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As opposed to what? The fantasy that every female will fuck anything and everything? Are you saying your kink is better?

You know if the mc fucks all the girls right at the start I would agree that's boring (unless the mc is a sociopath rapist) but usually we the players have to work to get to that point, especially with incest characters breaking down their barriers enough to accept it. The journey to get to that point is the challenge, as long it doesn't follow the predictable "stairway to heaven" trope.
well - our next game will try to focus on a good story and every character having his own background and individuality. It will of course not be a game where every woman is falling for MC by snipping a finger. Also he will face a lot of trouble. And be asured that he will not be a shy insecure douchebag like we had before. Just wait and see. We start early thinking about characters and how they are, before finally wrapping the story around. This time the story is about the characters and not the characters made for the story (something like that). We don't even go full on for now, as there is still DMD to be finished and afterwards SL to get to a good end. But what we have in mind is completely different than before. Someone mentionned fantasy before -> it will be nothing like that though.
 

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As opposed to what? The fantasy that every female will fuck anything and everything? Are you saying your kink is better?

You know if the mc fucks all the girls right at the start I would agree that's boring (unless the mc is a sociopath rapist) but usually we the players have to work to get to that point, especially with incest characters breaking down their barriers enough to accept it. The journey to get to that point is the challenge, as long it doesn't follow the predictable "stairway to heaven" trope.
It's not really a kink, I don't even care/want about proper NTR, aka humiliation of cuck MC. But even that if it gives me an occasion to see a good porn scene between characters I didn't expect to see together, then I'm all for it. It's just deeply sadening to cut any surprise from a game. Especially when it's porn.

Even in your example, I agree that good pacing and writing (not a strong point of Dots games lately) will make the experience bearable for someone like me (40+yo, seen porn since I was 13), like it was more or less in Melody, even if the best scenes where of course the extra scenes to me. But still, even if writing and pacing are good, in the end you know you will fuck everyone, nothing will stand in your way, every story beat will just be filler. Even if well written, still won't impact anything because it's an "Alpha MC fucks everything" type of game. It cuts any story ideas from the devs that wouldn't go toward this goal, any creativity, it becomes the same as blockbuster movies where nobody in the world should be offended by anything, because it needs money from every markets to profit. In the end you watch it and feel nothing, it's just like a 2h40 Playstation 8 cinematic scene. So yeah, it's sad to me.

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Someone mentionned fantasy before -> it will be nothing like that though.
So scifi then ? :D
 
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All I want is for them to start using different facial expressions and use less info-dump monologues.
God SL was such failure regarding this, especially texts, I'm used to limited facial expressions because of DMD and Melody. I stopped playing SL after 4-5 updates. Nowadays I just browse CGs from it and I manage to be disappointed anyways, because it's "oh, MC is fucking a woman" how unusual, "oh he's fucking her in the ass" made me raise an eyebrow, sparked 10% of my interest. "oh that's all for this update" I hope teenagers enjoyed it, I know I didn't.
 
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It's not really a kink, I don't even care/want about proper NTR, aka humiliation of cuck MC. But even that if it gives me an occasion to see a good porn scene between characters I didn't expect to see together, then I'm all for it. It's just deeply sadening to cut any surprise from a game. Especially when it's porn.

Even in your example, I agree that good pacing and writing (not a strong point of Dots games lately) will make the experience bearable for someone like me (40+yo, seen porn since I was 13), like it was more or less in Melody, even if the best scenes where of course the extra scenes to me. But still, even if writing and pacing are good, in the end you know you will fuck everyone, nothing will stand in your way, every story beat will just be filler. Even if well written, still won't impact anything because it's an "Alpha MC fucks everything" type of game. It cuts any story ideas from the devs that wouldn't go toward this goal, any creativity, it becomes the same as blockbuster movies where nobody in the world should be offended by anything, because it needs money from every markets to profit. In the end you watch it and feel nothing, it's just like a 2h40 Playstation 8 cinematic scene. So yeah, it's sad to me.


So scifi then ? :D
Not necessarily depending on the game, sometimes the player can fuck up and close a LIs path forever.
 

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If you don't like SL then why complain about it in the DMD thread and why be mad in the first place?
You realize you can filter for gay if you want to see multiple cocks in a game. :KEK:
1/Because I'm bored waiting for 2 other game updates since ages

2/Your brain in action : "He likes watching gangbangs and orgies --> multiple cocks there --> multiple cocks = gay --> Gay=bad --> you gay ! --> me win argument. Me smart." Impressive.
 

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1/Because I'm bored waiting for 2 other game updates since ages

2/Your brain in action : "He likes watching gangbangs and orgies --> multiple cocks there --> multiple cocks = gay --> Gay=bad --> you gay ! --> me win argument. Me smart." Impressive.
I never said being gay is bad. It isn't. Why would you come to this conclusion?
 

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Because you don't use compliments in a would-be smartass response to someone who likes what you don't like.
IMHO that's exactly what people should do.

If you can't laugh at harem as a harem enjoyer then you have a problem.
If you can't laugh at NTR as a NTR enjoyer then you have a problem.
If you can't laugh at sharing as a sharing enjoyer then you have a problem.
If you can't laugh at incest as a incest enjoyer then you have a problem.

The list goes on and applies to gay porn too. The world isn't black and white.

Sometime leaning back and laughing is the best action one can do.
It's not necessary to be dense and depressed all the time. :D
 

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well - let me put it this way:
1 man - 2 women = 3-some ... all is fine. Man maybe even wants the 2 female to kiss each other.
nothing bad about that.

Now i demand equal rights for all:
1 woman - 2 men - but they have to kiss and please each other - like before the other way around.

How do you feel about that?
So yes - MMF you have to be at least "bi" - or you even may be a cuckold - call it how you like.

This is the reason, why i personally don't like MMF at all - i am neither bi, gay and even less a cuck. I want to enjoy 1 on 1. To be honest that's why i even don't like MFF, but that's a personal thing.

I want to identify myself with a MC - and i just can't identify myself with anyone who gets sexual actions involving any other male at all - so easy
MFF is great for cuddling, not for sleeping though... that gives you numb arms.

But holding two girls you love in your arms and snuggling with then is great. That doesn't even have to be something sexual, but it's nice nonetheless.
 
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MFF is great for cuddling, not for sleeping though... that gives you numb arms.

But holding two girls you love in your arms and snuggling with then is great. That doesn't even have to be something sexual, but it's nice nonetheless.
well - then again: equal rights for all -
a girl having 2 boys to cuddle - you and onother one - have fun
(joke: i hope he snores)
 
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Not convinced. Don't get me wrong tho, anybody likes what he likes and it's not a post on the internet that will make anyone change his mind about his sexual preferences. It would be the same level as Trans advocates saying to straight men that they're transphobe if they don't want to fuck a chick with a dick.
I guess you're lucky if you still enjoy basic M+F scenes. Personnaly I need situations more hardcore than irl when I watch porn, whether it's a game or not. Maybe you'll get bored too in 10-20 years, and then we'll have good games with an "anything can happen" feel, similar to GoT and its "anyone can die" back when it was good.
 

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Not convinced. Don't get me wrong tho, anybody likes what he likes and it's not a post on the internet that will make anyone change his mind. It would be the same level as Trans advocates saying to straight men that they're transphobe if they don't want to fuck a chick with a dick.
I guess you're lucky if you still enjoy basic M+F scenes. Personnaly I need situations more hardcore than irl when I watch porn, whether it's a game or not. Maybe you'll get bored too in 10-20 years, and then we'll have good games with an "anything can happen" feel, similar to GoT and its "anyone can die" back when it was good.
not saying i am just into vanilla - i also like more hardcore - like submission, bdsm, rough sex and so on - just not other men involved in that - and always 1 on 1
 

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It would be the same level as Trans advocates saying to straight men that they're transphobe if they don't want to fuck a chick with a dick.
That happened... :KEK:
No seriously.. look it up.

No but I get you, you need more hardcore stuff to get off. There is no shame in that and there are a lot of devs that make such games.
There are tons of porn too.

I just prefer the games where there is only one dude (MC) involved with an x number of girls.

Happy wanking. :D
 

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That happened... :KEK:
No seriously.. look it up.
I know. :D

But the issue is of course not you 2, but the hundreds of thousands of like-minded Patreon subs forcing the market to be mostly Vanilla. It reduces the variety of games available, because capitalism : devs with enough talent to make good art realise they can make even more money if they catter to the wishes of american Vanilla lovers. So then, with a few exceptions, you're left with either talentless hacks only for less mainstream stuff, or talented people that update very rarely because non Vanilla fans aren't as many, so it can't be the dev's fulltime job.
It's like finding a good movie on Netflix : everything sucks, and you've already seen the good ones.
Anyways I wish the world goes again into a dirty hippie phase, so at least more people will have sex and will need more from porn, because they will be less frustrated by real life. But I guess we'll have to wait after WW3 for this, if there's anyone left :D
 
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