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This made my evening. Thank you.

It's always a joy to see someone new discover my little game and even more so when they "get it". As you have so wonderfully laid out, and you'll forgive me for not confirming or denying anything plot wise, it is a very deep game, especially in respect to the characters. That said it can, ofc, be played very much at a surface level - but equally for those who wish...well, it's all there.


"Tensions have always been high between the Empire and the Orcish warbands that surround them - especially as the Empire's power wanes, wasted on conflict between the petty lords who hope to ascend the vacant Velvet Throne. The Orcish Warbands still remember the old genocides, and the humiliating demands for Orcish women as tribute; now, with the outlying towns abandoned by their once-protectors, they can do little to stop a new generation eager for revenge from claiming what they believe is due, even if they worry about the Empire's fury if it can once again unify under a strong leader"...Just ends up becoming "Gloria slaughtered a bunch of orcs after they pillaged a town! Isn't that so cool!?".
*laughs* Yep, sounds about right!

I thought it would be a fine idea to round up some ensigns to hunt Orphions for the good of humanity.
You monster! ;)

-Though on another note, it'd be nice if fem!PC could still die for blackmailing Sarah. It might be a bit harder to explain, but you are still alone in a room with Annie; maybe she could find another way to deal with you?
Becca has plenty of black dresses in her wardrobe is all I'll say... ;)

Your Channel 7 Parody reward for repairing the remote was hilarious! I was seriously laughing by the end of it, and kind of wish there was an expanded version to lampoon more overused porn tropes.
*grins* Glad you liked it. There is another used screen in the lounge that I haven't done anything with yet...

-While this isn't in the game yet... I'm very much looking forward to the talk on Patreon of how we're actually going to go about fixing the base! It's honestly all to common for the main character's job to just kind of be background noise and not actually matter - it's nice to see that we're actually going to be doing some engineering here to fix things, instead of just being told "Okay, you went to work and it's evening now, what are you going to do?".
Have you seen this It gives a little overview over how it will all work. The tricky bit was designing something that would allow those who wanted to deep dive to be able to do so, yet also allow those who really weren't that bothered not to be forced to do a load of stuff they didn't want to. Where possible I want the player to be able to play the game the way they want to - and not the way I think they should.

Oops. I... Kind of feel like Sarah now.
Been there! I worry she's my spirit guide some days...

But I'm glad you so obviously enjoyed my work, and even more so that you've appreciated all the attention to detail that has gone into it. I hope you'll continue to enjoy it as we go forward. :) Although I can't promise that Sarah's GM'ing gets any better I'm afraid...
 
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This made my evening. Thank you.

It's always a joy to see someone new discover my little game and even more so when they "get it". As you have so wonderfully laid out, and you'll forgive me for not confirming or denying anything plot wise, it is a very deep game, especially in respect to the characters. That said it can, ofc, be played very much at a surface level - but equally for those who wish...well, it's all there.
I'm looking forward to learning more about the characters as the game progresses, then :) ! I just hope that in the future, I don't end up reading too much into the characters and end up with completely ridiculous conclusions about what they're "really" like...

You monster! ;)
I prefer realist. Besides it could be fun. See if we can get Sarah blooded.

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Have you seen this It gives a little overview over how it will all work. The tricky bit was designing something that would allow those who wanted to deep dive to be able to do so, yet also allow those who really weren't that bothered not to be forced to do a load of stuff they didn't want to. Where possible I want the player to be able to play the game the way they want to - and not the way I think they should.
Ah, that was what prompted my comment, actually! My apologies if my bullet point was a little vague about that.

*grins* Glad you liked it. There is another used screen in the lounge that I haven't done anything with yet...
...Oh, dear. I'm going to have to choose between doing my job finding the power issue, chatting up my coworkers, and watching a hilarious porn parody, aren't I? There's definitely not going to be enough time for all of this...

This really is a game about making hard choices, isn't it :oops: .


But I'm glad you so obviously enjoyed my work, and even more so that you've appreciated all the attention to detail that has gone into it. I hope you'll continue to enjoy it as we go forward. :) Although I can't promise that Sarah's GM'ing gets any better I'm afraid...
Do you have any plans on putting this up on Itch or something, by the way? I don't do monthly payments as a general rule (though this is one of two games that I'd support if I did), but I'd definitely buy it if it were available for a one-time payment - even at this early point.

As far as Sarah's GMing goes, though... She could at least include a couple of twists about how the Princess was actually an evil witch, or something :( ! And even if she doesn't let us use the fun classes, she could at least let us use Power Attack if we're dealing with something with no AC :( !

No, I'm quite afraid I'm going to have to do the blackmail route to punish her for these sins against Pen and Paper... /shakes head sadly.

(Or just stick to VR. I mean, that was her first offer of shared fun, after all; aren't I the one to blame for asking her for another choice?)

EDIT: Oh, and thank you for responding, by the way! Whenever I offer feedback, I don't really expect a reply, since I'm really just offering a mountain of my own opinions, but... It's always nice to see when those impressions were helpful in some way :) .
 

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Do you have any plans on putting this up on Itch or something, by the way? I don't do monthly payments as a general rule (though this is one of two games that I'd support if I did), but I'd definitely buy it if it were available for a one-time payment - even at this early point.
On Patreon, you can do a one-off payment by pledging then cancelling your pledge the next day (Since Notty has pay-up-front enabled), that way you pay what you want and it's not recurring (unless you come back for more ;))
 

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On Patreon, you can do a one-off payment by pledging then cancelling your pledge the next day (Since Notty has pay-up-front enabled), that way you pay what you want and it's not recurring (unless you come back for more ;))
Mmm... That works, true, but that's not really what I'm looking for; among other things, it would still require me to sign up for a Patreon account that I would then never use again, which feels kind of rude towards their service.

What I'd prefer is to be able to pay, say, ten dollars for a chapter, which I would then be able to redownload in perpetuity whenever I want to replay the game - or maybe 60 dollars for the entire game at once, though that feels a bit frontloaded.

EDIT: Frontloaded for her, to be clear (since that would mean she wouldn't get future revenue), not frontloaded for me.
 
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This really is a game about making hard choices, isn't it :oops: .
Yep! :)

Do you have any plans on putting this up on Itch or something, by the way? I don't do monthly payments as a general rule (though this is one of two games that I'd support if I did), but I'd definitely buy it if it were available for a one-time payment - even at this early point.
Tbh I hadn't. I think part of the problem is I already feel I'm juggling quite a lot and H5 is pretty time intensive so spreading my wings further has sort of passed me by. Plus, no doubt, I'd make a mess of it :)

Maybe when I have more chapters done perhaps?


As far as Sarah's GMing goes, though... She could at least include a couple of twists about how the Princess was actually an evil witch, or something :( ! And even if she doesn't let us use the fun classes, she could at least let us use Power Attack if we're dealing with something with no AC :( !
To be fair to Sarah, she does try. Her next tabletop session will allow you to go shopping - and has no orcs in it...well almost no orcs...


(Or just stick to VR. I mean, that was her first offer of shared fun, after all; aren't I the one to blame for asking her for another choice?)
I like to think the player is always to blame for their choices. I merely give the player options... :)
 
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Yep! :)



Tbh I hadn't. I think part of the problem is I already feel I'm juggling quite a lot and H5 is pretty time intensive so spreading my wings further has sort of passed me by. Plus, no doubt, I'd make a mess of it :)

Maybe when I have more chapters done perhaps?



To be fair to Sarah, she does try. Her next tabletop session will allow you to go shopping - and has no orcs in it...well almost no orcs...



I like to think the player is always to blame for their choices. I merely give the player options... :)
Well now I expect to be attacked by an orc shopkeeper as soon as I enter his shop :ROFLMAO:
 

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On Patreon, you can do a one-off payment by pledging then cancelling your pledge the next day (Since Notty has pay-up-front enabled), that way you pay what you want and it's not recurring (unless you come back for more ;))
TNT, was there not an option to contribute on Notty's private forum or was that onlyfor the forum?
 
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Annie

Well, on the one hand, I do love her. She's funny, she's smart, she has great chemistry with the PC, and she'll kill anyone who messes with her friends. There's a lot to like.

But... At the same time, she's a conspiracy theorist, has a drinking problem, and appears to have issues following the chain of command.

As a player, I like her, and don't care about her issues - because they don't affect me. But through the eyes of the player character, I'd be frankly worried; things are already weird on Orphion. If a person predisposed to believe weird theories were to latch on to one of those oddities as proof that something nefarious was happening, and she wasn't willing to listen people with the authority to tell her to stop, what kind of consequences could that lead to? Even off of Orphion, I could see it going someplace bad.

And an engineer with a drinking problem just sounds like an invitation to problems - going off on a bender because you almost all died is fine. Empty bottles in the cargo hold and a warning from Chris that she has a habit of this kind of thing suggests she needs to cut back.

Chris

She's... Kind of extremely perfect? I mean, what's not to love? She's an amazing pilot with a strong sense of justice who looks out for her crew, and she darned well knows that she's perfect. If she existed in real life, I'd be tempted to try out women just so that I could date her.

That said, it really looks more like she's interested in friendship and a fling than a real relationship, so I don't really know how far I want to go with her. Flings are fun, but if there's a real relationship to be found with someone else, that feels like a waste. ...Even if it is a fling with Chris.

Sarah

I... Don't actually trust her, if I'm being honest. Not since looking through the files, and noticing the Flirt route that I'd missed. Oh, not in a "She's the one who sabotaged the spaceship!" way, to be clear - just in a garden-variety "She's deliberately trying to get on your good side by any means necessary" way. Which isn't a bad thing, per se, just a "How much of this is the real Rah-Rah" way.

I mean, I thought she was just a ditz with a penchant for technology and accidental innuendo, with a poor grasp of clothing - but seeing her flirt path, you see that she absolutely does understand what she's saying. So her "accidental" innuendo in other contexts - such as when she's talking about shaving her cat for charity - she absolutely knows what she's doing. Which, hey, I've done the same thing before, playing the innocent ditz so that others can have a laugh, but... I was still putting on an act so that others would have a better time. And if she's willing to do that here, it definitely makes me think that she knew her top was slipping in the other cases.

This is further reinforced in my mind when you see that she still leaps to invite you to VR no matter how horrid you're being to her, unless you outright attempt to blackmail her. For all of the other characters, you have to at least avoid being a total bitch to them - but she's willing to put up with any degree of abuse from you.

Maybe she's just being friendly, and has absolutely terrible self-esteem - but to my eye, it looks a lot more like she's about to be drummed out, and is desperate for a higher officer to put in a good word for her. Which isn't something I blame her for; it just makes me wonder about her sincerity.

That said, I still like her well enough when she's not DMing - even if it's an act, it's a good one. I just hope that I'll be able to push her onto a Research path later - she's smart, and (to oversimplify) you only have to get things right once there. Engineering, like Annie suggests, also plays well to her strengths, but I'd worry about a catastrophic accident if she spaced at the wrong moment. Her current position... Well, it doesn't play to any of her strengths that I can see, and I wonder how she ended up there.

Dr Jones

I don't really know what to say about her, honestly. She shows up, she dumps a big ton of personal drama on us, then disappears until Chapter 3 (I assume). I'd say I wonder which of them is more to blame, but I really don't - that's their problem to work out, so long as it doesn't affect anyone else.

Dr Jones

We really got off on the wrong foot. Not horribly so, but in definite "If our next interaction doesn't go better, I'll start to dislike you" territory. First he dumps a ton of personal drama onto us, then he's very insistent about our need for contraception (even if it is regulations, you don't have to be a dick about it!), then he blows off everyone else's research to brag about his own (which is admittedly impressive)... He's reallly not showing off any of his good points here. Except for being good at his job, which is appreciated.

But hey, he's not actually a bad guy or anything - he's willing to joke around a bit, and seems to have a conscience, so I get the impression that we can get along well enough so long as we're not talking about his colleagues. Just, a bit of a rough first day.

Though, it was totally fun to tell him that I thought it would be a fine idea to round up some ensigns to hunt Orphions for the good of humanity. Even on a non-total-bitch run I might be tempted to do that, just to be amused by his reaction (which should probably be a bigger affection hit, by the way).

Mike

I'm reminded of a puppy. A big, stupid puppy. I'm not entirely certain why - just because he seems befuddled by the current problem doesn't mean he's an idiot, and the other signs that he's not that great at his job aren't massive red flags either. Maybe the plant's just not having any other major issues, and that's why the cabinet is bare - and maybe the power logs are a "throw your hands up in the air and look at anything else that could be the cause!" kind of situation. Really, there's no strong reason for me to think he's an idiot.

Just... Something about him comes across as not very bright. And combined with his respect for you and your talent, just makes you think "puppy", at least for me.

Well, he's hot enough at least, so I could imagine a fling with him. I'm not really into dumb guys, though, so I kind of hope he's either brighter than he first appears, or that I have more options than him...

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I do not know if you did a male play through as well, but you do get sometimes very interesting information about the other characters based upon whom you play. It is not needed and me for example normally do never a female play through, but for this game I made an exception.

Considering Mike, according to his files he is no dummy, so what does that say about his character? (Now do not take me too seriously I am the founding member of the KillMikeKill club:p).
 
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Do all platforms charge VAT for subscribing to a dev now (or will do so soon)? If not, I'd appreciate that additional platforms were considered, as it would make a noticeable difference in the long run.
 
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The VAT thing depends on your location.
Yes, but I was wondering if other platforms were more lenient in what they consider as selling a product or giving a service.

Edit: Never mind, I see that she has already set it up so only a small fraction of the pledge is taxed. All is good under the sun!
 
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Tbh I hadn't. I think part of the problem is I already feel I'm juggling quite a lot and H5 is pretty time intensive so spreading my wings further has sort of passed me by. Plus, no doubt, I'd make a mess of it :)

Maybe when I have more chapters done perhaps?
Makes sense; Patreon is probably better for most people at this point anyway, since it's easier to get regular announcements there :) .

But as soon as it's up for sale somewhere (other than Steam), I'll be happy to buy a copy :) .


I like to think the player is always to blame for their choices. I merely give the player options... :)
Well, it's not as though I lacked fair warning... I should have expected a lack of plot and interesting NPCs as soon as she suggested Caverns of Creatures over Land of Dusk.

I do not know if you did a male play through as well, but you do get sometimes very interesting information about the other characters based upon whom you play. It is not needed and me for example normally do never a female play through, but for this game I made an exception.

Considering Mike, according to his files he is no dummy, so what does that say about his character? (Now do not take me too seriously I am the founding member of the KillMikeKill club:p).
I didn't, but I did see the other perspectives when I looked through the files (though I didn't retain it as well). Dr Jones gets kind of... Intense, for black men, doesn't she :ROFLMAO: ? Just looking at Chris's reaction makes me want to see what that scene looks like in-game, actually...

It was also interesting to see how much more I liked the romance(?) paths for fem!PC with Annie over the m!PC's - and how much more friendly competition fem!PC has with Chris, without any bets being brought up.
 
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Makes sense; Patreon is probably better for most people at this point anyway, since it's easier to get regular announcements there :) .

But as soon as it's up for sale somewhere (other than Steam), I'll be happy to buy a copy :) .




Well, it's not as though I lacked fair warning... I should have expected a lack of plot and interesting NPCs as soon as she suggested Caverns of Creatures over Land of Dusk.



I didn't, but I did see the other perspectives when I looked through the files (though I didn't retain it as well). Dr Jones gets kind of... Intense, for black men, doesn't she :ROFLMAO: ? Just looking at Chris's reaction makes me want to see what that scene looks like in-game, actually...

It was also interesting to see how much more I liked the romance(?) paths for fem!PC with Annie over the m!PC's - and how much more friendly competition fem!PC has with Chris, without any bets being brought up.
Well I think that how different Chris reacts to a male mc instead of female mc shows partly how deeply she is affected by the going on in her marriage and that she is way less perfect as she may seem on the outside. :) Also not sure if you ever read the Chadwick files, they were free on Patreon I think. :p

One of my personal suspicions though is that all three females have a bet going on over MC. :)
 

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Yes, but I was wondering if other platforms were more lenient in what they consider as selling a product or giving a service.
That is not Patreon but the EU nations and US states, it is just as Patreon got bigger, they took notice that Patreon and devs provided services that are taxable.
 

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Well I think that how different Chris reacts to a male mc instead of female mc shows partly how deeply she is affected by the going on in her marriage and that she is way less perfect as she may seem on the outside. :) Also not sure if you ever read the Chadwick files, they were free on Patreon I think. :p
Ah, no, I haven't seen the Chadwick Files yet. Is there a convenient link somewhere?

As far as her perfection goes, though... Nope, refusing to see it. She's absolutely perfect in every way!

...Joking aside, though, I think we're going to need way more information on their marriage before we can draw any strong conclusions. It could be something as innocuous as "They got married way too early in their relationship, and realized that they were ridiculously unsuited for each other in a long-term relationship; now they both do their own thing while staying together for tax reasons until they find what they want elsewhere - that doesn't stop Harris from being a bitch about dating her husband, though", or as serious as "Chris still hopes to reconcile with her husband, and refuses to really cheat on him (in her eyes) - but "pets" aren't cheating, and they agreed long ago that she could go after as many women as she liked. She has yet to realize herself that she gave up on reconciling long ago, with a constant stream of 'distractions' left in her wake.". So far as I know, all we really know is that she has a burning hatred of Harris, and Annie believes that whatever happened with her husband cheating has lead her to go "all amazon".

One of my personal suspicions though is that all three females have a bet going on over MC. :)
Chris: [glancing at her datapad, confirming that Harris has been switched out with Cooper] "We've gone two days without sleep to get this ship ready; let's liven things up with a bet to keep us on our toes. Whoever gets furthest with the Lieutenant by the time we return to the Intrepid gets to do whatever they want with the other two for a full day."

Annie: [She must have forgot who the self-loading cargo is! All I need is a hug - I've got this in the bag!] "Sounds great! Just don't cry too much when you see the bill at the all-you-can-drink buffet..."

Sarah: [I'm likable! Chris is too aggressive, and Annie too rude - if the Lieutenant is a normal person, I can win this! And it's a great excuse to spend more time with someone who can save my career.] "We're counting miles spent showing them around the base, right? This will be an easy win for me! Count me in!"

[Lieutenant shows up, and Annie swears]

Annie: (Okay, okay, I can still win this. Chris might be better with women than I am, but we're both engineers - I can use this. I'll just... Break a couple of connectors on the backup systems, and ask for her help fixing them once we're on the ground. We're not going to need those, and I'll blame it on a harsh re-entry or something. A few more hours together in cramped quarters should let me cop a feel or something to win the bet)

Chris: (With the ship still struggling, I can have Annie spend all her times on repair, while having Sarah spend more time behind the console - it'll look good on both their records, while I spend all the time with the prey. I'll need to see to departure and docking, but other than that, I just need to be there long enough to look professional... Perfect.)

Sarah, alone: (Damn it, I didn't think I'd spend the entire trip on the bridge! I'm never going to get enough time together to ask her to join me for VR while making it look natural, and she's probably already agreed to spend that time drinking with Annie! I know they're going to spend all the rest of their time on the base working! Time for desperate measures to ensure we're on the planet long enough to spend some time together...) "SONYA, run Catastrophe.exe in one hour for me please." "Of course, Mistress of the Blue."

[Everyone, on the ground after the disaster]

Chorus: I have no idea how this could have happened!

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...So you're saying that something like that happened, then :) ? Yeah, I can see it.

(Apologies for butchering the character's voices!)
 

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For Chris I was more thinking of the fact that a just as friendly male MC does not get invited to drinks, while Chris is looking for a friend. Chadwick files there should be a copy on Notty's own forum I think but have no quick link myself.

The bet who knows, it does sound like the Swiss cheese that could happen and is not impossible with those ladies. :ROFLMAO:
 

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For Chris I was more thinking of the fact that a just as friendly male MC does not get invited to drinks, while Chris is looking for a friend. Chadwick files there should be a copy on Notty's own forum I think but have no quick link myself.

The bet who knows, it does sound like the Swiss cheese that could happen and is not impossible with those ladies. :ROFLMAO:
Mmm... I guess I interpreted that a bit differently. Both times that Chris asks fem!PC out for drinks, it seemed pretty clear to me that she's looking for something more physical even if the drinks themselves don't immediately go in that direction. On the ship, she was already flirting with you at multiple points in the conversation, while on the ground, she explicitly links it to the talk of whether you're interested in women or not.
 
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Mmm... I guess I interpreted that a bit differently. Both times that Chris asks fem!PC out for drinks, it seemed pretty clear to me that she's looking for something more physical even if the drinks themselves don't immediately go in that direction. On the ship, she was already flirting with you at multiple points in the conversation, while on the ground, she explicitly links it to the talk of whether you're interested in women or not.
Maybe cause your MC was flirty, besides the male MC can be pretty flirty as well and even make Chris blush later on. :) still no invites for drinks. Though I might overthink that part admittedly, but when I first played female MC after having played male mc for the first three chapter of original and first run of remake it really stood out.
 

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Maybe cause your MC was flirty, besides the male MC can be pretty flirty as well and even make Chris blush later on. :) still no invites for drinks. Though I might overthink that part admittedly, but when I first played female MC after having played male mc for the first three chapter of original and first run of remake it really stood out.
Mmm, well, the flirty moments that stand out to me are if the fem!PC talks about boxing (which inspires Chris to fish for a compliment), and when you talk about Mia (where the PC gets to add her own thoughts on Mia's breasts after Chris comments). Without either of those (and I think you may have to respond in a way that makes her think you're interested in order to get the points, now that I think about it) I don't think fem!PC has the affection points to get invited to drinks - I don't think the other conversation options have an influence on affection either way (except to tick her off by criticizing her crew).

Incidentally, the lead in to either of those doesn't strike me as especially flirty from the PC's end - it's just making casual conversation, really, talking about her hobby and talking about a magazine lying around. The PC opens the door admittedly, but Chris is the one who takes it there.

I think it's pretty much the same as with m!PC, actually - it's just that in his case, his only option is to do the boxing, with the magazine just being an interesting story.
 
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