No its nothing to do with that, although yeah it is true things were a fuck ton better 20 years ago than now.I'll repeat what I've said before: I love an AVN that's so well written that it generates these kinds of discussions.
On the subject itself: I think there are those who long to return to a time that never existed, when women "knew their place" and were genuinely happy there. One the one hand, AVNs can be a lovely way to enjoy that fantasy; on the other, injecting a certain level of realism (such as making the love interests act like real human beings) can increase the immersion.
Meanwhile, please pass the popcorn.
Imagine a harem where each women is only interested (not in the sexual sense, but the caring one) in the man. In this harem, the women would simply see each other as competition for the MC's attention.I enjoy the harmony of sitting together and eating and them all being his girls. For me their friendship doesn't add to that, but makes it less cosy. Don't enjoy girl friendship dynamics at all. Quite repelling tbh lol. But to be fair I havent seen this specific scene yet, so I may well like it here. But if they would all just be interested in talking to MC I'd surely not find it less cosy.
Maybe you can give an example of what you mean, as I don't really understand it. If they just get along very well and are tied together by the MC, how would that be less cosy than them being friends with each other?
Emotionally dependent, submissive but with their dignity intact, and eager to please, is not a state many women push themselves towards.consent, debasement, challenged authority - all very much disliked. Same with corruption.
A girl emotionally dependent on him. Submission with dignity intact. And a gentle nature that likes to please. Much preferred.![]()
MC goes for days out of his way to escort sarah to and from home. gets up earlier to go to her house. when he gets there, she just commands him in a dismissive tone: "lets go, idiot." and starts to walk.No its nothing to do with that, although yeah it is true things were a fuck ton better 20 years ago than now.
Even if you put Sarah and this stupid weeb baka shit as playful banter, she is still being rude and disrespectful from to Vicky right from the start, it makes us look weak to allow someone who isn't even a friend be rude to our girlfriend, and given Lucy is also our girlfriend she should also not let her friend be rude to Vicky who is also supposed to be Lucys friend.
Yeah fair point, we going out of our way to protect her, what happened to gratitude?MC goes for days out of his way to escort sarah to and from home. gets up earlier to go to her house. when he gets there, she just commands him in a dismissive tone: "lets go, idiot." and starts to walk.
people might not remember these instances. but if they do and are fine with that... holy.
If every dev was half as intelligent as you, the average quality of writing on this site would be twice as good as it currently is.I feel like including bdsm community influence into their relationship cheapens it somehow. It makes the bdsm feel less like a naturally developing dynamic between the MC and the LI, and instead like they're just playing a bit designed by someone else.
She is a pretty unpleasant person at first, and if this was real life then most people probably would ignore her because of it.Yeah fair point, we going out of our way to protect her, what happened to gratitude?
I think the amount of competition depends mostly on how much the girls long for the MC - but gets muted genuinely by either caring for each other, like you said, or by trying to get along and keep it harmonious for the sake and pleasure of MC.Imagine a harem where each women is only interested (not in the sexual sense, but the caring one) in the man. In this harem, the women would simply see each other as competition for the MC's attention.
This is a scenario which breeds rivalry and resentment, which would not be very 'cosy'.
Imagine another harem where there is an underlying relationship between the women, where they want each other to be happy and support each other. In this harem, the women want each other to have a happy relationship with the man. This heavily blunts any amount of competition between the women, even if it is still possible.
This is a scenario which which would be much more 'cosy'.
I hope that at least explains my thought process.
Emotionally dependent, submissive but with their dignity intact, and eager to please, is not a state many women push themselves towards.
Most of the girls are arguably currently like that but only Lilly started that way. The rest had to be, to varying extents, pushed or manipulated into that state.
What I described with Sarah was just the process to get her to that end goal you described.
I agree 100%, you are definetly trading some amount of power in the pursuit of this style of 'cosiness'. I think it entirely comes down to whether you think it's worth the trade, I do and it seems you don't, both of which are perfectly reasonable preferences to have.I think your variant produces more genuine results, and in Cosy Cafe its done pleasantly enough, but it also weakens MCs power potentially.
It all depends on the value you place on her eventual submission, and how much tolerance you have/think the MC should have for disrespect in the meantime.In regards to sarah it seems many see it as a good trade to accept a bit of disrespect to be able to spank her butt in return. But I think thats a bad trade.
If they like it then it is even more humiliating, which is the real punishment in my view, not the physical pain of the blows.But I'm also not too much into spanking - especially not if they actually like it lol. Thats no punishment!![]()
Likewise mate, it's always nice to have a geniune and pleasant interaction.Thx for the pleasant conversation. =)
Was only referring to this:Here are two direct quoted form your post above.
This seems to say that discussion is fine -
The things I commented on are minor things which I prefered different, thats no problem. Its just exchanging views more than anything else.
While you close with this, which more than hints that those who disagree with you - 'we're just exchanging views about minor things... that's no problem' - are giving you passive aggressive replies -
But I'm used to facing passive aggressive replies for not going along with current world agenda in regards to getting girls fit for economic harvesting. Making them more and more like men. Its fine. Hope you have a nice day regardless.
If 'exchanging views about minor things' and agreeing to disagree with you/explaining why = passive aggressive replies, then there is no meaningful discussion.
There is only your monologue and the dismissal of the POV of others as passive aggressive if they are not in line with said monologue.
Finally, I don't think the Cosy Cafe thread is the right forum to lament the changes in gender roles that have occurred since women got the right to vote - but that's me...
Cheers!!![]()
Perhaps another AVN will give you the male centric, women are quiet wall flowers who should be seen and not heard, world view you seem to be espousing - not my thing - but... you do you.
Otherwise your post was a pleasant. I'm happy to harshly discuss views. Mostly referred to F95 in general - and all the different variations of "yOu aRe INseCure" because I like patriarchy.This is how she does this - her words spring from her insecurity, not any disrespect - and the MC understands this and makes allowance for it - he is Not an insecure male.
Some people enjoy helping others. The MC is one of those people, he says himself that he has a bit of a hero complex.MC goes for days out of his way to escort sarah to and from home. gets up earlier to go to her house. when he gets there, she just commands him in a dismissive tone: "lets go, idiot." and starts to walk.
people might not remember these instances. but if they do and are fine with that... holy.
She does show her gratitude, in her own way, keep in mind this is someone who isn't used to affection basically at all, her parents are never there for her, her sisters bully her, Brians group bullies her. She is insecure about her looks, and nervous about being in a situation she has never been in before.Yeah fair point, we going out of our way to protect her, what happened to gratitude?
I don't think thats whats going on. The game makes it abundantly clear what the reasons are for her behaviour. I filled in the blanks in the same way like you did.As someone said upstream, we all bring our own past and feelings into a game. The same events can be interpreted in drastically different ways based on our own experience and how we process things. Sarah is a perfect case in point. When she keeps calling him an idiot instead of thanking him, I filled in the blanks according to my own feelings. The way I filled in those blanks was, "She's frightened and insecure, and I am sufficiently self-confident to let her come around in her own time and her own way, and I will hide how amused I am at her antics." The text, as it were, supports my interpretation--just as it supports other interpretations, including some that are diametrically opposed to mine.