VN Ren'Py Abandoned Ecchi Sensei [Day 22-23 Final] [BlueCat]

a1fox3 · Dec 25, 2021

Skummy Ecchi said:
Bear in mind while reading this, he wrote it originally in german, then had it translated, then I did a buncha proofreading to sound more like normal english lol But here it be, I just didn't wanna post before it was on patreon:

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That's all from me, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! I'm tired as fuck, as I have been celebrating, and I am SO happy this god damn season is over and I'm spending time with family. With all best regards, I will be back on after Christmas be over, and I got me a cool ass deluxe record player for Christmas

Stay Merry, Stay Ecchi!

~Skummy Out

I hope it comes because I really loved the story but will keep my hopes down to a min on this.

tohot2pimp · Dec 25, 2021

Skummy Ecchi said:
Bear in mind while reading this, he wrote it originally in german, then had it translated, then I did a buncha proofreading to sound more like normal english lol But here it be, I just didn't wanna post before it was on patreon:

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That's all from me, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! I'm tired as fuck, as I have been celebrating, and I am SO happy this god damn season is over and I'm spending time with family. With all best regards, I will be back on after Christmas be over, and I got me a cool ass deluxe record player for Christmas

Stay Merry, Stay Ecchi!

~Skummy Out

Thanks for posting the update

RandoCard3 · Dec 25, 2021

Thanks for sharing Skummy.

That says they're not making Christmas, but do they mean they're not making the new years deadline? Does this mean they're going with this mysterious Plan B?

Sg2211 · Dec 25, 2021

I will be honest..i am disappointed..Although i get that i shouldn't expect much but i really do love this game.Here's to hoping it comes out soon.Cheers!!
Merry Christmas to blue, his team and the echhi sensei community..

headhunter32 · Dec 25, 2021

Surprised no not add all sad 1000%.

Dukez · Dec 25, 2021

Whole lot of words to also avoid saying when it's actually coming. The gitlab updates don't mean much when you can have a lot of small changes that don't actually contribute much overall in getting it completed, seems like a copout mention 'the last few days' what about all the time prior to that?

Mentioning there won't be another merge for an super long time if at all is good, like to see that for sure but that's not the current issue. I'm still extremely doubtful on their logic behind core renpy code needing editing, and even more so on how this may lead to never needing merges again? - If you don't need it, why don't you know that? Why wouldn't you also mention never needing merges prior to this? Bluecat sounds like he doesn't really know what his talking about here.

But that's all very into the future distance looking, how do we still not know when the merge is going to be completed? What about the other plan when it's not done by the end of the year? I guess in the end, he has until new year's to update us again otherwise I'll take Bluecat by their actions - someone who says things and doesn't intend on living up to them.

Nikeee · Dec 25, 2021

They really are writing Renpy2 when you read them. It's hilarious when you think about it.

txhp23 · Dec 25, 2021

Good, I'm glad they're moving forward with Month 1, despite it not being completed yet. Though, I would MUCH rather have longer time between updates and have full weeks released at once. Downloading 1-2 days at time is such a pain.

AnimeKing314 · Dec 25, 2021

First want to say, appreciate the update skummy.

DukeZM said:
Whole lot of words to also avoid saying when it's actually coming. The gitlab updates don't mean much when you can have a lot of small changes that don't actually contribute much overall in getting it completed, seems like a copout mention 'the last few days' what about all the time prior to that?

Mentioning there won't be another merge for an super long time if at all is good, like to see that for sure but that's not the current issue. I'm still extremely doubtful on their logic behind core renpy code needing editing, and even more so on how this may lead to never needing merges again? - If you don't need it, why don't you know that? Why wouldn't you also mention never needing merges prior to this? Bluecat sounds like he doesn't really know what his talking about here.

But that's all very into the future distance looking, how do we still not know when the merge is going to be completed? What about the other plan when it's not done by the end of the year? I guess in the end, he has until new year's to update us again otherwise I'll take Bluecat by their actions - someone who says things and doesn't intend on living up to them.

I'm actually quite sure that BC doesn't know what he's talking about here. IIRC BC isn't a coder (or at least not a good one) so he's probably just a messenger at this point like skummy is and is just repeating what latecomer tells him. The whole "editing the core ren'py code" is likely complete bullshit first because there's not a chance in hell that the coders on this project could actually handle that without fucking everything up and second because the functionality they want is already built into ren'py as evidenced by several other projects already having the functionality.

The nice part is that the wording of the post makes it seem like they won't have to rely on that plan b given that it wasn't mentioned in the post and they're making it sound like most of the hard work is finally finished. Would love to actually be able to see those gitlab notifications though to see what they are actually doing.

Banish · Dec 25, 2021

Honestly that's a lot of words (BC update) and nothing really specific. I don't think anyone at this point expect a timeline, but still something a bit better than a TBA (to be announced).

Smarmint · Dec 25, 2021

Skummy Ecchi said:
There won't be a big merge for an extraordinarily long time after Month 1 is complete, so we will no longer run the risk of a delay. No, seriously, the next big merge will probably not come, if it comes at all, until Month 6. Maybe we will just scrap that idea, and the next merge of all Ecchi Sensei game files will not take place until Day 365 is completed.
Thanks to some new achievements in editing the Ren'Py core code, we may have the option to never worry about merges again. I believe that is a great relief for both the dev team and all of you, our lovely patrons.

In any case, this is what is going to happen after Month 1: We'll be rolling out one update after the other, and of course there will be Specials again. Some, if not all of them, will also be integrated into the main game somehow. (For example: dream sequences, pastime stories, etc.)

Thanks, Skummy, for posting it.

So, this status update is all extremely vague and talks about merge number 2 sometime in the distant future, which nobody asked about or cares about, which is odd since everybody wants to hear about the status of the first merge, but let me see if I get this right.

To summarize, even though the deadline will be missed, Bluecat is still having Latecomer work on the merge, and it will be complete at some indefinite time in the future, with no month targets or deadline at all for either the merge itself or actual new content. Basically, a repeat of exactly what we heard December 2020, one year ago.

Am I getting all that right?

layer1avn · Dec 25, 2021

Is this 'merge' similar to the tech update in Summertime Saga, that will help streamline changes and additions to the game, asset sharing and so on? (Plus combining the first three weeks.) I'm inferring that such a thing would allow up to six months of content before hitting some kind of hard limit in the game engine.

There are hundreds of pages in this thread I haven't read yet, but that's the most I can gather so far. I assume there's more paywalled info on patreon aside from a couple of free posts I've seen links to.

Nikeee · Dec 25, 2021

Smarmint said:
Thanks, Skummy, for posting it.

So, this status update is all extremely vague and talks about merge number 2 sometime in the distant future, which nobody asked about or cares about, which is odd since everybody wants to hear about the status of the first merge, but let me see if I get this right.

To summarize, even though the deadline will be missed, Bluecat is still having Latecomer work on the merge, and it will be complete at some indefinite time in the future, with no month targets or deadline at all for either the merge itself or actual new content. Basically, a repeat of exactly what we heard December 2020, one year ago.

Am I getting all that right?

No, last year he said they would release the alpha before the end of the month.

Brazilian Engrish · Dec 25, 2021

Expectations? We live for it! Surprises? Zero. I am vaccinated against this scammer. May the blue cat return to milking the patreon cows.

Jay82 · Dec 25, 2021

Brazilian Engrish said:
Expectations? We live for it! Surprises? Zero. I am vaccinated against this scammer. May the blue cat return to milking the patreon cows.

And still you're here following this thread like the rest of us. Hope you didn't get scammed out of any money, because otherwise you wouldn't have been scammed. Technically speaking.

baloneysammich · Dec 26, 2021

jamdan said:
This entire situation was easily avoided too, there is really no reason to merge the game.

a1fox3 said:
Trying to combine the whole game in 1 download has proven to be a great failure.

I don't understand why it's not clear by now that the merge isn't really the issue, but the rework/redesign.

I have little enough faith in BC&Co anymore, but I'm certain that if all they had set out to do was merge this situation wouldn't have arisen... until a little later anyway, because the rework is absolutely necessary IMO (based on inspection of the code and the save files).

Skummy Ecchi · Dec 26, 2021

Smarmint said:
Thanks, Skummy, for posting it.

So, this status update is all extremely vague and talks about merge number 2 sometime in the distant future, which nobody asked about or cares about, which is odd since everybody wants to hear about the status of the first merge, but let me see if I get this right.

To summarize, even though the deadline will be missed, Bluecat is still having Latecomer work on the merge, and it will be complete at some indefinite time in the future, with no month targets or deadline at all for either the merge itself or actual new content. Basically, a repeat of exactly what we heard December 2020, one year ago.

Am I getting all that right?

I am not sure if they will miss the by New Years deadline, its just that he didn't hit christmas like he hoped he could. Sorry that I don't have more but it's the holidays, and fuck if I'm on my A game right now. Figured I'd come check up on things sooner than I said I would, but yeah I will probably do some clarifications later on if everyone is chill with that? Probs sometime within next week I'll try to get a clearer update of shit.

RandoCard3 · Dec 26, 2021

Skummy Ecchi said:
I am not sure if they will miss the by New Years deadline, its just that he didn't hit christmas like he hoped he could. Sorry that I don't have more but it's the holidays, and fuck if I'm on my A game right now. Figured I'd come check up on things sooner than I said I would, but yeah I will probably do some clarifications later on if everyone is chill with that? Probs sometime within next week I'll try to get a clearer update of shit.

Much appreciated.

Armnorn · Dec 26, 2021

I do appreciate the update
But going by the gitlab notification stuff on the Discord I think we will have to wait for a while yet on any release.

The last gitlab update was on the 19th. Which included two progress summaries on "Rework decision variables" and "Implement progress variables" both of which are currently on Day 3 out of 21. A previous mention of "Rework decision variables" was on the 8th of November. When it was on Day 2 out 21. I really hope the game gets back on it's feet because I used to support the game as well. But looking at the progress I feel like I will be back here at the same time next year wondering if month 1 will be out that year or not.

Still thanks for getting us the updates Skummy

EDIT: I will mention that without access to the git repository all I mentioned is guesswork and that the progress could be a lot further along than it looks like

RPDL · Dec 26, 2021

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