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When i see that notification on patreon that there's a message from Notty there's a little part of me that still naively gets excited. It unfortunately gets stamped on each and every time.
 
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professorx10

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That’s all there is my friend. Don’t bother waiting around….last update was over a year ago…..remaster of remaster…..much delayed….over promised and under delivered.
No...to be fair...and accurate, I believe the last update was exactly a year ago, this month. ...with the next update planned/promised by December...which became January...then February then....

but I think you get the point by now.

This game should have been marked 'Abandoned' but it hasn't been. Just a year of hints that 'its almost ready' and nothing comes out...ever. It's been frustrating.
 
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No...to be fair...and accurate, I believe the last update was exactly a year ago, this month. ...with the next update planned/promised by December...which became January...then February then....

but I think you get the point by now.

This game should have been marked 'Abandoned' but it hasn't been. Just a year of hints that 'its almost ready' and nothing comes out...ever. It's been frustrating.
Yes, like waiting for Star Citizen :). Notty seems to be a perfectionist like Chris Roberts, having trouble with something just "Good enough". But its her game and as long as she pauses her patreon when she is not on schedule (what few other devs here do) we have little grounds to complain. And there are plenty of other games here to keep you occupied while you wait.
 

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Yes, like waiting for Star Citizen :). Notty seems to be a perfectionist like Chris Roberts, having trouble with something just "Good enough". But its her game and as long as she pauses her patreon when she is not on schedule (what few other devs here do) we have little grounds to complain. And there are plenty of other games here to keep you occupied while you wait.
I am just curious, how much time should it pass for guys like you to say: "Hmm, maybe she should change her mind", another year? 5 years? 10? 20?
 

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I am just curious, how much time should it pass for guys like you to say: "Hmm, maybe she should change her mind", another year? 5 years? 10? 20?
Waiting for someone else to create something is a pretty passive thing. Definitely would prefer faster development time, but it is not like we are not used to waiting for several years between seasons of TV shows these days, and that is a whole massive team instead of a single indie developer.

The stranger thing than someone who is consuming media they are a fan of waiting for it to come out patiently is the people who actively watch it just to make sure that it is not coming out so they can tell other people they are stupid for being patient about it. What do people gain from constantly letting everyone who is a fan know that they do not think it is worth waiting for?

Is it that important to you to be right about a game not being finished, a prediction that would be right more often than not anyway? It is not like you guys are out here correctly predicting the super bowl on day 1 of the season. Would you pat yourself on the back for predicting that it was going to snow in December?

Would you would rather be right about something that was always more likely than have people enjoy something? Especially considering the relentless negativity is not just pointlessly predicting a common occurrence, it actively makes dev less likely to want to work on their projects.
 

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Waiting for someone else to create something is a pretty passive thing. Definitely would prefer faster development time, but it is not like we are not used to waiting for several years between seasons of TV shows these days, and that is a whole massive team instead of a single indie developer.

The stranger thing than someone who is consuming media they are a fan of waiting for it to come out patiently is the people who actively watch it just to make sure that it is not coming out so they can tell other people they are stupid for being patient about it. What do people gain from constantly letting everyone who is a fan know that they do not think it is worth waiting for?

Is it that important to you to be right about a game not being finished, a prediction that would be right more often than not anyway? It is not like you guys are out here correctly predicting the super bowl on day 1 of the season. Would you pat yourself on the back for predicting that it was going to snow in December?

Would you would rather be right about something that was always more likely than have people enjoy something? Especially considering the relentless negativity is not just pointlessly predicting a common occurrence, it actively makes dev less likely to want to work on their projects.
Wow buddy, I just asked a question cause I thought even people like him (and you, now) have some kind of limit on their patience.
 

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Wow buddy, I just asked a question cause I thought even people like him (and you, now) have some kind of limit on their patience.
Well then to directly answer your question:

I have nearly unlimited patience for creative people who are putting in a lot of work to create media that I like in their free time and with their own resources.

I have very little patience for people who are contributing nothing but like to crap all over those who are.

That is not directed at you specifically here, just in general for the many people in this thread and others who think being able to freely download someone else's work makes them entitled to constantly whine about devs for not producing fast enough whenever anyone mentions news on the project, or who are somehow pleased with themselves for pointing out delays that everyone is already well aware of if they are subscribed to this thread.
 

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Well then to directly answer your question:

I have nearly unlimited patience for creative people who are putting in a lot of work to create media that I like in their free time and with their own resources.

I have very little patience for people who are contributing nothing but like to crap all over those who are.

That is not directed at you specifically here, just in general for the many people in this thread and others who think being able to freely download someone else's work makes them entitled to constantly whine about devs for not producing fast enough whenever anyone mentions news on the project, or who are somehow pleased with themselves for pointing out delays that everyone is already well aware of if they are subscribed to this thread.
Well, if you think so then you need to understand that people, with time, will lose interest in the game, she already knows that she is taking too much time so if you add being less and less people around here (f95, forums, discord, whatever...) and more inactivity in general, to her personal frustration, it will take the game to this point we are now (frustration).

My prediction is that it will never be completed, but not because it will be abandoned no, just because there will always be something that could be better than before so she will work in a loop until something make her change in the future. (Hell, I am still waiting for a post saying that she will animate the entire game, that would be funny)
 
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Well, if you think so then you need to understand that (...)
I'm don't really get why some people feel that others need to understand their predicted model of people getting frustrated and blah blah blah. Like, honestly, even if you're right, why do folks "need to understand that?" Your opinions and predictions aren't that vital, dude.

My prediction is that (...)
The hilarious thing is that this post comes in response to another poster who explained, lucidly why they (and others who're waiting patiently for the game) dgaf about other peoples' doomerism. They also specifically said they weren't calling you out in particular, but of course you had to then make exactly the type of post JSimon was talking about. And, sorry to be the one to tell you friendo, but regarding your "prediction?" Right or wrong,
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But thanks for sharing!
 

bertaheinrichkurt

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Wow buddy, I just asked a question cause I thought even people like him (and you, now) have some kind of limit on their patience.
As far as I am concerned: its not like I am standing in a queue an can't be somewhere else during the wait. And what would happen when my patience reaches the limit? Refusing to play the game when the next chapter is released? Would that be relevant?

In my opinion "loosing patience" means that I am waiting on something I am entitled to have. But I don't have the feeling I am entitled to anything here, notty is not obliged to spent her time devloping a game for me. So my patience here is unlimited, if it gets released I am happy, if not its sad and thats it.
 

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I'm don't really get why some people feel that others need to understand their predicted model of people getting frustrated and blah blah blah. Like, honestly, even if you're right, why do folks "need to understand that?" Your opinions and predictions aren't that vital, dude.



The hilarious thing is that this post comes in response to another poster who explained, lucidly why they (and others who're waiting patiently for the game) dgaf about other peoples' doomerism. They also specifically said they weren't calling you out in particular, but of course you had to then make exactly the type of post JSimon was talking about. And, sorry to be the one to tell you friendo, but regarding your "prediction?" Right or wrong,
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But thanks for sharing!
My opinion and predictions stopped being so long time along, now they are facts that people here dont want to accept.

Oh, and maybe I wrote that kind of prediction, hear me out, maybe... because this forum offer me the option to say what I want if its in their rules? Just like you telling me that no one cares about it, free speech is amazing dude.

As far as I am concerned: its not like I am standing in a queue an can't be somewhere else during the wait. And what would happen when my patience reaches the limit? Refusing to play the game when the next chapter is released? Would that be relevant?



In my opinion "loosing patience" means that I am waiting on something I am entitled to have. But I don't have the feeling I am entitled to anything here, notty is not obliged to spent her time devloping a game for me. So my patience here is unlimited, if it gets released I am happy, if not its sad and thats it.
If you dont like it, you could talk to her personally if you are a patreon or on her forum that I think its free, idk.

Maybe you should know that she already charges a few months this year, so she isnt working for free, and you still think she is not obliged to spent her time on it? This behavior is exactly why this game is taking so long...
 
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Oh, and maybe I wrote that kind of prediction, hear me out, maybe... because this forum offer me the option to say what I want if its in their rules? Just like you telling me that no one cares about it, free speech is amazing dude.
Funny that you mention the rules. Let's look at rule 2.7 " Avoid excessive discussion about development. Talking about developers is fine, but derailing the game discussion with multiple pages of the same arguments concerning development speed, delays, pricing, etc is not "
 
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