opiex942

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I really don't get it though. THIS WAS AN AMAZING VISUAL NOVEL, certainly one of the best. What kind of idiot just puts it into a 2-year hiatus for stupid reasons? If I don't see a release this year, then I will consider it dead and move on with my life.
I wouldn't call it amazing. It was pretty good, comparatively, for the period during which it launched. It didn't improve(in terms of visuals, quality of writing, UI or general "feel") significantly during the 2ish years of regular releases and it's been stagnating for close to another two. The only metric by which it beats any AVN out there(that I'm aware of) is the sheer number of characters.

And there's a very good reason most devs stick to a limited number of main LIs and a bunch of side characters.
 
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jesus. this thread is the perfect source, if someone is going to write a thesis on "human gullibility and the psychology behind it".

you fuckers need to get over this vn. it's not happening anymore and everything they've told you is bullshit.
I'd say there's threads with far more gullible people on this site than this one

Here, 1% of people believe the new imaginary problem that they announce every few months, and the new solution to that imaginary problem that bluecat is working on. But most of us aren't that ignorant to believe it. We got over this game a long time ago
 

Wolfen5

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jesus. this thread is the perfect source, if someone is going to write a thesis on "human gullibility and the psychology behind it".

you fuckers need to get over this vn. it's not happening anymore and everything they've told you is bullshit.
Meh, it's entertainment. The gf watches "Real housewives of Beverly Hills" laughing at their folly, I do the same here. Difference strokes for different folks.
Keeping the thread alive ensures the continuation of fun. This site wants it alive by not putting the "abandoned" tag, so why not partake, if it gives us laughs and a little drama?
 

OctoSky

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Meh, it's entertainment. The gf watches "Real housewives of Beverly Hills" laughing at their folly, I do the same here. Difference strokes for different folks.
Keeping the thread alive ensures the continuation of fun. This site wants it alive by not putting the "abandoned" tag, so why not partake, if it gives us laughs and a little drama?
Same Wolf. The thread is entertainment, definitely better than the housewives....course a screwdriver to the temple is more fun than the housewives.

Ok guys, for 1 million dollars, for the rest of your life every time you spend physical money, change or bills, you have to lick each one. Would you do it for 1 million dollars?
 

Wolfen5

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Ok guys, for 1 million dollars, for the rest of your life every time you spend physical money, change or bills, you have to lick each one. Would you do it for 1 million dollars?
I've licked worse, and since I use my debit card %95 of the time, I have zero issues licking the card also. :ROFLMAO:
 
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OctoSky

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I've licked worse, and since I use my debit card %95 of the time, I have zero issues licking the card also. :ROFLMAO:
Ok wolf, I got one for you. For a million dollars, for the rest of your life you never have to pay for anything, but whenever you go shopping in the store or online or pay bills or anything, there is a guy that pays for it BUT he sticks his finger in your ass for 5 seconds. Also its not just one transaction. If you pay all bills at the end of the month, thats 5 seconds per bill. So, you never have to pay for anything again since he pays but you get a finger in the ass. Would you take the money?
 

Wolfen5

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Ok wolf, I got one for you. For a million dollars, for the rest of your life you never have to pay for anything, but whenever you go shopping in the store or online or pay bills or anything, there is a guy that pays for it BUT he sticks his finger in your ass for 5 seconds. Also its not just one transaction. If you pay all bills at the end of the month, thats 5 seconds per bill. So, you never have to pay for anything again since he pays but you get a finger in the ass. Would you take the money?
Well, I'd have questions for clarification. lol
Is the limit 1 million dollars, so the finger in the ass is there UNTIL the million is spent or even when spent I still have to endure the finger til I die (since you mentioned rest of my life). Is the duration of the finger in ass cumulative and be paid in one "sitting" or does it require me to allow it each individual time? Silly questions, but having had colonoscopies and enemas for medical reasons I have less issues with something up there as opposed to the inconvenience of dropping my pants several times a day.
Now if I knew this would be the topic of the day for me, I might have decided to endure one show of housewives but since I'm not particularly shy nor prudish, I guess I'd still take the money, buy ES and finish it myself for the fuck of it.
 
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OctoSky

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Well, I'd have questions for clarification. lol
Is the limit 1 million dollars, so the finger in the ass is there UNTIL the million is spent or even when spent I still have to endure the finger til I die (since you mentioned rest of my life). Is the duration of the finger in ass cumulative and be paid in one "sitting" or does it require me to allow it each individual time? Silly questions, but having had colonoscopies and enemas for medical reasons I have less issues with something up there as opposed to the inconvenience of dropping my pants several times a day.
Now if I knew this would be the topic of the day for me, I might have decided to endure one show of housewives but since I'm not particularly shy nor prudish, I guess I'd still take the money, buy ES and finish it myself for the fuck of it.
No, the finger is in the ass ONLY when you purchase stuff. The million you get as soon as you accept it. Yes, its for the rest of your days. Lets say you pay 1 bill, thats 5 seconds of finger in ass. If you pay 5 bills thats 25 seconds. At stores or such its just one purchase so just 5 seconds. Once you have the million, its yours. I should also mention that it doesn't matter where you are, when he pays for you thats where you drop trousers and get fingered. So, imagine you go to the store and see a girl scout troop selling cookies and you buy them, bam, finger in ass in front of kids and parents.

Your right. Now that I'm really thinking about this it is weird....still better than the housewives in my opinion.
 
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Wolfen5

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No, the finger is in the ass ONLY when you purchase stuff. The million you get as soon as you accept it. Yes, its for the rest of your days. Lets say you pay 1 bill, thats 5 seconds of finger in ass. If you pay 5 bills thats 25 seconds. At stores or such its just one purchase so just 5 seconds. Once you have the million, its yours. I should also mention that it doesn't matter where you are, when he pays for you thats where you drop trousers and get fingered. So, imagine you go to the store and see a girl scout troop selling cookies and you buy them, bam, finger in ass in front of kids and parents.

Your right. Now that I'm really thinking about this it is weird....still better than the housewives in my opinion.
:ROFLMAO:
I guess my apprehension would be the potentiality of being arrested for indecent exposure then. Lawyer fees sapping away that million while a finger in the ass paying those same lawyers on top of everything else. Might be trouble for my love life and family so I guess I'm rethinking taking that deal. Too bad, who doesn't like money??? Like, bringing the gf or family to a nice restaurant for a romantic/ordinary dinner then having to drop my drawers at the table..might be the last time we go out together.
LOL Ok I'm done but Thank you for the laughs, a weird thought experiment to be sure but in all honesty not the weirdest. ;)
I'll give someone else the chance to respond to this, should they wish.
 
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layer1avn

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"Or anything" is a clause, so lawyer fees would be covered. Taking out hits in the slam would also be possible if you were both in the same cell.

Really the only downside is if the guy has Pinnochio fingers and punches a hole in your stomach.
 
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Wolfen5

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"Or anything" is a clause, so lawyer fees would be covered. Taking out hits in the slam would also be possible if you were both in the same cell.

Really the only downside is if the guy has Pinnochio fingers and punches a hole in your stomach.
I guess, didn't see that. I'm sure it would be in this fictitious contract so. I can have a suspension of disbelief for getting a finger in the ass per transaction for a million dollars, but a gut puncturing stabbing A la terminator T-1000 finger-sword would be a no deal for obvious reasons. :HideThePain:
 

RandoCard3

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jesus. this thread is the perfect source, if someone is going to write a thesis on "human gullibility and the psychology behind it".

you fuckers need to get over this vn. it's not happening anymore and everything they've told you is bullshit.
This would have come across less stupid if the thread wasn't chock full of people saying they don't believe anything the devs are saying. Can you not read? Or is it more serious than that?

Anyway, if you have nothing to add the thread beyond randomly insulting everybody in it, kindly fuck off.
 

Wolfen5

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This would have come across less stupid if the thread wasn't chock full of people saying they don't believe anything the devs are saying. Can you not read? Or is it more serious than that?

Anyway, if you have nothing to add the thread beyond randomly insulting everybody in it, kindly fuck off.
Be kind. He/She/They just felt left out and wanted some sort of validation and/or acknowledgement of their presence. Whilst some of us are very skeptical at this point, and others are hopeful, I'll headpat everyone the same, I can love the haters and hate the lovers and all in between.
 

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I guess I'll chuck some additional thoughts on this.

1) They really shouldn't call it a merge given what they said they are doing with it and how long it's taken it kind of oversells how long a merge should take *cough*, but even by their own previous examples. And yet, it can't be called a remaster or remake either since from a player perspective that will not be the case. Not sure what you would call it then.

2) Speaking on player perspective, a "jank" version is good enough if it works cause from the player perspective of playing it there would be nothing wrong and "just works" which is what my merge was supposed to point out mostly. I think it is a common trap for game developers to over complicate stuff and the result is it takes significantly longer or ends up scrapped as a result.

3) I'm not even sure how much is broken, and part of this is because it's been so long since actually playing it and what wasn't working and when but I think most (?) things were working in the latest releases which you would work off of and work backwards since you have a base that works already. (like I did)

4) Lack of communication is definitely a thing, but it's more so a lack of detailed information that's the problem. When they try to give detailed information it often doesn't make logical sense so that doesn't help either. I know the 'saves' is something they presented as a big issue but thinking about it now, does renpy have a hard limit on how many variables it can track? I remember looking at one of the saves and it seemed oddly bloated which I still think is just poor design, but maybe if there's any devs around here they can answer if they know of any hard limits the renpy save system has or not.
Oh yeah, I agree. It really shouldn't have been called a merge, unelss that was just the original intent and later changed- but when the intent changed they should have said so and not just continued to refer to it as a merge.

As for "jank version being good enough", I disagree, especially if it causes more problems than it fixes going forward, which was likely the case.

Poor design, poor communication, poor workflow, just everything has been mishandled with this project, from what I can see.

I prefer cats. Just not blue ones. For obvious reasons

Latecomers apparently trying to remake Renpy. They're as delusional as bluecat. And seeing as they can't do a months worth of work in a year and a half, I don't think any of it really matters anymore. What they say and what they do are polar opposites. I wouldn't bother getting vexed about any of it tbh
Oof, but I really can't refute that this is what it looks like; he's far outstepped his technical capabilities and is unable to do what he wanted, but isn't owning up to that and just keeps putting things off.
 
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OctoSky

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Oof, but I really can't refute that this is what it looks like; he's far outstepped his technical capabilities and is unable to do what he wanted, but isn't owning up to that and just keeps putting things off.
And now he is working on other projects while still doing the merge. Doesn't exactly bode well for the future of this game. If I remember correctly, which doesn't happen often, Bluecat made Latecomer the project leader/manager. So if your project manager can't do a merge of already existing content for almost two years then starts working on other projects while this one is still not done....yeah, its a fucking shitshow and Bluecat needs to seriously get rid of him and hire someone better.
 

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Insinuating that we have slow update schedules?

I'll take that as an offense; outside of these once-in-a-lifetime releases like Week 1 and Month 1, our update schedules are completely mental when you see just how much content we release in the regular schedule.
checked back on the thread after 2 years, seems like there is no new update yet so i was reminded of this answer to when i basically said why are you releasing a holiday special when there hasn't been a release for a year?


heh, yeah i was saying you have a slow update schedule but i didn't know exactly how slow holy shit
 

Wolfen5

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checked back on the thread after 2 years, seems like there is no new update yet so i was reminded of this answer to when i basically said why are you releasing a holiday special when there hasn't been a release for a year?


heh, yeah i was saying you have a slow update schedule but i didn't know exactly how slow holy shit
Careful, as OctoSky can attest to, bringing receipts to display verified deflection will only lead to more entertainment here. ;)
 
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