a surface level morality meter: DIK=Sex Fiend, CHICK=Sensitve Guy. Obviously, Jill wouldn't be comfortable settling down with a sex fiend, so naturally that relationship is doomed. Trivial facts like Jill not knowing about all the MC's bedpost notches (or even the MC not actually being a sex fiend in the first place) are beside the point. The system is theatre, not science.

This is further compounded by the way DPC despises metagaming, and thus obscures the actual triggers based on the Affinity system as much as possible. So rather than have Jill articulate specific misgivings over the MC's Major DIK Decisions (for example, his reeking of alcohol after partying without limits at the Pink Rose, or expressing genuine horror if he punched Tybalt), she will just mention that "something doesn't feel right" and then not invite him to meet her friends.

Meanwhile, Jill will offer reactions to all sorts of stimuli that aren't necessarily indicative of what truly matters, just in case the waters weren't muddy enough already. She has a near meltdown over people recognizing the MC's dick pic (which is no big deal in picking her branch); she treats the Tybalt punch as a minor infraction (when it's 1/11 of the way to DIK Affinity); she passively accepts the MC tending to Sage instead of her picnic (even though it is an autofail condition for some reason).

This is why I think the game is far better with a walkthrough. Once we can see past the fluff and can understand what DPC is thinking, it's much easier to work out where we stand. Then the Affinity system becomes a more manageable problem that helps us envision the game DPC was trying to make.

but even if he is a customer of the restaurant, he should at least have some sense of guilt, instead he simply pretends not to do anything.

with MC we can know what he's thinking, the complete silence about Quinn (of course especially if he's not in a relationship with her) is deafening.

Eh, we often don't really know what the MC is thinking - or more precisely, why the MC is thinking that specific thought and not one of the many other potential thoughts he arguably should be thinking. It's just another way DPC tries to keep us on the rails without tipping his hand. Hence the MC can be worried that Quinn would use Maya the way she uses Camilla, but will still be able to claim he didn't have any reason to mention Quinn's vice racket to his BFF Sage in the subsequent month(s).

One more reply. I don't think you guys are getting just how big a thing it is for a woman to find out that you fucked her Mother. You just can't imagine the powerful cosmic forces that are released by such an act.

Now as your homework assignment I want all of you to go out and fuck your girlfriend/wives Mom. If you are still alive next week you'll understand.

Sorry, too busy preparing for the holiday, no time to find a girlfriend and seduce her mother. But I have seen "The Graduate," so I submit that your thesis is disproven in fiction - which is probably the better metric for DPC.

In all... huh, seriousness doesn't fit this sort of debate but let's go with it. In all seriousness, I think it's *possible* that the MC's relationship with Sage might survive her learning about Jade, but it sure as hell wouldn't be forgone conclusion. It would depend on exactly how she learns the truth, how long the MC and Sage have been together then, and how the MC responds to the revelation.

And if the MC tries the "you said you didn't care if I fucked other girls" line, I don't think anyone will ever find his body.

When you "hit someone up", you go to see them, or contact them. "Hitting them up" is not to be confused with "hitting them upside the head"...

Dude1: "I'll hit you up tomorrow dude."
Dude2: "Great, I'll see you then dude."

Similarly, to "hit the town" is to go to town, and do shit (I'm not talking about taking a dump on Main St).

So to "hit things up", is to go out and do stuff.

It's not hard to understand, but it does come across as a bastardisation of more common sayings.

Yeah, as a native (american) English speaker I have heard that phrase before, but it's not very common. I've no idea what it's etymology is.

I reckon "Intertwined" does a decent job of really serious branching. It's almost like playing a different game depending on which girl you end up with. Of course it's a lot shorter than BaDIK, but it's only been around half the time.

Honestly, I think Intertwined uses a similar approach to BaDIK. Intertwined uses the various +RP points to gate most of the branching while BaDIK uses discrete decisions, but both have a default story that involves a bunch of seemingly unrelated girls the MC can choose to involve himself with. The main difference is that all the main LI's in BaDIK are plot bearing, and thus they can't be dropped out of the narrative if the MC turns them down (as opposed to the way Alexis in Intertwined vanishes almost without a trace if you refuse to sleep with her).

As a result, BaDIK lets you stay on all the main LI paths until the crossroads in Episode 8 and see nearly all their content in a single run, whereas Intertwined will only show you certain snippets based on your scores. And if you thought the Affinity system was an opaque mess, trying to work out the triggers for Intertwined's pathing will make you head asplode (not helped by the relative scarcity of good walkthroughs for that game).

I am curious to see how BaDIK handles unchosen LIs in the various branches in Season 3.

 

[shazba]

I am curious to see how BaDIK handles unchosen LIs in the various branches in Season 3.

My fear is they will all still remain good friends in spite of how they've been treated:

• Bella accepts it's the right thing to do, but she's hurt (unless she's the one who ends it, but ultimately it's the same result).
• M&J somewhat amicably dumped the mc way back, after which their friendship was never stronger, so when he dumps them, I'm sure they'll bounce back with each other.
• Jill ends their relationship humiliatingly in public, while he begs for a second chance, all while decreeing (not asking) "And you'll be my friend...", after which the mc was like, "Yeah, I deserved that". All because he saw his sick friend... separate rant here.
• Sage is like, "Cool, maybe we'll hook up later, but I won't wait for you (but I will)".

It's funny because it's Jade who takes the breakup hard, when all along she's doing it to fuck with Stephen and it's so blatantly a doomed relationship.

 

[Warscared]

was disappointed at how reasonably sage reacted to being rejected three times by the horsedick she wants badly to ride. would like to see her flip her ginger lid when she finds out the guy who won't fuck her has stirred every other pot around her, all her sisterfriends AND her mom, even paying money for what she's throwing at him for free. maybe she'll put herself on the menu out of sheer desperation to get stuffed.
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[shazba]

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That's a different game, it's called, "Being a Knob".

 

[Gh0st_Harambe]

My fear is they will all still remain good friends in spite of how they've been treated:

• Bella accepts it's the right thing to do, but she's hurt (unless she's the one who ends it, but ultimately it's the same result).
• M&J somewhat amicably dumped the mc way back, after which their friendship was never stronger, so when he dumps them, I'm sure they'll bounce back with each other.
• Jill ends their relationship humiliatingly in public, while he begs for a second chance, all while decreeing (not asking) "And you'll be my friend...", after which the mc was like, "Yeah, I deserved that". All because he saw his sick friend... separate rant here.
• Sage is like, "Cool, maybe we'll hook up later, but I won't wait for you (but I will)".

It's funny because it's Jade who takes the breakup hard, when all along she's doing it to fuck with Stephen and it's so blatantly a doomed relationship.

Its funny to see how Jill rejected him becouse he take care of a sick friend. What a nice way to return the favor, she easily could talk to him in private, there was no need to humiliate him like that.

 

[thorin0815]

Its funny to see how Jill rejected him becouse he take care of a sick friend. What a nice way to return the favor, she easily could talk to him in private, there was no need to humiliate him like that.

Yeah, that's pure BS and I'm afraid that this case won't be the only one in the future in which the branching gets completely out of hand.

 

[DavDR]

My fear is they will all still remain good friends in spite of how they've been treated:

• Bella accepts it's the right thing to do, but she's hurt (unless she's the one who ends it, but ultimately it's the same result).
• M&J somewhat amicably dumped the mc way back, after which their friendship was never stronger, so when he dumps them, I'm sure they'll bounce back with each other.
• Jill ends their relationship humiliatingly in public, while he begs for a second chance, all while decreeing (not asking) "And you'll be my friend...", after which the mc was like, "Yeah, I deserved that". All because he saw his sick friend... separate rant here.
• Sage is like, "Cool, maybe we'll hook up later, but I won't wait for you (but I will)".

It's funny because it's Jade who takes the breakup hard, when all along she's doing it to fuck with Stephen and it's so blatantly a doomed relationship.

I'm sure it'll be exactly like this, and I hate it. Just in case it doesn't I'm currently suffering through a M/J run so I can dump them at the beginning of Ep9 (if that Episode ever land's).