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anyone else find the sex scenes in ep 9 a bit meh? the only scenes I replayed are Jade's and the Sarah/Mel ending scene.
 

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Jacob after meeting Zoey at the Halloween party. :Kappa:
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LTG, one of the biggest idiots on the interwebz. But the FGC wouldn't be the same without him and his low skilled RQ ass xD


Good analysis, but I disagree a little about Sage's regression. Maybe i'm biased, but...
As a personality, Sage is very versatile, she is very fair and caring, at parties she behaves differently, like a real party girl,but there is nothing slutty about her behavior. What is she doing? Kisses with Josie, wants to makeup with Maya, flirting with MC regardless of the route. She likes MC, and kissing girls for fun is normal. Sage loves to party hard.
I agree about the costume, it was lazy and even the MC commented on it.
Her walk of shame is a fucking legend, incredible charisma, self-confidence and thus she declares her relationship with the MC. Loud, with theatrical effect and fireworks. It was strong.
As my friend who plays the game said, I'll quote: "After that I don't think we deserve Sage. Not at all."
I also highly recommend trying the remaining routes, especially Bella, the dialogues there are top notch.

My costume list is similar to yours, except instead of Sarah and Melanie, I have Josie. The fairy costume really suits her, and these two are wearing bunny costumes, it's sexy but a little boring. I'm add Heather to the list of boring and worst costumes, seriously, a beach swimsuit? Who would think of dressing up like this for Halloween? :LOL:
Sage wise, I agree there is no regression too. She was tender at the beginning. But the entire episode is 1 party.
She was in party mode, up for having fun, she is known to party hard, knew MC was working hard and was all about rewarding him and having a great night. I believe that she will be "back to normal" in the next episode. It's just that a party setting with drinks brought out this side of her. Because lets face it, SHE is the president of the HOTs. She wouldn't be it if she wasn't a party person and a freak. She's slowing down a bit maybe due to studies, but I bet she was even wilder before.

That's my take on it.
 

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I don't think she actually wants to makeup with Maya, she's just joking. The real purpose of that scene is not saying us that Sage is horny and wants to makeup with Maya, but introduce the dialogue.

S: Have you kissed a boy?
M: Yes
S: For fun?
M: No, it was real.
S: So, you aren't 100%?
M: I don't know what I am.
S: Must be a hell of a boy.
M: It was Jack.

Now, Sage knows that somehow, something real happened between MC and Maya, not only "MC had a crush on Maya and Maya refused him because she's lesbian" (what I think Sage believed so far). If MC is not into Sage's path, this is just gossip. That scene if not even needed, is just filling material. BUT, If MC is into Sage's path, it means that somehow, Maya enters into MC's "Exes" category, and some jealousy can be expected from her, the same way she may be jealous for the fact that MC invited Zoey to the party or if MC flirts with other girls.

About kissing Josy, it's like the HOTs and daughters kissing each others during the game of "spin the dildo", as a dare and to turn on the boys looking. Sage is playing there and trying to turn on MC, both if they are fuck buddies or not. That's why her first interaction with MC is asking him if that costume is for turning on girls with his "hot body". Again, that interaction makes sense if MC is into Sage's path, if not is just filling material.

The problem with most of the scenes of a given girl is that should work the same if MC is following the route of that girl, and if not, because DPC only can create a limited number of specific scenes for any given girl. Some of the scenes and interactions with Sage only make sense if they are fuck buddies and almost couple. I don't think that makes a lot of sense that Sage flirts with MC during the party in several occasions and try to turn him on, if MC rejected Sage, specially if it was after the scene when he tells Sage that he wants to have dates with her and have something real together, not only sex.

DPC needs that Sage and MC remain friends for the sake of the plot, but character-wise, a proud girl like Sage that also has been dumped by another guy a few days before, wouldn't react the way she does in that scene. She should react like Quinn, simulating indifference, or even with repressed anger, and would not continue involved with MC in party planning and would not interact with MC in the party. But again, it would go against the plot, so we have to suspend the incredulity if MC rejected Sage. I think that Quinn's, Bella's or Jill's path after MC's rejection has way more sense. They react the way their characters should react, according what we know about them.
there are two points where I see it quite differently from you.

I don't see why the fact that there was a kiss between Maya and MC makes any difference, now either Sage is as naive as Jill or I don't see how she can think that there was "only" a rejection between Maya and MC.
even if MC doesn't take refuge in her room on the night of Josy's arrival, there is still the movie night episode with all the HOTs, where Mc asks her not to invite them and when he finds them there he is visibly upset.

At this point in the story there is very little room for the LIs to be unaware of the special relationship that might exist between each of them and MC, the only exception being Bella, of whom only Jill may be aware.

in my opinion that kiss only serves to start the speculations about other possible threesome (the same happens later in Maya and Josy's confessions) whether it's a real omen or a simple joke, we'll see as we play

and the other point where we don't agree is Sage's pride, she is in theory, and in some episodes she shows it, but not with MC, with MC she's the ultimate in humility. if Mc rejects her as a fuckbuddy (who would do that? ) she still tries to propose again when they are in Tybalt's room and is rejected again automatically, and then at the HOTs party she's there again to ask him for a chance. and in case we pursued her path but discarded her at the last decision in chapter 8 Sage wants us to know that if things change she might be available.

the word pride, at least in the relationship with MC, doesn't really exist for Sage, so the fact that she still flirts with him at the party, even if only "friends" is believable, a bit sad but believable.
 

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anyone else find the sex scenes in ep 9 a bit meh? the only scenes I replayed are Jade's and the Sarah/Mel ending scene.
in what sense? technical or content-related?

they were all quite rich in alternatives, and apart from Jill's two which I found quite embarrassing, Maya and Josy's threesome and Bella's final scene are for me among the best scenes in the game
 
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there are two points where I see it quite differently from you.

I don't see why the fact that there was a kiss between Maya and MC makes any difference, now either Sage is as naive as Jill or I don't see how she can think that there was "only" a rejection between Maya and MC.
even if MC doesn't take refuge in her room on the night of Josy's arrival, there is still the movie night episode with all the HOTs, where Mc asks her not to invite them and when he finds them there he is visibly upset.

At this point in the story there is very little room for the LIs to be unaware of the special relationship that might exist between each of them and MC, the only exception being Bella, of whom only Jill may be aware.

in my opinion that kiss only serves to start the speculations about other possible threesome (the same happens later in Maya and Josy's confessions) whether it's a real omen or a simple joke, we'll see as we play

and the other point where we don't agree is Sage's pride, she is in theory, and in some episodes she shows it, but not with MC, with MC she's the ultimate in humility. if Mc rejects her as a fuckbuddy (who would do that? ) she still tries to propose again when they are in Tybalt's room and is rejected again automatically, and then at the HOTs party she's there again to ask him for a chance. and in case we pursued her path but discarded her at the last decision in chapter 8 Sage wants us to know that if things change she might be available.

the word pride, at least in the relationship with MC, doesn't really exist for Sage, so the fact that she still flirts with him at the party, even if only "friends" is believable, a bit sad but believable.
That's my point. She's a proud person with Chad and others. Her problem with Chad is that Chad treated her like a fool and dumped her. A problem of ego an pride, not that she misses him because she was in love. But if MC rejects her multiple times, or dumps her after even proposing to go to dates with her and start a relationship, she's totally OK with that? Why? Not because it fits well with Sage's personality, but because DPC needs that she behaves differently with MC for the sake of the plot. Sage's story and general behavior with MC only makes sense if MC is in her path. If not, this character is just a "plot service". DPC makes her do whatever he needs for the sake of the story, even if it doesn't fit with her personality.

And about the kiss between Maya and MC, her reaction if MC and her and involved in a relationship is clear: she's concerned. If she were just thinking in a threesome with Maya, she would be smiling to the gossip, like she does if she's not in a relationship with her. It makes all the difference. The same that Zoey being invited at the party.

On the other hand, to think that if Sage is in a relationship with MC, is going to want a 3some with her and MC is stupid. When MC goes to live with Sage, he says to her "Maya lied to me, or kept something from me". Obviously now she thinks is her lesbianism. And she knows that MC had a crush on Maya because MC recognizes that when they are in the pool and with his attitude during the "movie night". What Sage thinks before the talk with Maya is "MC had a crush with Maya, then Josy came, Maya told MC that she was her girlfriend, and broke MC's heart, but now they seems to be friends, so it's OK if I befriend Maya too.". But after talking to Maya, she knows there were something more. Do you think that Sage, if is starting a relationship with MC, is going to try to organize a 3some with her boyfriend and the girl he had a crush with only a few weeks ago? A girl that is into a serious relationship? And knowing that her soon-to-be-boyfriend and Maya had a real story, something that even made Maya to have doubts about her lesbianism? I´m sorry but it's absurd. No girl in the world pushes her boyfriend into the arms of a girl he had feelings for, and reciprocated, unless she's stupid or wants to be dumped.

The same way is absurd that Sage would organize a 3some with a girl that could bring problems to MC with his brothers: Heather, Josy, Elena and Maya. Do you think Derek would be OK seeing Maya doing "the walk"?

I don't think DPC will go that way. It would be stupid.
 
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anyone else find the sex scenes in ep 9 a bit meh? the only scenes I replayed are Jade's and the Sarah/Mel ending scene.
Jade scene sucked ass. Just a lame quickie interrupted by Tybalt :sick: Her previous scenes in chap 4-8 were ten times better. The 3 last threesomes and Sage, Isabella & Quinn solo scenes were dope.
 

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Wow. What a place stag Vinny is. He throws some books on the floor. Well, if that's not gay. My MC wouldn't mind if Vinny fucked Chad, Troy and maybe Nick in the ass.

Vinny is no longer in college, so it's not about the alpha male bickering in the DIK pack, because none of the DIKs can decide whether or not Vinny can be accepted back into college.

I guess the "older-student-brother dynamic" exists. Tommy is probably the reason Vinny left. Once a DIK, always a DIK, DIKs for life. Rusty and Nick are still with Vinny too, we've known that since EP2. What are the DIKs? A family, brothers. What if the DIK brother Vinny wants to teach his younger DIK brother MC that Tommy is not good for the DIK family and tested the MC?

DIK: The MC hits Vinny and Vinny says that biting dogs need to be taught to behave.

NEUTRAL: Vinny says that barking dogs don't bite, which is absolute nonsense. But crucially, Vinny also says the MC should be more diplomatic.

CHICK: Vinny tells the MC that life doesn't work without fighting.

What Vinny says looks a lot like a lecture to me. We should also not forget what Nick said that Vinny split the DIKs and half liked Vinny and the other half did not. So Nick was saying that a lot of things got better with Vinny's departure. A lot, but not everything. The Vice President is still a loser who prefers to bury his head in the sand when problems arise instead of finding a solution to the problem.

Back to your alpha male. What are the most dangerous alpha males? Definitely not Vinny or Tommy. And why? Because they think they are alpha males and flaunt it. Vinny, on the other hand, has realized that the MC is a dangerous alpha male. The MC can when he wants to, does when he has to, and doesn't even know he's an alpha male. Guess why Zoey gets involved when the MC is badgering Oskar? Zoey is probably the only one who knows from high school how dangerous the MC can be. Vinny feels threatened by the MC because he can't size him up.

Also, I don't want my MC to be the top stag. Stags are eaten by predators.
Vinny doesn't have any hand-to-hand skills otherwise he would not of pulled the gun. That close in, MC should have stomped him right into the ground. Repeatedly.
 
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felicemastronzo

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That's my point. She's a proud person with Chad and others. Her problem with Chad is that Chad treated her like a fool and dumped her. A problem of ego an pride, not that she misses him because she was in love. But if MC rejects her multiple times, or dumps her after even proposing to go to dates with her and start a relationship, she's totally OK with that? Why? Not because it fits well with Sage's personality, but because DPC needs that she behaves differently with MC for the sake of the plot. Sage's story and general behavior with MC only makes sense if MC is in her path. If not, this character is just a "plot service". DPC makes her do whatever he needs for the sake of the story, even if it doesn't fit with her personality.

And about the kiss between Maya and MC, her reaction if MC and her and involved in a relationship is clear: she's concerned. If she were just thinking in a threesome with Maya, she would be smiling to the gossip, like she does if she's not in a relationship with her. It makes all the difference. The same that Zoey being invited at the party.

On the other hand, to think that if Sage is in a relationship with MC, is going to want a 3some with her and MC is stupid. When MC goes to live with Sage, he says to her "Maya lied to me, or kept something from me". Obviously now she thinks is her lesbianism. And she knows that MC had a crush on Maya because MC recognizes that when they are in the pool and with his attitude during the "movie night". What Sage thinks before the talk with Maya is "MC had a crush with Maya, then Josy came, Maya told MC that she was her girlfriend, and broke MC's heart, but now they seems to be friends, so it's OK if I befriend Maya too.". But after talking to Maya, she knows there were something more. Do you think that Sage, if is starting a relationship with MC, is going to try to organize a 3some with her boyfriend and the girl he had a crush with only a few weeks ago? A girl that is into a serious relationship? And knowing that her soon-to-be-boyfriend and Maya had a real story, something that even made Maya to have doubts about her lesbianism? I´m sorry but it's absurd. No girl in the world pushes her boyfriend into the arms of a girl he had feelings for, and reciprocated, unless she's stupid or wants to be dumped.

The same way is absurd that Sage would organize a 3some with a girl that could bring problems to MC with his brothers: Heather, Josy, Elena and Maya. Do you think Derek would be OK seeing Maya doing "the walk"?

I don't think DPC will go that way. It would be stupid.
Sage's behavior is not a necessity for the story; probably all LIs will in some way sooner or later give MC a second chance, even those who seemingly ended things harshly with him like Bella and Jill. so there was no need to emphasize this complete submissiveness on her part.
DPC chooses to have her behave this way, perhaps to balance other more uncomfortable aspects of her character (the fact that she has long refused to admit her "romantic" relationship with MC, the teasing about sexual performance...)
even at the party, Sage was the one who had the most reason to confront MC anyway; in the end, the party is more Sage's project than MC's. from this point, the presence of Bella and Jill, if not romantically involved with MC, is much more forced. but DPC chooses that only Sage continue to flirt with MC anyway, even though she knows he has chosen someone else, who might also be there. this is all part of the characterization DPC wants to give her, always taking into account his limitations.

on the threesome talk, it's probably just a DPC joke, but it's undeniable that he wants players to think about it, first the kiss, then Maya saying that she really likes Sage, and finally Sage opening up to the possibility of "many more" threesome.

theoretically Sage thought that Quinn also had feelings for MC, and Mc may have even confirmed it to her, but that was not a hindrance at all. the lying thing is all in the past, now erased (in this chapter Maya and Josy even explicitly admit that they lied), at BR they are all goldfish, the past is always far away.
by now Sage cannot be afraid of Maya and Josy from that point of view, they are girls like the others (in fact she has no problem with them, at the limit it is Zoey, who is a newcomer who raises some doubts for her), definitely she doesn't trust them as she mistakenly does with Quinn, but other than that they are now HOTs like the others.

the walk of shame then cannot be a problem and if it was just do it again not in the MC room but at the HOTs (as happened with Quinn and for a HOTs it remains the easiest solution)

I repeat: it is probably a joke by DPC, but the idea he wants to leave is this possibility.

if we really want, the fact that Sage knows about Maya and Josy's relationship makes the kiss even weirder, because it's one thing to kiss a friend as a joke, it's another to kiss a friend who you know might be particularly sensitive to that kiss
 

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Neither Maya nor Josy are in any particular danger. Their brothers, however, seem to be - Tommy has always been a drug addict, and I fear he might have got Derek hooked as well. Derek's behavior is not solely because of Ashley or the end of hell week ... those might have been catalysts, but I think he sought solace in more than alcohol and moved onto narcotics.

Recall in Ep. 6 during the mansion cleanup, Derek comes up from the basement looking ... odd. MC took him at his word when he said he was going to the bathroom and remarked how there isn't a bathroom in the basement, but in reality I think that's where Derek started taking drugs.

The Maya and Josy drama will be about saving their family - both Tommy and Derek - from drug addiction. This may explain why Quinn and MJ paths are so hardwired to be at odds with each other, as the narrative will force them against each other on the issue of drugs.
Wow, man! I do not know what to think. Honestly, I could not care any less about Tommy. He is as a douche as it gets. Derek, on the other hand, is our maggot brother, and has his heart is in the right place. Besides, depending on our relationship with Maya, he very well might end up becoming someone closer to the MC. I really hope you are reading too much there.
 

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Sage's behavior is not a necessity for the story; probably all LIs will in some way sooner or later give MC a second chance, even those who seemingly ended things harshly with him like Bella and Jill. so there was no need to emphasize this complete submissiveness on her part.
DPC chooses to have her behave this way, perhaps to balance other more uncomfortable aspects of her character (the fact that she has long refused to admit her "romantic" relationship with MC, the teasing about sexual performance...)
even at the party, Sage was the one who had the most reason to confront MC anyway; in the end, the party is more Sage's project than MC's. from this point, the presence of Bella and Jill, if not romantically involved with MC, is much more forced. but DPC chooses that only Sage continue to flirt with MC anyway, even though she knows he has chosen someone else, who might also be there. this is all part of the characterization DPC wants to give her, always taking into account his limitations.

on the threesome talk, it's probably just a DPC joke, but it's undeniable that he wants players to think about it, first the kiss, then Maya saying that she really likes Sage, and finally Sage opening up to the possibility of "many more" threesome.

theoretically Sage thought that Quinn also had feelings for MC, and Mc may have even confirmed it to her, but that was not a hindrance at all. the lying thing is all in the past, now erased (in this chapter Maya and Josy even explicitly admit that they lied), at BR they are all goldfish, the past is always far away.
by now Sage cannot be afraid of Maya and Josy from that point of view, they are girls like the others (in fact she has no problem with them, at the limit it is Zoey, who is a newcomer who raises some doubts for her), definitely she doesn't trust them as she mistakenly does with Quinn, but other than that they are now HOTs like the others.

the walk of shame then cannot be a problem and if it was just do it again not in the MC room but at the HOTs (as happened with Quinn and for a HOTs it remains the easiest solution)

I repeat: it is probably a joke by DPC, but the idea he wants to leave is this possibility.

if we really want, the fact that Sage knows about Maya and Josy's relationship makes the kiss even weirder, because it's one thing to kiss a friend as a joke, it's another to kiss a friend who you know might be particularly sensitive to that kiss
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The 3some with Quinn is before MC asks Sage to go to a date and start a relationship, and Sage knows that the last thing Quinn wants is a boyfriend and is not going to steal MC from her. "I know you don't kiss boys", says to her.

Sorry, nothing you say makes any sense. If DPC is going to do from now on Sage the stupid nympho that only wants to organize 3somes without thinking in the consequences or the logic of the story, I will leave her path for good. But I don't think that. If you are right, it would be awful writing, just for a silly scene of a 3some with Maya. No sale.

And Sage and MC being friends even if for at least two chapters Sage treats MC like shit (awful writing. MC should tell her to go to hell after getting his guitar back when she tries to blackmail him with that), even if MC refuses to have sex with her for several occasions, or even is she dumps her after asking her for a date, is just for the plot sake, to involve Sage in Maya's problems, in the party, and other things. Sage and MC flirting is for letting open the door of a future relationship between then, because is a porn game, not because it has sense. Again, Sage's acts only make sense if MC and her are involved in a relationship, first "fuck buddies" and friends, then a more serious one.
 

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The 3some with Quinn is before MC asks Sage to go to a date and start a relationship, and Sage knows that the last thing Quinn wants is a boyfriend and is not going to steal MC from her. "I know you don't kiss boys", says to her.
but there had already been the rebound guy crisis in which MC doesn't know if the role of fuckbuddy suits him anymore and even then he expressly wants their relationship to evolve. so MC's intentions are already clear, the scene during the walk at the end is just a repetition of what happened at the HOTs party (necessity of the story after the moment of the big decision).

Sorry, nothing you say makes any sense. If DPC is going to do from now on Sage the stupid nympho that only wants to organize 3somes without thinking in the consequences or the logic of the story, I will leave her path for good. But I don't think that. If you are right, it would be awful writing, just for a silly scene of a 3some with Maya. No sale.
but then if Sage really considers Josy a dangerous ex, would it really be such a good idea to kiss her in front of MC? Does she want him to get excited thinking about Josy? she clearly thinks it's no longer a problem for him

I never said that Sage will do just that, only that it seems clear to me that DPC winks at this situation, I don't think it's a coincidence if in the same chapter Sage kisses Josy, Maya admits that she finds Sage very attractive and Sage throws up the possibility of future threesomes. then it can be a joke or an omen.

who then would remain for the possible threesomes? who would these available girls be and who would enjoy Sage's full trust?
Melanie and Sarah? I don't think they are so in symbiosis with Sage

And Sage and MC being friends even if for at least two chapters Sage treats MC like shit (awful writing. MC should tell her to go to hell after getting his guitar back when she tries to blackmail him with that), even if MC refuses to have sex with her for several occasions, or even is she dumps her after asking her for a date, is just for the plot sake, to involve Sage in Maya's problems, in the party, and other things.
since their friendship begins with the guitar episode I'd say MC didn't feel he was so mistreated.

and MC also has a very marginal role in Sage's choice to help Maya, he is involved only after everything has been done and decided in the usual role of moral support. at the limit it is MC who is forcibly involved in having to accompany simple friends to a meeting of which he could be interested in little or nothing

Sage and MC flirting is for letting open the door of a future relationship between then, because is a porn game, not because it has sense. Again, Sage's acts only make sense if MC and her are involved in a relationship, first "fuck buddies" and friends, then a more serious one.
but that goes for all LIs, they are all in a porn game. but only Sage is the one who has to remind at every opportunity that she is still available (even if she just got dumped). Maya and Bella for example never do it, Jill only once but only under certain very specific conditions (only if she was left for Bella), Josy is the only one we can say does something similar to Sage, but in a much less direct.

according to me it's not a necessity, it's a DPC choice
 
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