Ren'Py Abandoned Heavy Five [Ch.2RS] [Nottravis]

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

Yeah, and I still think it is very well written, the characters are interesting (apart, perhaps, from the over the top fight between the husband and wife in chapter two), world building is fleshed out and believable and the mystery itself is enticing. This could probably work as a non porn game and that makes it a rare gem indeed in this genre.

But as for my criticism of the size of the MC:s dick, it still stands. The lazy rendering in my view, is not taking relative objects size into account. So, for instance, in the blow job scene with Annie, you can compare the dick with her face, as it is more or less perfectly lined up (we shouldn't experience any distortion based on one object being closer to the "camera" than the other). The average length of a womans face, from the point of the chin to the hairlline is about 7 inches. That means that had the cock been 7 inches, it should have been the same lenght as Annies face. But is it? No, not even close. Instead, the dick is about two thirds of Annies face, when taken into account that her mouth is open and her face therefore elongated. That would instead put the dick around slightly longer than 4 inches. Substantially smaller than the male average. And girth-wise (the thing women typically care more about), it feels correspondingly thin.

The other scenes are harder to gauge, since it's not exactly clear how close to each other different body parts are, but I get the same feeling from them.

As for going from flaccid to erect, I think it would look better if there were other differences between semi-flaccid and erect state other than size. Now, the fully erect dick look exactly the same as the semi flaccid dick, only bigger. Most cocks don't just grow, they change shape and look (for instance, going from pudgy to taut, changing colour and/or growing more prominent veins). But that's a minor detail compared to the MC having smalish genitalia.

I'm intrigued by your vast knowledge of cocks... maybe the lieutenant's shaft doesn't change enough for your liking because he's drunk

 

[sabadongelov]

I'm intrigued by your vast knowledge of cocks... maybe the lieutenant's shaft doesn't change enough for your liking because he's drunk

I'm more intrigued by people who can spend an inordinate amount of time looking at cocks and still learn nothing about them...

Being drunk might affect your ability to "get it up", but it would hardly affect how your penis looks. Not that it matters. I wouldn't care about it at all had the MC grown as would be expected given what size he's supposed to be.

 

[Akamari]

But as for my criticism of the size of the MC:s dick, it still stands. The lazy rendering in my view, is not taking relative objects size into account. So, for instance, in the blow job scene with Annie, you can compare the dick with her face, as it is more or less perfectly lined up (we shouldn't experience any distortion based on one object being closer to the "camera" than the other). The average length of a womans face, from the point of the chin to the hairlline is about 7 inches. That means that had the cock been 7 inches, it should have been the same lenght as Annies face. But is it? No, not even close. Instead, the dick is about two thirds of Annies face, when taken into account that her mouth is open and her face therefore elongated. That would instead put the dick around slightly longer than 4 inches. Substantially smaller than the male average. And girth-wise (the thing women typically care more about), it feels correspondingly thin.

That just doesn't feel right to me. If you look at the scene where the actual blowjob takes place in closeup (not the before or after), account for the head not being visible, compare it to her face it's nowhere as short. If we assume her face is 7 inches like you say, account for the head not being visible and her mouth being wide open and compare it, I'd say it's about 6. Is her head 7 inches? I can't tell, can be more.

Anyway, I wouldn't classify it as small at all. Average I guess. But, I concede I'm not an expert. I don't have an interest in watching dicks nor taking measurements. For me, it's acceptable. What I don't like are oversized dicks many other games have.

As for going from flaccid to erect, I think it would look better if there were other differences between semi-flaccid and erect state other than size. Now, the fully erect dick look exactly the same as the semi flaccid dick, only bigger. Most cocks don't just grow, they change shape and look (for instance, going from pudgy to taut, changing colour and/or growing more prominent veins). But that's a minor detail compared to the MC having smalish genitalia.

The standard is pretty much to just go toof and show an erect dick and be done with it. I don't recall other games that would even attempt to show the erection process. It's asking too much in my opinion.

 

[KillerKlown]

Who?

The only person that has done anything sexual is the MC and Annie. Chris has flirted, that is all. Sarah hasn't been touched by anyone.

She kissed Sarah.

The problem with this is that it's a much more obvious and, if the creator is going this route, immortal and illegal act that causes more conflict of interest than fucking a subrodinite in a different department, rather than a mainline directly working under you officer.

 

[Akamari]

She kissed Sarah.

The problem with this is that it's a much more obvious and, if the creator is going this route, immortal and illegal act that causes more conflict of interest than fucking a subrodinite in a different department, rather than a mainline directly working under you officer.

Look again, she didn't actually kiss her. It's just her flirting. It's what she does for fun. She is very mission focused and wouldn't do anything that would endanger the mission. The MC on the other had... I wouldn't trust that bastard to hold my coat.

 

[RDObj]

That's an issue with the unofficial compressed version. Try the standard version instead.

FYI - Scrumbles posted a fix here that seems to fix this so people can still use the compressed - maybe someone could amend either the top page to note the fix or get it included in the compressed version

 

[laflare82]

So if Im understanding correctly I'm on both Ann and Sarah Romance talking with Sarah her Top is falling off she doesn't notice if I tell her I lose Affection with Ann shouldn't Ann be Happy that I wasn't Perving another women right in front of her with all the flirting we been doing this makes no sense

 

[Akamari]

FYI - Scrumbles posted a fix here that seems to fix this so people can still use the compressed - maybe someone could amend either the top page to note the fix or get it included in the compressed version

If it works, which I can't confirm, you can notify one of the mods to put it up there.

 

[Akamari]

So if Im understanding correctly I'm on both Ann and Sarah Romance talking with Sarah her Top is falling off she doesn't notice if I tell her I lose Affection with Ann shouldn't Ann be Happy that I wasn't Perving another women right in front of her with all the flirting we been doing this makes no sense

Walkthrough eh? This is a little thing. You don't need to get all the points to progress. The game is designed not to be played with a walkthrough.

You lose affection, because you're on the first name basis with Sarah. Too friendly too quickly perhaps for Annie? It's not hidden, she says it to you.

 

[KillerKlown]

Look again, she didn't actually kiss her. It's just her flirting. It's what she does for fun. She is very mission focused and wouldn't do anything that would endanger the mission. The MC on the other had... I wouldn't trust that bastard to hold my coat.

She's has demerits for sexual harassment though

 

[KillerKlown]

Outside of this, how do you get Chris to agree to 'train' you

 

[trdx]

Come on now... I'm interested in the "training" but it shouldn't stop me from having any other fun... I'm a freaking engineer, I should be able to solve the "problem" whenever I want, without anyone noticing afterwards...

 

[tontoman]

Outside of this, how do you get Chris to agree to 'train' you

There's a walkthrough if you want all the points. But generally as you'd guess just make sure to talk to her fully in scenes and pick what you think would work. The one hard switch though, is pick Ann's solution for saving the ship, and before going outside squeeze that breast.

 

[johnconnor]

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Your memory is in sideways. That's your problem. You're only able to use one-quarter of it the way you have it installed.

 

[johnconnor]

1) Are there aliens?

2) Can I fuck them?

1. Yes.

2. Probably, but not as of Ch 2.

 

[johnconnor]

For example, in the game files, you can find pics of Annie under looking for something under her station. I played the first chapter a lot of times and still didn't find out how to play this scene. (Nottravis already mentioned it was a really difficult scene to stumble upon, so I don't think it was unused files)

*sighs, fires up just one more playthrough to find undiscovered story*

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Massively busy so will reply in full later, although one thing seemed to require an immediate response for clarity.

@sabadongelov Thank you for your review and glad you find the characters interesting. I note that you amended your review based on the following observation.

Interesting and very well written so far, both the mystery and the dialogue. Renders look nice and characters seem to have distinct personalities. Also, hints at very different routes (where you seem to be able to go down a pretty dark path if you so choose) is also a big plus. Good story building too. All in all, a very promising game!

EDIT: Above review was based on the first chapter. I have now played chapter 2 and gotten to the sex scenes. I guess they are ok from a rendering point of view, but there's one thing that really ruins it for me, and that's the dick-size of the MC. He's actually smaller than average. In some scenes he looks down right tiny, allthough maybe that's supposed to represent him not being completely erect (since he does look a little bit bigger further on, then again, not being hard when getting a hand job is kind of difficult to believe, as he prior to that got hard just from recieving hugs).

And I guess, if you want to make a game for people who get off on small dicks or maybe even small penis humiliation, then who am I to say anything about it (though I wouldn't play the game)? But there's nothing in the game to suggest that this is what is intended. Instead, one of the women even complements the MC on how big his cock is, despite being anything but. Another woman complains about her husband being small penis-wise, elaborating that she wants someone more masculine. So, instead of an intentionall fetish, it looks more like lazy rendering (the penis being different sizes also suggest as much), which for me lowers the quality of the game substantially.

Just to clarify your initial thoughts were indeed correct. The penis is growing as the MC gets more aroused. So it starts semi-flacid, grows by the second stage of the hand job and is considerably bigger by the blowjob scene. Erect he is seven inches. So in this case the opposite of lazy rendering, as staging and posing the growing erection took longer than just letting it spring out on the fly. So, no this is not a SPH game.

Thank you

Not sure what the expectation of an "average" penis size is. I know a lot of men believe myths about penis size, both flaccid and erect. Porn games tend to perpetuate this misunderstanding. I find nothing wrong with games having large / abnormally large / ludicrously large penis sizes (though sometimes they are laughably huge), but I find it funny that people complain if the thing isn't a half a meter long.

For the record, regardless of your preferences in your entertainment, irl the size is generally in the ballpark of what @Nottravis has rendered:

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. Nobody should feel "humiliated" by having a smaller dick; it's just basic biology.

 

[Akamari]

She's has demerits for sexual harassment though

That were not proven. It could be that she just did her flirting thing that was badly percieved and reported. Up to you, but I honor the presumption of innocence.

 

[DA22]

That were not proven. It could be that she just did her flirting thing that was badly percieved and reported. Up to you, but I honor the presumption of innocence.

Some people do protest a bit and defend her too much it seems to me, even if I do like Chris myself as well. Annie has a history of hard drinking so the chance she will not be able to work hard and fulfill her duties next day are pretty low. She might be even better at them since more relaxed. She is on off time and not active duty at the moment she drank and went to room with MC. Did look to me like Chris might well have been a bit jealous, only question is of whom , you really think she walked dressed in like that just for a comm's officer?

 

[Akamari]

Some people do protest a bit and defend her too much it seems to me, even if I do like Chris myself as well. Annie has a history of hard drinking so the chance she will not be able to work hard and fulfill her duties next day are pretty low. She might be even better at them since more relaxed. She is on off time and not active duty at the moment she drank and went to room with MC. Did look to me like Chris might well have been a bit jealous, only question is of whom , you really think she walked dressed in like that just for a comm's officer?

I'm just trying to balance things out as some seem to make judgements too quickly without much ground. Chris is not perfect of course, they all have their flaws, as all humans should. Good point about the dress. I think she had that more to tease the lieutenant than anything else.

As for Annie, we'll see. Somehow I don't think she'll be very fresh next morning.