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No, I don't blame HW for Valve taking their time. I'm saying that the repeated pattern of HW doing the same thing time and time again was funny, and continues to grow funnier each time. It's bizarre to see it happening, the continuous slowing down of development and blame deflection is something I have never seen happen to this capacity. Nothing comes to mind that rivals it, at least not to me right now.

And it's something I see you, and the people in the DC continue to ignore. In my original message, I brought up a point that could have been, and should have been adressed but was entirely ignored, that being the slowing down of the scene implementation in the weekly reports. The "point" of my message wasn't the steam review part. It was the pattern that has been around since the game's inception, up until 9 years later, just before its release.

If something doesn't come up to push that release further away, of course...
If you have seen any of my posts from either earlier in this thread, in the less moderated thread, and/or in the old ULMF thread, you'd know that I am very well aware of how bad he is at release dates and delays. I've ragged on him about it in his own damn discord. I've just stopped caring because that particular point has been beat to death for years, to the point where even the mods are tired of it and are actively cleaning the thread of it.

Yes HW is bad at release dates. You've cracked the code. You've solved the riddle. Congratulations. No one actually cares anymore. I don't defend HW because of some hope that the game will come out sooner rather than later, I'm apathetic to that. I'm arguing with you because no one here will shut the fuck up about this one point, cluttering page after page of this thread with the same thing over and over again. Like yes we are well aware how he is, thank you for pointing it out for the thousandth time.
 
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This game isn’t coming out for many more months. Do people think the dev will give up $7000 a month so easily? Game’s been mostly done for years. Stretching the game extra years to add some pointless lore has made the dev hundreds of thousands. Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, shame on you, fool me 999 times, this shit is almost a scam. The game’s been delayed with excuses so many times it’s comical
 

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If you have seen any of my posts from either earlier in this thread, in the less moderated thread, and/or in the old ULMF thread, you'd know that I am very well aware of how bad he is at release dates and delays. I've ragged on him about it in his own damn discord. I've just stopped caring because that particular point has been beat to death for years, to the point where even the mods are tired of it and are actively cleaning the thread of it.

Yes HW is bad at release dates. You've cracked the code. You've solved the riddle. Congratulations. No one actually cares anymore. I don't defend HW because of some hope that the game will come out sooner rather than later, I'm apathetic to that. I'm arguing with you because no one here will shut the fuck up about this one point, cluttering page after page of this thread with the same thing over and over again. Like yes we are well aware how he is, thank you for pointing it out for the thousandth time.
Why keep following the thread then if you don't mind me asking? I share your frustrations a bit which is why I seldom post unless I feel I have something to add. But there's been nothing else to talk about other than the missed release dates and for the last 1.5 years now other than that brief month we spent discussing the updated fire demo. I quickly went through the last 50 pages of this thread (and the entirety of the other thread) looking to see what you wanted to talk about and I'd say about 75% of your posts are about the release date, and maybe another 10-15% are arguing with other users over some topic related to the game, you had maybe 1 post talking about the fire demo, and another post discussing gallery. And this is ignoring who knows how many your posts got deleted in the great mod thread purge.

Despite that, I find most of your posts to be pretty well spoken and thought out and I agree with most of the points you make, I'm not bashing you for what you post about, but when I walk into this thread I know what I am going to find. You mentioned you were in FF's discord (maybe you aren't anymore) and surely there is a dozen different better ways to keep track of when this game releases as opposed to page 201 of a pirate forum.

So I'd like to hear from you what do you want to talk about? Nobody is bringing up any new topics because there's nothing to discuss other than the missed release date or replying to people discussing the missed release date, so lets start a new topic.
 
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Why keep following the thread then if you don't mind me asking? I share your frustrations a bit which is why I seldom post unless I feel I have something to add. But there's been nothing else to talk about other than the missed release dates and for the last 1.5 years now other than that brief month we spent discussing the updated fire demo. I quickly went through the last 50 pages of this thread (and the entirety of the other thread) looking to see what you wanted to talk about and I'd say about 75% of your posts are about the release date, and maybe another 10-15% are arguing with other users over some topic related to the game, you had maybe 1 post talking about the fire demo, and another post discussing gallery. And this is ignoring who knows how many your posts got deleted in the great mod thread purge.

Despite that, I find most of your posts to be pretty well spoken and thought out and I agree with most of the points you make, I'm not bashing you for what you post about, but when I walk into this thread I know what I am going to find. You mentioned you were in FF's discord (maybe you aren't anymore) and surely there is a dozen different better ways to keep track of when this game releases as opposed to page 201 of a pirate forum.

So I'd like to hear from you what do you want to talk about? Nobody is bringing up any new topics because there's nothing to discuss other than the missed release date or replying to people discussing the missed release date, so lets start a new topic.
Honestly the thread should die unless there's something actually new, like the game or a new demo coming out, in my opinion. I follow the thread for important updates, game discussion, and/or leaks, like most people on this website do. Problem is we can't discuss a game that isn't properly out yet. I just fail to understand that if there's been nothing else to talk about, why do we have people pouring in constantly to complain about the game not coming out. Is it just to complain for complaining sake? Because with how some people here have been bashing the game to hell and back, they certainly aren't going to be playing it.

Its almost as if this thread has become a place for reaction farming.
 
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Honestly the thread should die unless there's something actually new, like the game or a new demo coming out, in my opinion. I follow the thread for important updates, game discussion, and/or leaks, like most people on this website do. Problem is we can't discuss a game that isn't properly out yet. I just fail to understand that if there's been nothing else to talk about, why do we have people pouring in constantly to complain about the game not coming out. Is it just to complain for complaining sake? Because with how some people here have been bashing the game to hell and back, they certainly aren't going to be playing it.
I think its a case of people coming and going, people see "release in 2023" and go "ok I'll check back in a year from now" and then return to the thread and go "lmao it's still not out" and then someone replies to them the lore of HW and FF delays and suddenly we're back on the topic. Most of the people who keep bringing up the whole release date stuff aren't really regular thread watchers, they haven't read the last 50 pages of shitting on HW.


As far as the thread itself, I mentioned this a bit in my message on the other thread but I've always been confused by the moderation on this website.

Do the mods just intend all discussion of this game to be 10 pages of "is the fire level boss in this demo?" "no", "when is it releasing" "December supposedly". Those spam posts on every other page are more important than the posts critiquing the dev for his actions related to the games development? Why not just go the spacebattles forum route and just lock the thread a certain period of time after the latest demo and have people request unlock due to new information? Between February 2022 and August 2023 there was nothing new to discuss about this game other than a progress report png with a changing number the only thing worth discussing was the dev changing his release date multiple times. What were we suppose to discuss? The electric demo which had existed in some form since 2018? Or the 0.49 demo which had existed since 2021?
imo they should really implement a system of locking problematic threads (because this is not the only one on this website) in which problematic threads auto lock after 1 or 2 months of the OP getting updated with a new game version, and only unlock when a user submits a request for unlock either with new information (aka a demo or something relevant to the game), or they have something of quality to add to the discussion (mod, translation, patreon dev post etc...) in which the users can then discuss this new information before the thread auto locks again.

Not every thread needs this but my general experience on F95 has been every thread with more than 100 pages inevitably turns into a dumpster fire. I know locking threads will never be popular with general userbase but surely it can't be a worse solution than the mods needing to purge the thread 3 separate times in the span of 12 months because there's nothing to discuss and users keep discussing things the mods don't like. You can even see for yourself when FF got the updated fire demo the thread dwellers put down their pitchforks to actually discuss the game rather than it's development/HW for a change.

Just my 2 cents anyway, I'll have some popcorn cooked up for when this game releases in the next few weeks (SUPPOSEDLY) because I am sure it will be a fun time reading this thread.
 

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As far as the thread itself, I mentioned this a bit in my message on the other thread but I've always been confused by the moderation on this website.
I disagree with the thread locking part, but when it gets this unruly there should be some way to filter out the people discussing the game (setbacks and everything included) and the shit flinging competition directed at individuals (devs, players, anyone who voices an opinion that doesn't match someone else's to a T).

Just my 2 cents anyway, I'll have some popcorn cooked up for when this game releases in the next few weeks (SUPPOSEDLY) because I am sure it will be a fun time reading this thread.
It's been a wild ride and I'm sure just about everyone is anxious for it to end. Kinda sucks that things are in Steam's hands now, but what can you do.
It was a refreshing change of pace seeing people getting involved, asking questions, and sharing what they'd seen in the latest demo.
 
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Oh the things we can talk about when there are things to talk about.
My point exactly.

Don't get me wrong. I was saying the exact same things everyone else here is saying years ago, point for point. My problem is that the points have been said to death and aren't helping anything anymore.

Like seriously, who are we helping by just bitching and moaning every single page? The people who planned to purchase this game? I seriously doubt f95zone users are even a drop in the bucket of the Steam market HentaiWriter can pull right now. Let's get over ourselves here.
 
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Zepheral

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Honestly, I forgot this game existed.

There are many other options, I took the advise from some users. If you don't like the art, go somewhere else.

There always will be someone who can paint the masterpiece you want. You just gotta find them.

Guys who are complaining, waiting here isn't gonna help. Cause this ain't gonna change. Your time should be better spend and respected elsewhere.
 

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I seriously doubt f95zone users are even a drop in the bucket of the Steam market HentaiWriter can pull right now. Let's get over ourselves here.
I doubt it: sure, there any new platform means wider exposure, but it's akin to moving from a tiny marketplace where you have a booth as large as anyone else's to a planet-sized marketplace but you still have the same tiny booth on an empty roadside hundreds of miles from the country-sized monolith of "Triple A titles". Eroge/hentai titles on Steam are still a relatively small share of overall interest, and word-of-mouth/recurrent interest (e.g. people who already followed on other platforms) are probably as important as anywhere else. Even factoring in the assumption that HW is just incompetent, if Steam were such a potential goldmine I'd think they would have put more effort into actually putting the game into a release-ready state, rather than dragging their feet for the past what, year or two since the last time they tried?

F95 may not be huge, but it is definitely a large name nowadays among...uh..."h-game hunters" (I have no idea wtf to call us as a generalized demographic lol)? H-games face the massive hurdle that they can't widely advertise, meaning that any forums in which they can be discussed are arguably essential to promoting them; if they weren't, I don't think HW would waste so much of their time and life force reporting people and whining about bad reviews. Even if the Steam release were their golden goose, they can't even be consistent on what they want the game to be, as demonstrated by arguments throughout the thread about whether this is even meant to be "about the h-content" or if it's just an incredibly poor Metroidvania that happens to have h-scenes. Without any kind of identity, the game wouldn't draw anyone in no matter how large the audience: why play a mid-tier sidescroller that (as of recently) has self-indulgent levels of dialogue about a non-existent story when I could just play Blasphemous, Risk of Rain 1, or just about any other sidescroller that's vastly superior at the low cost of not having h-scenes (which, as aforementioned, isn't what the game is about according to some)?

All of this is really just to say that I do think our opinions and discussion matter given the difficulty of wider advertising for h-games. Even if they do eventually release on Steam, they will first have to sell enough to offset the impact it will have on their subs: no more project means less backers (assuming they're not all on automatic payments and forgot about them years ago), and unless they intend to market it as an h-game, as mentioned above I highly doubt any significant number of people will be impressed by the gameplay. They're either gonna have to suck it up and accept that their "brilliant writing" isn't going to impress anyone when stacked against vastly superior 2d platformers that have released in recent years and refocus on the hentai elements, or I just don't see how they get any more than a few hundred/thousand downloads.

And just to be clear, this isn't taking shots at the game or anyone: the only relevant things to discuss about the game currently are the prospects for the Steam release (assuming HW is even being honest about the release schedule in the first place), so I'm just giving my two cents on the importance of smaller communities like f95 in relation to h-game marketing and the relative likelihood of HW benefitting from Steam even assuming they do release by the end of the month.
 
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Our team has been extremely patient when attempting to deal with this game, its developer, its fans & critics, and all other associated drama and infighting. We've experienced the same type of difficulties experienced by other platforms and it's become a very arduous task to maintain this thread any longer.

If you wish to discuss or comment on this content, then please use the unmoderated offtopic thread for now https://f95zone.to/threads/future-fragments-fans-and-fuckbois-festival.155495/
 

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Almost full save. Didn't manage to play some of the ideal scenes and being honest, not even sure if they work. Also Final Boss WREN is not done, no idea how to beat him.
At least i managed to unlock the gallery for all Levels.
Save Slot 2, 4, 5, 7 are before the boss defeat scenes. Slot 9 is just broken :(


Save Path: C:\Users\[Your Username]\AppData\Roaming\Future_Fragments
 

Dinglederper

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Ah shit, we got got again. It actually released. Well now what do we do?
What we never thought possible: actually play the (still not entirely) complete game. Truly one of the timelines of all time.

Damn, this place updated before backers got their copy they were promised from way back in the day, wild
Nah, what would be wild is if they actually follow through on that promise; I wouldn't put it past HW to redirect people here out of pure spite for the moderators (sorry mods, I know he harasses you as much as us party clowns do :KEK: )
 
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