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The main disadvantage of this game is that no matter what you do, Monica will still be humiliated, which will entail even more meaningless text and the same meaningless decisions. Unexpected plot twists, when the actions of a character aimed at improving a calamitous situation, leading to much worse consequences, are undoubtedly good and interesting, but the plot of this game is literally built on them and it is insanely infuriating. Actually, that's why you know what's going to happen, and it doesn't arouse any interest. I wish all patient people good luck to complete the game, but personally I'm already fucked up and I'm done with it.
 
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Hello everyone!
I'm thrilled to introduce the latest regular update for the game "Fashion Business"!
This update, as always, has been crafted with a lot of effort and creativity.
It includes over 1900 images and plenty of cool, hot animations.
In this update, I’m excited to present a new feature: the ability to manually change camera angles during cinematic animations. I believe this enhances the immersion in the H-scenes and adds more emotion.
I hope you’ll appreciate this new addition. If you like it, I plan to implement this feature in previous updates as well.
What's new:
  • Office: The continuation of the husband casting. Who will be the next candidate? (hot photo session, animated scene, extra content)
  • Home: The good housewife and caring neighbor. What has Fred prepared for Monica? (big hot animated scene)
  • Julia: What do Julia and Betty have in common? A plot behind Monica's back (animated scenes, extra content)
  • Falling Path: Marketing lessons for Monica (hot scenes, animations, extra content)
  • Philip: Continuing the contract with Philip (big scene, animations, extra content)

With this update, the game is moving to a newer version of the Ren’Py engine, 7.6.3.
Due to this, there will be no update code this time, as the updated full game distribution is required to play.

I’m deeply grateful to everyone who supports me in this long and challenging journey of creating "Fashion Business"!
Your support helps the project grow and gradually move towards completion.

Enjoy the Game!
So no Shiny Hole again ? So disappointing.
 

Stan5851

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In other games, the hero comes after a day at most, but in this game, the hero does not come for a very long time.
Heh, tell that to those people who play games from "Frozen Synapse" (LFFG, Diatima's Isekai, Luna: Reloaded (the sequel to the LFFG). In these threads, fresh updates only appeared when the developer himself posted a public (free) version on his patreon. So it's different for everyone.
Usually, if the game is not leaked on other sites, we have to wait a week or two
As far as I remember, the last few updates of the game appeared here only due to the fact that one pirate site (from FB dev's homeland) after 2++ weeks just bought another fresh update on patreon with their own money and then put it in the public access.
 
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Bazino

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The main disadvantage of this game is that no matter what you do, Monica will still be humiliated,
Yeah I agree that the only difference between the "good" choices and the "whore" choices is that you will earn less money with the "good" choices and have a harder time, but overall there is no way to actually influence anything. Basically a "good" playthrough just leads to you having to grind more and see less content.

The part that "infuriates" me, is that Monica is supposed to be a business lady, but basically all her decisions show a complete lack of business knowledge, bartering knowledge or even absolute basic common sense. I've dealt with a couple escorts in my life so far and let me tell you, all of those are way smarter than Monica. They would never bang without condom for example, let alone accept some of the customers that Monica accepts. Also things like her showing her boobs for 0.25 $ is a joke. Not even in the philippines or thailand, etc. are prices THAT low. Not to mention that Monica would never accept such prices. And things like Monica drinking way too much for 1$ a drink are just not happening in real life. The working girls who will drink with you know exactly how much they can drink (or snort/shoot up/whatever) and will NEVER take more than they can handle, so that they will not get into the exact situations that Monica gets into every time.

Also the prices that the supposedly "high end escort service" in the Hotel charges are a joke. In contrast 5000 $ for some basic explicit nude photoshoot is WAY overpriced. Female talent in pron get's a max of 1000$ per shoot if they look very, very good, maybe a bit more if they are already superstar famous in the industry.

All this aside it's still one of the best (looking) games out there, which saves it despite all the logical errors and holes in the story.
 

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Yeah I agree that the only difference between the "good" choices and the "whore" choices is that you will earn less money with the "good" choices and have a harder time, but overall there is no way to actually influence anything. Basically a "good" playthrough just leads to you having to grind more and see less content.

The part that "infuriates" me, is that Monica is supposed to be a business lady, but basically all her decisions show a complete lack of business knowledge, bartering knowledge or even absolute basic common sense. I've dealt with a couple escorts in my life so far and let me tell you, all of those are way smarter than Monica. They would never bang without condom for example, let alone accept some of the customers that Monica accepts. Also things like her showing her boobs for 0.25 $ is a joke. Not even in the philippines or thailand, etc. are prices THAT low. Not to mention that Monica would never accept such prices. And things like Monica drinking way too much for 1$ a drink are just not happening in real life. The working girls who will drink with you know exactly how much they can drink (or snort/shoot up/whatever) and will NEVER take more than they can handle, so that they will not get into the exact situations that Monica gets into every time.

Also the prices that the supposedly "high end escort service" in the Hotel charges are a joke. In contrast 5000 $ for some basic explicit nude photoshoot is WAY overpriced. Female talent in pron get's a max of 1000$ per shoot if they look very, very good, maybe a bit more if they are already superstar famous in the industry.

All this aside it's still one of the best (looking) games out there, which saves it despite all the logical errors and holes in the story.
In game that has MAGIC (Fred`s dick) talking about realistic prices usless)
 

Stan5851

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Yeah I agree that the only difference between the "good" choices and the "whore" choices is that you will earn less money with the "good" choices and have a harder time, but overall there is no way to actually influence anything. Basically a "good" playthrough just leads to you having to grind more and see less content.

The part that "infuriates" me, is that Monica is supposed to be a business lady, but basically all her decisions show a complete lack of business knowledge, bartering knowledge or even absolute basic common sense. I've dealt with a couple escorts in my life so far and let me tell you, all of those are way smarter than Monica. They would never bang without condom for example, let alone accept some of the customers that Monica accepts. Also things like her showing her boobs for 0.25 $ is a joke. Not even in the philippines or thailand, etc. are prices THAT low. Not to mention that Monica would never accept such prices. And things like Monica drinking way too much for 1$ a drink are just not happening in real life. The working girls who will drink with you know exactly how much they can drink (or snort/shoot up/whatever) and will NEVER take more than they can handle, so that they will not get into the exact situations that Monica gets into every time.

Also the prices that the supposedly "high end escort service" in the Hotel charges are a joke. In contrast 5000 $ for some basic explicit nude photoshoot is WAY overpriced. Female talent in pron get's a max of 1000$ per shoot if they look very, very good, maybe a bit more if they are already superstar famous in the industry.)

All this aside it's still one of the best (looking) games out there, which saves it despite all the logical errors and holes in the story.
Your mistake is taking this world too seriously. FB is not one of those games that is even remotely close to reality.
 
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qazxsw80

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The main disadvantage of this game is that no matter what you do, Monica will still be humiliated, which will entail even more meaningless text and the same meaningless decisions.
It is not a disadvantage, it is the main feature or main kink of the game. Fashion Business is not a game about a smart and independent woman who deals with her enemies left and right. There are such games, mostly non-adult. You can play them if you want such stuff.
The part that "infuriates" me, is that Monica is supposed to be a business lady, but basically all her decisions show a complete lack of business knowledge, bartering knowledge or even absolute basic common sense.
It is only Monica herself who thinks she is a smart business lady with a lot of knoledge about business stuff and overall life. In reality she has always been an arrogant know-it-all trophy wife who has no experience with real life. Monica has never been a smart escort girl or whatever. She is a pretty doll who thinks too much of herself, no more. That's why she constantly ends up in stupid situations where everyone takes advantage of her, bangs her and makes her suck their dicks.
 

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How to activate extra for EP3? Maybe I'm overlooking something, but I only see activation for 2 and 4 but not 3.
 

Stan5851

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She is a pretty doll who thinks too much of herself, no more. That's why she constantly ends up in stupid situations where everyone takes advantage of her, bangs her and makes her suck their dicks.
No, that's not why. She gets into these situations purely because people have been paying money to DM for years on end precisely to get Monica into these humiliating situations on purpose.

As for "FB reality" - it's very conventional and quite absurd, but even in that absurdity Monica calmly and quite successfully ran a multi-million dollar business (Fashion Magazine). Everything we know about this business (up to the point where the conspiracy against Monica began to take effect) is only due to the successful management of "stupid" Monica. And all we know about the husband is that he allegedly stole something, crossed the path of powerful people and got into trouble. (or mysteriously disappeared but will return someday - hello, my favorite conspiracy theory:illuminati:).

Well, you can probably read about why some men like to humiliate women (especially rich ones) in psychology and sociology textbooks. I don't see the point in describing all this and even less in moralizing, especially considering the fact that I play FB myself). Anyway, there's a whole complex of underlying reasons here.

Oh yeah, also our Monica has no choice, or rather, her creator just deprived her of that right. (well yes, you can fail the quest and that's the whole "choice" thing). So all questions to the dev., who is responsible for the Monica that we have.
 

qazxsw80

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As for "FB reality" - it's very conventional and quite absurd, but even in that absurdity Monica calmly and quite successfully ran a multi-million dollar business (Fashion Magazine). Everything we know about this business (up to the point where the conspiracy against Monica began to take effect) is only due to the successful management of "stupid" Monica.
As far as I remember it is never told how she became the head of the company. Also, we are never told who her husband was exactly, how important he was in running the company before the disappearence and so on. Considering that Monica is about 30, it is very unlikely that she became the head of Fashion Magazine without any help. And that help came from her husband, most probably. The most likely turn of events: the magazine existed and was successful long before Monica. Her husband bought it and put her in charge and she managed it for a few years.
No, that's not why. She gets into these situations purely because people have been paying money to DM for years on end precisely to get Monica into these humiliating situations on purpose.
Monica doesn't exist outside the paradigm of the game developed by Decent Monkey. And according to that paradigm Monica gets into humiliating situations because of her stupid actions. If the developer wanted her to be different, she would be different. But he doesn't and so Monica is shown the way she is. All the events in the game show her that way. They don't portrait her as an intelligent business lady. And since that how she is depicted, that who she is in the game.
Oh yeah, also our Monica has no choice, or rather, her creator just deprived her of that right. (well yes, you can fail the quest and that's the whole "choice" thing). So all questions to the dev., who is responsible for the Monica that we have.
She is a game character. She cannot have a choice. All her action is the decision of Decent Monkey. She acts in the game the way she does because the developer thinks that she should act according to her game character. And that character is an arrogant bitch who thinks she is very smart and important, but in reality she isn't. And she isn't because the game shows it that way.
 
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No, that's not why. She gets into these situations purely because people have been paying money to DM for years on end precisely to get Monica into these humiliating situations on purpose.
Haha. That is a what come first, the chicken or the egg? Question. Sure things have expanded and been added due to his patreons. What game hasn't. However qazxsw80 post is on the money.

As for "FB reality" - it's very conventional and quite absurd, but even in that absurdity Monica calmly and quite successfully ran a multi-million dollar business (Fashion Magazine). Everything we know about this business (up to the point where the conspiracy against Monica began to take effect) is only due to the successful management of "stupid" Monica. And all we know about the husband is that he allegedly stole something, crossed the path of powerful people and got into trouble. (or mysteriously disappeared but will return someday - hello, my favorite conspiracy theory:illuminati:).
I haven't seen any evidence of Monica's so called "successful management" throughout the 4 episodes. She got the money to start the business from the absent husband. She delegated all the day to day tasks to her secretary, who it looks like did everything. It seems she was being ripped off left and right, just look how much the IT guy says her company pays for replacement hard drives. If anything her fashion magazine was a money pit propped up by her husbands wealth.

Throughout the whole game she has been portrayed as someone who thinks better of herself than anyone else does. She was always in for a fall. She doesn't just find herself in these situations because the patreons are paying for it. It was always the intent of the game and dev that this was going to happen.
 
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1 thing i don`t like in Basement quest (2 for real - 2 frame animation fuck machine scene):
timeline - 2 of 4 "guests" have their own scenes in other plots, that take place after basement end. I really don`t wanna replay and read all scenes again till 4.07-4.08 if it will have 2nd variation. (cus even 1st investors meeting in 3.16 had blocked text in code with variations according to Philip basement)
 
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Stan5851

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Monica doesn't exist outside the paradigm of the game developed by Decent Monkey. And according to that paradigm Monica gets into humiliating situations because of her stupid actions. If the developer wanted her to be different, she would be different. But he doesn't and so Monica is shown the way she is. All the events in the game show her that way. They don't portrait her as an intelligent business lady. And since that how she is depicted, that who she is in the game.
No, she gets into these situations because she's being blackmailed and because she, as a game character, has no choice but to accept humiliation. All we know from open sources is the so-called game concept, or, more simply, how the game will be set up (which DM published in 2019 on a Russian-language pirate site).

However, neither there nor here on f95, I have not yet encountered any explanations or detailed comments from the developer about the character of the heroine, game biography, her mental abilities, business management skills, personality development, etc.

Therefore, I prefer not to hide the unsightly picture behind beautiful words. The essence of the game is a series of endless humiliations of a rich (in the past) and sexually attractive woman (arrogant bitch). The main tool of influence on the MC is blackmail, which can be classified as coercion to sex and other violent actions of a sexual nature. The current goal of the game is to further humiliate and have sex with the MC.
She is a game character. She cannot have a choice. All her action is the decision of Decent Monkey. She acts in the game the way she does because the developer thinks that she should act according to her game character. And that character is an arrogant bitch who thinks she is very smart and important, but in reality she isn't. And she isn't because the game shows it that way.
Yeah, she is a playable character, and in AVN (unless the game is positioned by the developer as a kinetic novel), the MC controlled by the player always has a priori a choice. So Monica's lack of choice by virtue of the developer deciding so is a weak excuse. It just shows that the game was not thought through to the end and its goal was only to create a conveyor belt of endless blackmail and humiliation for the sake of humiliation, not that the player could consciously influence his character and, say, make him better (or worse) in terms of personality. And no, don't tell me about bitchiness levels. Those are just crutches that can't replace the player's direct influence on the actions of their game character.
 

Bazino

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You all do not get the point. Even if Monica is "dumb", nobody is dumb enough that he would let someone RECORD them having to do shit with which they could be blackmailed even further than they are already being blackmailed. And she does it ALL THE TIME.

At first only Victoria had something on her. Who else has something on her now? At least 2 of the slum customers, Steve's secretary, 2 photographers, her biggest business rival, Philipp (if you go to his basement) and maybe others that I forgot of the top of my head.

There is literally NO way for her to get a good ending, unless the revenge path gets so whack that she somehow manages to kill EVERYONE including Marcus and all involved cops AND not get caught doing it.

Basically she is in a position, that ALL endings will make zero sense, since there will be at least 2-3 people left to blackmail her until the end of time with recordings.

I'm sure there was an idea at the start of the game, but it very fast turned into an endless series of rapes and nothing else. It's still funny to watch (because it's a FICTIONAL STORY), but to anyone with a brain it's intellectually insulting and infuriating at the same time.
 

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You all do not get the point. Even if Monica is "dumb", nobody is dumb enough that he would let someone RECORD them having to do shit with which they could be blackmailed even further than they are already being blackmailed. And she does it ALL THE TIME.

At first only Victoria had something on her. Who else has something on her now? At least 2 of the slum customers, Steve's secretary, 2 photographers, her biggest business rival, Philipp (if you go to his basement) and maybe others that I forgot of the top of my head.

There is literally NO way for her to get a good ending, unless the revenge path gets so whack that she somehow manages to kill EVERYONE including Marcus and all involved cops AND not get caught doing it.

Basically she is in a position, that ALL endings will make zero sense, since there will be at least 2-3 people left to blackmail her until the end of time with recordings.

I'm sure there was an idea at the start of the game, but it very fast turned into an endless series of rapes and nothing else. It's still funny to watch (because it's a FICTIONAL STORY), but to anyone with a brain it's intellectually insulting and infuriating at the same time.

Monica's arrogance and the total lack of business 'skills', something everyone else sees but her ignorance of, make the game more entertaining, not sure if that was planned or the overall intent but it's turned out well for us and the creator
 
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