VN Ren'Py Abandoned Ecchi Sensei [Day 22-23 Final] [BlueCat]

[a1fox3]

We don't know yet. The biggest suspect is Matsu himself in some kind of rape blackout, that Hiroko is keeping quiet about to so as to save him from the guilt. There is also Matsu or Hiroko's fathers, but BlueCat has been pretty adamant about not including any NTR in the game, so I find anyone but Matsu unlikely.

Its not ntr when it was in the past outside of the game, dreams of the past outside of the game does not count towards ntr.

 

[bigjoe1988]

week 1 what is the door code in your house

 

[mastergig30]

hi sorry i have a question about the week 1 patch is it the same as all patches should i overwrite the base game files with the patch files? I wonder why this is the first time I see a patch with a renpy executable

 

[layer1avn]

week 1 what is the door code in your house

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[rostabu]

I'm begining to wonder, Bluecat said he wanted the longest adult game in history, does that mean in play time or wait time?

 

[RandoCard3]

Its not ntr when it was in the past outside of the game, dreams of the past outside of the game does not count towards ntr.

I'm not knowledgeable on the subject to know if that's how it works, but that seems like a silly distinction. Consider how many people get put off by it in this forum, I don't think many people follow that logic.

Edit: Question: Does entering the code to the door on Day 3 or whenever actually lead to any difference when the plot takes you in there later, or is it just a weird teaser?

 

[rostabu]

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[a1fox3]

I'm not knowledgeable on the subject to know if that's how it works, but that seems like a silly distinction. Consider how many people get put off by it in this forum, I don't think many people follow that logic.

Edit: Question: Does entering the code to the door on Day 3 or whenever actually lead to any difference when the plot takes you in there later, or is it just a weird teaser?

Yes some players get really butt hurt even if the MC never even knew the girl that is having sex with her boyfriend even if it was 10 years before MC even knew of the girl.

All we can do is go by the tag rules.

NTR [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
(( The main word here is "having" present tense.))

((A lot of players see ntr and they think that the girls should never had a boyfriend having sex with each other ever in there life.))
((For these players they see "having"(present tense) as "had"(past tense) when it comes to ntr.))

 

[layer1avn]

Edit: Question: Does entering the code to the door on Day 3 or whenever actually lead to any difference when the plot takes you in there later, or is it just a weird teaser?

If day 3 is the very first time you can enter the code, you just get a little message from BlueCat. Sort of an easter egg, I guess.

 

[Kulman]

I see the parasites aren't happy, unless they can piss in the punch bowl.

I supported Bluecat at the beginning for about 40 euro and I am also unhappy. Do I have to have paid money to have my opinion matter?

What a shitty reasoning.

 

[RandoCard3]

Yes some players get really butt hurt even if the MC never even knew the girl that is having sex with her boyfriend even if it was 10 years before MC even knew of the girl.

All we can do is go by the tag rules.

NTR [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
(( The main word here is "having" present tense.))

((A lot of players see ntr and they think that the girls should never had a boyfriend having sex with each other ever in there life.))
((For these players they see "having"(present tense) as "had"(past tense) when it comes to ntr.))

Sure, it definitely gets out of hand with some people, but that doesn't really apply here. This isn't some girl who dated someone else once before the the MC turned. This is the guys wife, who was he dating her when it happened. And the long term consequences are still part of the story, in Mao.

If it happened to literally any other girl from the flashbacks, I'd agree that it doesn't qualify, but Hiroko at the very least fits into a grey area, due to her relationship with Matsu, and the existence of Mao.

This sites definition also doesn't matter, as they aren't the ones decided what goes into this game. When BlueCat says "no NTR" he's using his own definition, accurate or not.

Regardless of any definition though, as that's not really what we were talking about, it touches the subject in a close enough way, so I don't think anyone but Matus can be her dad.

 

[a1fox3]

Sure, it definitely gets out of hand with some people, but that doesn't really apply here. This isn't some girl who dated someone else once before the the MC turned. This is the guys wife, who was he dating her when it happened. And the long term consequences are still part of the story, in Mao.

If it happened to literally any other girl from the flashbacks, I'd agree that it doesn't qualify, but Hiroko at the very least fits into a grey area, due to her relationship with Matsu, and the existence of Mao.

This sites definition also doesn't matter, as they aren't the ones decided what goes into this game. When BlueCat says "no NTR" he's using his own definition, accurate or not.

Regardless of any definition though, as that's not really what we were talking about, it touches the subject in a close enough way, so I don't think anyone but Matus can be her dad.

I thought at the time she got pregnant MC and her were not together and broke up with each other.
((Hopefully the game will come back and since I have forgotten most of it will have to replay the whole game again.))
But I do not hold very much hope to that.

But that was not the convo we were having about ntr.
NTR should only be applied to actual game play and not dream stuff anyway.

 

[RandoCard3]

I thought at the time she got pregnant MC and her were not together and broke up with each other.
((Hopefully the game will come back and since I have forgotten most of it will have to replay the whole game again.))
But I do not hold very much hope to that.

But that was not the convo we were having about ntr.
NTR should only be applied to actual game play and not dream stuff anyway.

If the flashbacks were just dream sequences, then sure, but they're not. They actually happened, and have a massive impact on the present plotline. Mao is still, as far as we know, a cuck and/or rape baby, and a bunch of characters from the flashback sequences are turning up, like the mother, and sister. They're released as specials, but they're important parts of the plot. It's silly to arbitrarily not apply appropriate tags, just because they canonically take place before the beginning of the main plot. Especially when it's such an important plot point.

Regardless, I don't really have any more interest in debating what is and isn't NTR. I was just explaining why I think one reveal about Mao's father is more likely than the others.

 

[401Grem]

I supported Bluecat at the beginning for about 40 euro and I am also unhappy. Do I have to have paid money to have my opinion matter?

What a shitty reasoning.

Why should your opinion matter to the dev, if you're not a supporter?

 

[jamdan]

Why should your opinion matter to the dev, if you're not a supporter?

Technically, every supporter is a former non-supporter. Devs having bad relations with the fans (paid or not) will cause damage to their reputation.

 

[Rangina]

Technically, every supporter is a former non-supporter. Devs having bad relations with the fans (paid or not) will cause damage to their reputation.

You having to explain it to him is enough reason to don't waste your time for him. Be cool and leave the high class in their bathroom throne.
I were a non-supporter, then a supporter, and a former-supporter as you, now. Devs, obviously should care about why they gain less money now.

 

[Zarathos4]

Why should your opinion matter to the dev, if you're not a supporter?

You clearly don't know how the world works. Reviews are important whether you're the one paying or not.

Peeps pay for a game. Try the game out, love the game. Dev keeps his promises. Peeps recommend the game. Dev listens to fans. More players come. Potential more supporters. There's always going to be the ones who "leech" and the ones who "finance" projects. But game is getting good reviews from both sides of the coin. This is a good thing.

Something then happens. Either real life gets in the way. Dev gets lazy. loses interest but doesn't have the heart to man up and tell peeps that. (looking at certain milfy guy)...whatever the case my be...Development slips. Empty promises are made. Even when content is produced its very limit or takes a whole year to put out. (looking at certain deer...). Quality slips. When that happens, the paying ones get upset because well they're shelling out real money in return getting nothing. But even the "parasites" as some call them in this thread also get upset. Reviews start to slip. Some become neutral and understanding. Some go straight to bad. Or start out understanding and then bad. Warnings pop up to stay away, dont support the dev. They're just scamming. The devs revenue starts to slip.

Doing that hurts the dev, not only one this game, but potentially any other project they start. As they gain negative reputation among the community. (looking at a certain Milfy guy...) Or you can take you're suggested route and say your not paying why should I care, and basically say fuck you to everyone and turn into a scam artist (again looking at certain deer).

Product reviews can make or break products. It is important to listen to what peeps (paying or not) are saying about your shit especially when you rely on your shit to support your life and/or future/current projects. If you ruin your reputation you'll have trouble getting your desired support later.

Now if you really didn't care about the money and released everything completely free and truly had the money is a bonus attitude. Then sure by all means. Why should they care what anyone says. Shit is free, so fuck all you unhappy folks. But that's almost never the case.

 

[Macar]

We don't know yet. The biggest suspect is Matsu himself in some kind of rape blackout, that Hiroko is keeping quiet about to so as to save him from the guilt. There is also Matsu or Hiroko's fathers, but BlueCat has been pretty adamant about not including any NTR in the game, so I find anyone but Matsu unlikely.

I honestly hope Matsu isn't the father. I know people get really butt hurt about NTR, but plot-wise it would seem really cheap. It would just seem really dumb for them to keep that a secret considering him not being the father is what created this rift between him and Mao. The mother and Matsu both know Matsu has a dark side, so there really isn't any reason to keep the fact that he raped her a secret. They can keep the rape part a secret from Mao, but I honestly think everyone would be a lot happier to know that Matsu is Mao's father.

 

[FanOfEcchiSensei]

NTR [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
(( The main word here is "having" present tense.))

((A lot of players see ntr and they think that the girls should never had a boyfriend having sex with each other ever in there life.))
((For these players they see "having"(present tense) as "had"(past tense) when it comes to ntr.))

To be fair, NTR is one of the most butchered terms by now and nobody actually understands the meaning of it anymore. Very strictly speaking, NTR encompasses more than just netorare, also netori, netorase, etc, and netorare in general is ANY sort of cheating.

 

[Virulenz]

Its not ntr when it was in the past outside of the game, dreams of the past outside of the game does not count towards ntr.

That may be partially correct for most games, but remember the past time episodes, we WILL see it at some point...if the game ever comes back to life, right now its only a zombie, slowly rotting but still running around...