There have been tons of details and previews on the content. On Notty's patreon, forum and discord.
A misleading information. You make it sound like 2 years have been spent reworking just this chapter instead of the entire game. And it's not just "quite different", it's totally different. And much better.
Wow, this game is 30 month old!! It has to be finished! A good Renpy game is finished in 2-3-4-5-6-10years??? < 2Years!!! This is my thought and this game has after 2,5 Years under 25%! Not that the Dev is lazy, he is the opposite of lazy and makes a really good work! And he knows what he does, he has a lot of skills and makes good work: The problem is: The Dev makes the game structure so complicated that a single Dev without help needs 6-10 years to finish this game!! Thats too much, every renpy game should be finished after 3 years! Who wanna wait 6-10 years? Is it not a bit toooo long???
I am not on Notty's Patreon or discord. I am only able to report what we know here. There is very little detail here on the contents, other than it has changed from the initial release version.
I have not mislead anyone and I don't appreciate those accusations. The member asked about Chapter 4 and I replied with what is known about Chapter 4. Other chapters are irrelevant to what was asked. As far as the difference between "Quite Different" and "Totally Different", that's just splitting hairs. If you wish to use "Totally Different", that's fine. I wouldn't know since nothing was ever released. All we have to go on here, are rumors and speculation.
Well maybe phrasing "what I know" instead of "what is known" would be better?
Oh, I'm not accusing you. I'm not saying you are trying to mislead intentionally. The thing I object to is that someone might get a false impression from you that there's very little work being done on the game.
To be honest, a renpy game should be finished afer 2,5 years or 30 month. Most top tier games like depraved awakening and much others didnt need moore than 1.5 years!!
Can you post a link to a game you have developed? Genuinely curious here.
You mean the games from devs that get buttloads of money thrown their way,. Of course they're gonna be faster with rocket fueled computers. She's a struggling dev on her first game having to work with limitations.
I have no game developed, I only started learning and mostly because I wanna cheat for better stats and no grinding. All I saw its a was lot of work. When you wanna some renpy help I am the wrong person, my skills are low. And its not only renpy, you need good pics and animations. Thats the next problem. When you really want some help, ask some people with more experience. After 2 Month I am not very experienced.
Ahhh. For me personally, I don't mind long dev cycles if there is a constant stream of content (legitimate sized updates... not a new item or a a few lines of dialogue). Some games are great and you just want more and more of those games. However, I have supported people in the past who drag out updates and that made me much more cautious about supporting devs who follow that pattern. It's too easy for those types of projects to become money pits with little to show for the investment.
I don't think a person needs to have developed anything in order to criticize how long a game takes to be released. Most people are not writers, yet many have come to the consensus that Game of Thrones: the Winds of Winter, is taking too long to release. That being said, personally, I avoid criticizing developers for failing to release a product, if I don't support them. After all, it's not my money on the line so I'm not annoyed by it. But, telling people that they can't say anything unless they have experience in the field seems silly to me.
Well he did bring up he's learning Renpy and also mentions what 'A good game dev' in his mind should be so I reckon he's speaking on the perspective of a fellow game dev. And what better way to critique a dev's capabilities than having a go at one of the games they have developed right? That is what you're doing here after all.
Yes, there has been some news over at Notty's forum; she's trying to get it out by the end of the month.
The mass of "it is not all that bad" contributions here, makes me suspect that maybe something is really not going so well right now.
I haven't suspected that anything hasn't been going well. If someone told me the game would be out in 2023 I'd be like "ok, cool, I'll check back then."
Something did indeed happen, here's the latest news from Notty on her forum
There is also the case of the heatwave that threatened to blow up her computer once again.
Funny, we were talking about that on our private chat and a few of us decided to not give estimates anymore. Having been one of the latest to give an estimate I thought correct based on what I knew at the time which ended up being wrong I now see your point and feel sorry for giving false hope when I don't have all the informations at hand.
