Ren'Py Abandoned Devil In Your Eyes [v0.05.3] [Graphicus Rex]

[Prokopije]

Alright... First I want to say that this is, obviously, my opinion and I am a picky bitch when it comes to games and everyone has different tastes. These two devs have worked their butts off on this game and they deserve more support than they've received. That said, I also would advise everyone to play the new update before they read my spoilered post below...

Since I was excited for the new update I pledged for a month so I could play through it... Decided to start over and, I am sure I've said this before so spoiler tagging...

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Okay, so on to the new update... Which I will also spoiler tag.

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Best of luck guys, this update confirms for me that this isn't the game for me. I'm sure there is an audience for the game, just need regular updates.

Thanks for the "sacrifice". Was curious about this project, but those spoilers contain literally every single thing I dislike in porn games, so good to know not to touch this one.
To dev, good luck with this.

 

[The ArcKnight]

Yeah, I'm torn because I feel like these two devs have done a lot of work and have an interesting premise but then at the same time I am not at all into what they've created in terms of the crime element in the game. The MC, his friends, coworkers, and background interest me but the whole Mr Kelly bit just drags and isn't interesting to me. I'd much rather have all of that be optional, similar to Shadows Over Manston (IIRC) where you can choose to just play the MC and skip the additional criminal intrigue/assassin bit.

Yes!
It sucks because these devs seem like genuinely good guys and I want to like their work like with previous updates but as you've said, the whole Mr. Kelly overemphasis, and the rape is a bit of a dealbreaker for me too.
Mc and the girls are all hella interesting for me but as I've said, I don't care about antagonists who are male, especially when you can do nothing to stop them from doing bad things to the women of the story. But as I've said, I am someone who wants all the girls in a story for MC, so I'm not the target demographic for this.

I still wish the Devs best of luck and hopefully this game gets in front of the eyeballs of people who love that type of stuff.

 

[GraphicusRex]

I do need to point out that I find it weird you'd refer to that one segment as "rape". What was intended was a Dom/sub relationship, and she's both enjoying it and consenting to it. Rape is something very different, and White Sun, if that is what is chasing you off, I'd say it's a non-issue. Additionally, (and this is just semantics here) "Just Deserts" is the correct usage of the phrase; archaic etymology perhaps, but it's not a typo -

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-Coding Guy

 

[The ArcKnight]

I do need to point out that I find it weird you'd refer to that one segment as "rape". What was intended was a Dom/sub relationship, and she's both enjoying it and consenting to it. Rape is something very different, and White Sun, if that is what is chasing you off, I'd say it's a non-issue. Additionally, (and this is just semantics here) "Just Deserts" is the correct usage of the phrase; archaic etymology perhaps, but it's not a typo -

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-Coding Guy

So is having to watch the antagonist fucking the police detective avoidable?
Because as I've said before, I'm not into voyeurism, and would prefer the MC being the only male I have to watch fucking.
If not then I'll have to give this one a pass in its current form. I wish you guys all the luck though.

 

[GraphicusRex]

So is having to watch the antagonist fucking the police detective avoidable?

Yeah, I'm afraid that's unavoidable. We really didn't expect this kind of storytelling to have such a powerful negative impact on the viewer : /

-CG

 

[The ArcKnight]

Yeah, I'm afraid that's unavoidable. We really didn't expect this kind of storytelling to have such a powerful negative impact on the viewer : /

-CG

Fetishes are usually very polarizing, you'll get alot loving it, alot hating it, and some folk in the middle. When in doubt, go for making fetishes optional, then everyone wins.

I personally just don't want to be forced to see any male besides the MC having sex with the women. But I'm just one guy, I'm sure you'll find an audience that loves this kinda stuff.

 

[hatefuldisplay]

I was finally able to get into the latest update. I was starting to feel like the poor kid on the block who didn't get the newest game system for Christmas. Anyway, time for me to plow through my thoughts on this chapter...

1. Aubrey... Well, she is not my favorite character appearance-wise. With that, I love the glare she gives the MC at the coffee shop. Definitely a realistic look that I have received more times than I can recall in reality. The banter also works nicely. Although I like the aspect of her side action, I'm a bit greedy so I have my own self interest running on this scenario as well.

2. Sheena... I do believe or hope there is a reward coming for my great performance at the work place. Still, she is a pretty cool character even if I mainly caught the professional end of her this round.

3. Shannon... I've been told to be less of an asshole. Not sure how to rework that, but I am definitely interested in seeing a little skin from her in the future.

4. Leah... No Leah this episode. I really do hope to see her return in the near future, especially with the new model. Anyone else get that whole 4 Non Blondes/Concrete Blondes kind of vibe from her that fits the character nicely now?

5. Sarah... Oh. The lost love interest of the former love interest might be making an appearance. This definitely opens up some possibilities for future entertainment and digging holes that are difficult to get out of.

6. Rachel is definitely interesting. I'm hopeful for some additional interactions with her in the future.

7. Mac is another excellent character. Please don't botch her or Sheena. So far, they are my favorites. Perhaps not in looks, but in their story lines and personalities. Come to think of it, I am seeing a lot less of the lost puppy characters in this than most other VNs seem to offer.

8. Joyce really offers little interest to me. This is not simply because of her admirer, but in general. Not that the model isn't attractive, I just feel like I can be a bit choosier in options that fit my personal tastes.

9. Renee has some interest to me. Slightly more than Joyce and this might be due to her perceived innocence.

10. Charlene is brutal and somewhat interesting. I do like heavily tattooed women, but some of the ones on this model of questionable in their realism. Still, I like the extensive back story and the fact that she looked smoking in all of the layers of her party outfit. I see a lot of games offer the idea of the hard as ice woman waiting to be melted by the main character and honestly, I don't mind that story arc at all. I wouldn't mind a Charlene and the MC moving into an uneasy and difficult relationship.

11. Sabrina might be one of the most attractive model's introduced so far. I get that tapping that might kill his friendship and place to squat, but I think I'm well on the way to doing that through other choices as it is.

12. I'm a dog. Let's see the MC getting into the mayor's panties at some point. Also, the corrupt detective while we're at it. And don't forget about the woman with blue hair at the coffee shop and Jillian. Definitely some grudge pounding for Jillian. Her attitude demands it.

13. The story so far remains interesting. I enjoyed a fair amount of the banter, even with non-sexual interests. Brutus is fun and it's nice to have a buddy to chat up. Kelly's interactions with Greenley were interesting and amusing at times. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how some of these puzzle pieces fit together.

14. As always, the renders are solid. There are some great animations in this as well. Kudos for that.

15. As for watching other guys have sex with the female characters or females with females, I know some people have issues with such things. Personally, I don't mind. I watch enough porn and I'm not in any of it. I suppose the option to skip might keep some folks on board. As I said, it doesn't bother me either way.

16. I like the makeup use or lack there of at times. I assume it's intentional, but I like seeing some characters are constantly limited at times where as others are fully made up every time you see them. It's pretty realistic. As a Daz3d studio user, I have to admit that it seems like it would just be easier to set base models with the same makeup for every scene.

17. Slow and steady is fine by me. Nothing seems forced here for the most part. I wouldn't mind a few more choices to give it the feel that I'm not just hitting enter or space for minutes on end, but it's not enough to bother me completely.

Final thoughts, keep up the good work. And tell me how to fix things with Shannon unless that's the running joke. Oh well. I never said I wasn't a sucker.

 

[RedPillBlues]

Here's my thing......you guys don't want a different game than what's out there. You want the same thing with a different skin. If that's the case, cool.....but all of these games are exactly the same thing over and over and over again with a few minor detail changes. I've stated over and over again I want it to be a little more on the realistic side and it makes no sense whatsoever to have any of these characters just stand around waiting for the MC to get to them. You guys have your issues and your likes and that's cool....I just have a big issue with how it was handled on here because humans do human things. Doesn't matter there's a spoiler warning on there people are going to click it and see what happened so it negates them checking it out for themselves. Their opinion is formed from that point as it already happened 2 times. It doesn't matter if you state multiple times that it's your opinion, most people are still going to formulate their opinion based on reading an opinion/review. I am totally cool with you not liking it and saying it's not your cup of tea....but instead laying it all out there, why not go "I have my issues and the game isn't for me. If anyone reading this is curious as to why, feel free to message me on here." You know how many people checkout these threads whether they leave a message or not. You know exactly how fickle a lot of these people are. In one breath they tell you they don't like this or that while pretty much telling you they just want something to straight up whack off to. You call them on that then they go 'oh no, I want something different. I want....' That's my biggest beef with the whole thing. I have no issue with the update not being your thing. That's fine and understandable especially since you've said in the past certain things you like and you don't. I just do not like how it was handled cause it was a big FU to Codeguy and I and pretty much diminished all the time and effort we put into this. It literally took the wind out of my sails and I told Codeguy that's that. I'm not sure if this is the end of this project or not. It feels like any little thing we have to explain.

I'm guessing because the update wasn't your thing and your mind may have been in a negative space and maybe that's why you jumped to rape. It's not at all and thanks because you throw that allegation out there and we have to defend the game that it eliminates or ruins part of a storyline I was working up to (and funny cause there was an earlier commenter who had guessed correctly to where I was going with Det. Harris, so yeah rape might have been a little bit of a stretch there, man).

Again, people like what they do and not what they don't....totally cool....and I know it seems like I'm being a bit of an a**hole right, but I also use this as a creative outlet for myself as well as I want a little more from my games. Whether it's in this format or a Triple A game. I also don't want to create the same old bullsh*t that's out there. Yeah...cause most of those stories or plots make a whole lot of sense. I appreciate you at least giving it a shot and for being supportive on here to both Codeguy and I. I just don't think it was cool how it was done.

And on a different not (cause I know I'm probably going to get a lot of flak for speaking my mind so why not), if people out there read this and are just trolls in life, do us a favor and just pass the game by. It's a huge a**hole move to download a game that you got for FREE cause you didn't want to pay the few bucks for it and then go out of your way to write a belittling review. You didn't like it, that's fine. To go out of your way to come back to the site and to this thread and post a review is just being a troll. All you had to do was delete the file off your computer and never come to this thread again. Real a**hole move.

ReturnofPoncho
(and just in case, that final paragraph is not meant for anyone who has posted on this thread)

So lets sum this up

-Don't discuss things that literally take place in the game because people might read what you said
-We're not trying to make the same old bullshit thats already out there, despite not doing anything thats very out of the norm
-Also you're not allowed to leave a negative review because reasons

Wow, very cool.

Where am I?

 

[hatefuldisplay]

I'm not sure if this is the end of this project or not. It feels like any little thing we have to explain.

Personally, I hope not. If it is, I hope you don't give up the game idea entirely because I enjoy your style.

.....but all of these games are exactly the same thing over and over and over again with a few minor detail changes.

True to some extent. There are a great number of similar games out there at this time. I think that's why Depraved Awakenings had the scene making fun of them when the protagonist was running through a clothing store.

Thanks for the "sacrifice". Was curious about this project, but those spoilers contain literally every single thing I dislike in porn games, so good to know not to touch this one.

Meh. Why not give it a shot and see for yourself? Although I tend to fall in line with MrFriendly on games, I'm still into this one and hate to see it die out.

 

[The ArcKnight]

Here's my thing......you guys don't want a different game than what's out there. You want the same thing with a different skin. If that's the case, cool.....but all of these games are exactly the same thing over and over and over again with a few minor detail changes. I've stated over and over again I want it to be a little more on the realistic side and it makes no sense whatsoever to have any of these characters just stand around waiting for the MC to get to them. You guys have your issues and your likes and that's cool....I just have a big issue with how it was handled on here because humans do human things. Doesn't matter there's a spoiler warning on there people are going to click it and see what happened so it negates them checking it out for themselves. Their opinion is formed from that point as it already happened 2 times. It doesn't matter if you state multiple times that it's your opinion, most people are still going to formulate their opinion based on reading an opinion/review. I am totally cool with you not liking it and saying it's not your cup of tea....but instead laying it all out there, why not go "I have my issues and the game isn't for me. If anyone reading this is curious as to why, feel free to message me on here." You know how many people checkout these threads whether they leave a message or not. You know exactly how fickle a lot of these people are. In one breath they tell you they don't like this or that while pretty much telling you they just want something to straight up whack off to. You call them on that then they go 'oh no, I want something different. I want....' That's my biggest beef with the whole thing. I have no issue with the update not being your thing. That's fine and understandable especially since you've said in the past certain things you like and you don't. I just do not like how it was handled cause it was a big FU to Codeguy and I and pretty much diminished all the time and effort we put into this. It literally took the wind out of my sails and I told Codeguy that's that. I'm not sure if this is the end of this project or not. It feels like any little thing we have to explain.

I'm guessing because the update wasn't your thing and your mind may have been in a negative space and maybe that's why you jumped to rape. It's not at all and thanks because you throw that allegation out there and we have to defend the game that it eliminates or ruins part of a storyline I was working up to (and funny cause there was an earlier commenter who had guessed correctly to where I was going with Det. Harris, so yeah rape might have been a little bit of a stretch there, man).

Again, people like what they do and not what they don't....totally cool....and I know it seems like I'm being a bit of an a**hole right, but I also use this as a creative outlet for myself as well as I want a little more from my games. Whether it's in this format or a Triple A game. I also don't want to create the same old bullsh*t that's out there. Yeah...cause most of those stories or plots make a whole lot of sense. I appreciate you at least giving it a shot and for being supportive on here to both Codeguy and I. I just don't think it was cool how it was done.

And on a different not (cause I know I'm probably going to get a lot of flak for speaking my mind so why not), if people out there read this and are just trolls in life, do us a favor and just pass the game by. It's a huge a**hole move to download a game that you got for FREE cause you didn't want to pay the few bucks for it and then go out of your way to write a belittling review. You didn't like it, that's fine. To go out of your way to come back to the site and to this thread and post a review is just being a troll. All you had to do was delete the file off your computer and never come to this thread again. Real a**hole move.

ReturnofPoncho
(and just in case, that final paragraph is not meant for anyone who has posted on this thread)

I would say, take a step back, breathe and think.

I get you guys might be frustrated at the last couple posts.
But really look at what's being said, you got one person's point of view on your update. Not positive but at least a bit constructive on what worked, and what didn't and wishing you luck finding the right audience.

Then you had another asking questions about said player's experience and the story beats and deciding those were kinda hard limits for them and what they like. That's kinda what this forum is for, to ask questions about a game, of both players and devs, and see if they are interested enough to play it themselves.
I feel like Friendly has been more then polite and I hope I have been as well.

I personally would of played the update myself and formed my own opinion, but its not on here yet. I will eventually play it myself, but I know what I like, and what I dislike. I love your characters, but I dislike being forced to watch others fuck though, so well see how my opinion changes after I play the update. I will always give my honest opinion on this forum though, love or hate. I am not here to troll, but provide feedback, hopefully useful feedback, but I'm just one data point of many.

In the end, myself and Friendly are only 2 players out of a bunch. Wait til your update hits here and I'm sure you'll get a much wider opinion on the Update. After that, once you've got all your feedback, you can find out what worked and what didn't for your audience but its far too soon to let the opinion of 2 players kill your enthusiasm for your project. So keep at it.

 

[Prokopije]

Meh. Why not give it a shot and see for yourself? Although I tend to fall in line with MrFriendly on games, I'm still into this one and hate to see it die out.

I wanted to try, but after I read what was said about it - just no. First of all, I want to have full authonomy over MC's decisions, which means - no forced girls or any sex content upon MC. Want to be able to fully reject any female NPC (and sexual behaviour towards her) I eventually dislike. From what I've gathered - that is not possible with this game.
Second, bi-girls or any kind of girl on girl "action", I dislike, not interested in them at all. Seems there plenty of those.
Third, those forced scenes where MC is not present... Don't mind them by default, but if I find models (male or female) unappealing in terms of their appearance - I absolutely don't want to watch them having sex. So, Mr. Kelly and all those stuff (present and future)... Don't want to see that. If it needs to happens, make it happens "behind scenes". Give skip option or whatever...
With those 3 major turn offs, this is definitely not for me. I know that even without trying it for myself.
I'm sure there are folks who likes or don't mind all those stuff, so... I have no doubt game will find audience it's intended for, just need to be persistent and not give up.

 

[hatefuldisplay]

I wanted to try, but after I read what was said about it - just no. First of all, I want to have full authonomy over MC's decisions, which means - no forced girls or any sex content upon MC. Want to be able to fully reject any female NPC (and sexual behaviour towards her) I eventually dislike. From what I've gathered - that is not possible with this game.
Second, bi-girls or any kind of girl on girl "action", I dislike, not interested in them at all. Seems there plenty of those.
Third, those forced scenes where MC is not present... Don't mind them by default, but if I find models (male or female) unappealing in terms of their appearance - I absolutely don't want to watch them having sex. So, Mr. Kelly and all those stuff (present and future)... Don't want to see that. If it needs to happens, make it happens "behind scenes". Give skip option or whatever...
With those 3 major turn offs, this is definitely not for me. I know that even without trying it for myself.
I'm sure there are folks who likes or don't mind all those stuff, so... I have no doubt game will find audience it's intended for, just need to be persistent and not give up.

Ahh. Fair enough. I dodged a couple sexual encounters on my playthroughs, but don't know if you can avoid them all... I'm not sure about the girl-girl part being avoidable because I didn't try to skip past it, but I do see why the other sex scenes could push you away from the game.

 

[GraphicusRex]

Just a heads up, we're taking the advice listed earlier of backing off for a breather to consider our options and what kind of game we actually want to make here. We'll probably be radio silent for a bit as we work things out, but it shouldn't be too long.

-Coding Guy

 

[GraphicusRex]

Also, considering how this all got kind of weird, we've decided to drop the latest version on F95 (PC, Linux, and Mac only. No Android version currently exists). The links should update just as soon as the admins here get around to handling the latest ticket.

-CG

 

[Deleted member 1399911]

Look at it this way...
No consent she's getting raped..
Consent it can be viewed as NTR if the girl is LI..
Consent without the girl being an LI, it's voyeurism if your forced to watch it.

Edit: Keep in mind this is just from reading the thread a bit, haven't played, but since I don't see NTR tag with that Rape tag, I'll probably check it out.

 

[Darksyde6661]

It would of saved me time if you had added the Point & Click or Sandbox Tags.
Then i would of not downloaded it and waisted my time on this shyte.

 

[Avaron1974]

Almost feel like I have a repeat button for this comment now....

Devs, you need to make the game you want to make and stop basing decisions around a forum. For little things, sure, for story content and characters that's all on you and most of us are here to see what you lot can make.

You aren't going to please everyone, it's impossible.

If you want normal human interactions in a game which means other characters having sex then you will lose certain people, some of them will complain about it, that can't be helped.

It's the nature of things. Some of us like to see believable worlds with other characters that have lives and others like for the MC to be the only one having sex and play out a fantasy.

If a scene is set for something long term then you will find people that don't get it, those storylines need time to build but dropping it all at the first sign of backlash isn't going to get you anywhere.

 

[Deleted member 1399911]

Almost feel like I have a repeat button for this comment now....

Devs, you need to make the game you want to make and stop basing decisions around a forum. For little things, sure, for story content and characters that's all on you and most of us are here to see what you lot can make.

You aren't going to please everyone, it's impossible.

If you want normal human interactions in a game which means other characters having sex then you will lose certain people, some of them will complain about it, that can't be helped.

It's the nature of things. Some of us like to see believable worlds with other characters that have lives and others like for the MC to be the only one having sex and play out a fantasy.

If a scene is set for something long term then you will find people that don't get it, those storylines need time to build but dropping it all at the first sign of backlash isn't going to get you anywhere.

Not saying a dev should change their story for people, I'm fine with a girl getting raped..

But I've not played the game yet anyway, so not sure with this girl is a Love Interest or not.

And some comments seem to think she gave consent and it's not rape, so want that cleared up before downloading.

 

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[Avaron1974]

Not saying a dev should change their story for people, I'm fine with a girl getting raped..

But I've not played the game yet anyway, so not sure with this girl is a Love Interest or not.

And some comments seem to think she gave consent and it's not rape, so want that cleared up before downloading.

She isn't being raped. She kinda screams out "i'm your slut" to the guy which is the opposite of rape i'd say.

She's not a love interest either, she has no score sheet like the other girls.