I'm also a fellow german fan and have to say, LC's translation is crap. He translated word for word, one thing that also german english teachers don't approve. Most basic mistake. The MTL is WAY better and is as close to the german text as it can be to make sense. Besides that, the german original isn't great either, nobody speaks like that. Proofreaders for both languages are definitly needed. And I saw a ton of posts of willing people to help with that. Props to you helpful guys!! BC should get out of his own little world and make contact to those people. Preferabel without setting deadlines, because they would make it probably for free.
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I only played a few scenes in German and my thoughts were that Bluecat is either not a native German speaker himself or he is an old man.
He's an Austrian so I mean, he's certainly a native speaker that just talks in a funny way I guess, anyone who would like to help with german proofreading for the love of everything just reach out to Bluecat and express that shit to him, he'll probably be happy to have you come along and work over his stuff, especially since he doesn't want to pay for one if people are gonna just offer to do it lol
I mean I can proofread and I will absolutely do it for free, but if I'm proofreading english from incoherent german, I'm proofreading with bad sources. Granted, all the previous days had a bevy of germans proofreading so it reads a lot cleaner even with being a word to word translation. But yeah, reach out to Bluecat if you are a german fan willing to help out, I'm almost certain your help will be appreciated as this was a topic of discussion some time ago.
Also yes, I'm letting know Bluecat about your all's feedback, he seems generally positive and at the very least its helping my case so there's that.
This has been a nightmare, and for fuck sakes I hope this is the god damn end of it.
I mean I can proofread and I will absolutely do it for free, but if I'm proofreading english from incoherent german, I'm proofreading with bad sources. Granted, all the previous days had a bevy of germans proofreading so it reads a lot cleaner even with being a word to word translation. But yeah, reach out to Bluecat if you are a german fan willing to help out, I'm almost certain your help will be appreciated as this was a topic of discussion some time ago.
Also yes, I'm letting know Bluecat about your all's feedback, he seems generally positive and at the very least its helping my case so there's that.
This has been a nightmare, and for fuck sakes I hope this is the god damn end of it.That's even worse than what I thought.
Proofreading the German version of the script
, I'm a dyslexic german that always had better grades in English than in German so I think I pass on that.
baloneysammich
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I know BC has his idiosyncrasies, but does he not grok that at this point, a questionable translation is much less bad than further delays? I mean, he doesn't owe us pirates anything, but for fucks sake he should be putting more weight on catering to his patrons than his personal hangups.
Hence why he posted it to everyone and wanted their feedback before moving on, he's now been met with near universal approvals of the idea and it should get him over his hangups and get things moving....I hope.
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I really hope so also Hubris can be a double edged sword, either raising talent to great heights or pummeling it into oblivion.
Also, ‘Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.’ so let's see if Bluecat learns from this.
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The Empire State building: Year it started being built 1930. Time to completion, 1 year 45 days.
The aircraft carrier USS Yorktown(the one that replaced the one sunk at Midway) Year it started being built 1941. Time to completion, 16 and a half months.
Super oil tankers: 9-15 months to completion.
747 jumbo jet: 43 days to completion.
A 57 storey skyscraper in China: 19 days to completion.
Merging already existing content together: 21 months and counting...
There you go kids. Wanna be a programmer? Quit now and become an engineer. Its quicker.
The aircraft carrier USS Yorktown(the one that replaced the one sunk at Midway) Year it started being built 1941. Time to completion, 16 and a half months.
Super oil tankers: 9-15 months to completion.
747 jumbo jet: 43 days to completion.
A 57 storey skyscraper in China: 19 days to completion.
Merging already existing content together: 21 months and counting...
There you go kids. Wanna be a programmer? Quit now and become an engineer. Its quicker.
Wolfen5
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That's kinda unfair. Those projects had vision, competence, planning and hard work. This one has...good PR?
I wouldn't call it good PR...
i think skymmy is doin ghte best he can with what info he gets from blue cat and his crew
Wolfen5
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You really shouldn't be hard on yourself. If you Goggle "We are professional manipulators" you should find an article from the University of South Carolina from a Dr. Shannon Bowen, who researches and teaches PR ethics at the School of Journalism and Mass Communications that claims PR reps (in anonymity) say that they lie and manipulate professionally.
Honesty and integrity may be the minority but perseverance and time will tell. Truth always invariably comes out.
Not only that, teams of thousands of employees working potentially around the clock every day for that time period.
I'm self deprecating, I think its breeds humility if you break yourself down and keep off of the high horse in the first instance, while still recognizing that you have worth. Pride and standing on your values has a slippery slope to hubris and beating people over the head with principles. :3You really shouldn't be hard on yourself. If you Goggle "We are professional manipulators" you should find an article from the University of South Carolina from a Dr. Shannon Bowen, who researches and teaches PR ethics at the School of Journalism and Mass Communications that claims PR reps (in anonymity) say that they lie and manipulate professionally.
Honesty and integrity may be the minority but perseverance and time will tell. Truth always invariably comes out.
That all being said, I think I've done well enough, also fucked up plenty, and learned a lot from the experience.
Wolfen5
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Very true, "He who knows others is wise; he who knows himself is enlightened." - Lao Tzu.
Even for a member of a pirated porn game site, I still try to bring wisdom and meaning to my otherwise unremarkable existence. I just look at mirror and try to be proud of the person in that reflection.
I know you receive a lot of flack (even from yours truly), but keep up the fight. Whatever you believe is right. I'm going to go watch a manly movie now to get rid of this sap residue I just spewed.
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Actually, the machine translation sounds very good. I agree with most here that it sounds a lot better than Latecomer's translation. I know some German, and Latecomer is doing a word for word translation for the most part, whereas the machine translation actually sounds more natural, which is the opposite of what I would have predicted.
The good thing about MTL too is that, using it., you can write as much as you want and still have it all translate, which means no more throttling the amount of content to keep up with translation deadlines, you just keep going.
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I wouldn't expect a faster than previous content pace or more in those releases though. The bottleneck will always be the image creation side since it would take the most time to do generally. Not sure how the alpha/beta's went with script/translation corrections but perhaps it would speed up that aspect if it played a part previously.
I hope BlueCat jumps on the MTL stuff and gets it done, hopefully doesn't have problems getting a proof reader although I also feel like alpha/beta could help fill this. Perhaps a 'play tester' so the lines can be read in context of what's on screen and then make adjustments prior to final release.
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Soooo...guess this is good news for Bluecat. He won't have to skim down the script. More script, more renders, more content.