Ren'Py Heavy Five [Ch.2RS] [Nottravis]

[Huitieme]

I'll answer remaining posts tomorrow now I'm afraid, I got carried away on the smut-fun train!

 

[tehcatsmiaw]

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd here we go.
*begs the mods forgiveness for doing lots of posts and hope they understand why as I have a lot to try to respond to...*



Well...she might have a valid point...*coughs...*



Damn... you're bang on the nose with this one. Which is worrying in a way as obviously my character flaws are somewhat too obvious! But...sensible words and I've taken them to heart. Honest. With me handing all the patrons their cash back I'm not releasing Chapter Three until June now anyway which, not only makes things tidy from a financial cut off perspective, but also gives me a bit more time to recover. I promise I'll be good.



What that fool Martin doesn't know is Chapter Three is already finished! Mwahahahahhahah!



Thankees! And the clip made me smile



There was a difference in her response... annnnnnnnnnd..........



Different branches open up
There was also originally a mini-game in there (hence why that scene seems really short) but I didn't like it and so took it out. Mini-games are a bugger to do well it seems! (i.e. not to make a pointless frustration)




There are a lot of ways to fuck things up in Three. It really is where the game (for those who want the complicated plots) starts getting its act together....


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Thank you and I am sooo sorry for any concern caused.
Believe me when I say I was equally fretting about my lack of comms. We've all seen vanishing Devs before and so it wasn't terribly hard to imagine what was being said/thought. I'm also aware it's no doubt done a shit-ton of reputational damage to me but square root of sod-all I can do about it sadly other than give everyone their cash back and try to start again.

*goes to do another post*

is that malena morgan in the gif ? that girl was amazing and she was probably my favorite pornstar at that time. almost went into depression when she retired without doing and b/g contet. there was something about her that made her so damn hot. RIP malena lmao

 

[nvts]

her retirement was funny b/c she called about a bunch of other girls for not washing themselves before scenes

 

[Nottravis]

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can someone add those to the OP ?

On reflection I won't pop Mia up. She's only in BP (so far) and I don't want to mislead anyone.

 

[Nottravis]

While it's not 'Sexual Harassment /Assault' (an Article 120 infraction) it might either be seen as a violation of Article 120c ('Other sexual misconduct'), Article 130 ('Housebreaking') or combination of both (Art. 130 with the intent of Art. 120c).

I won't elaborate to not clog this thread but if you're interested: GIYF

Although I would go after her for an Art. 89 ('Disrespectful behavior') violation if I absolutely had to. But as it's not me I guess the MC will find other ways to handle her / the situation

Oh there a lots of ways to take what happened forward....

It might be worth pointing out that the "bad end" in chapter Two isn't. It merely opens new branches *wiggles eyebrows*

The author is the typing this up and there were other ways to go about 'want to wait for a sex scene until more character devolpment' or 'add tension between the three characters'

As it is now it doesn't make sense.

As to the other quote: Yeah WHEN IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY MISSION. This isn't, according to the orders. Obviously more is going on, but from what's presented to Chris, us and Ann, she lacks authority here to disrupt us. It's her duty to report, sure, but I mentioned that. But why would anyone care what a suspected sex pest who has been bumped down to shit duty thinks? As far as command knows, it might have been the opposite way around.

I get what the creator was doing btw: It's too early in the game for a sex scene in a plot heavy game and she needs a wrench to throw between the three characters; that would have happened during the actual drinking session or he could have had Ann fall alseep or a dozen combintions. As it is now, it's weird the characters wouldn't flex on Chris or that would she even attempt what she did with her record, even if it's bullshit.

Thank you for your thoughts - and I apologise it's taken me a while to get back to you on this due to illness on my part.

Obviously we have different views of whether the scene hangs together - and that's fine. Neither of us will convince each other of the others position on this of course as it's somewhat subjective. It helps of course that I have insider knowledge on all the characters motivations

But as to points in question, the mission is ranked as a high level security one which would to my mind make it a high priority mission. Given the context of sorting out the mess on an isolated station (repairs and supplies etc) would lend weight to that, but I could have made this clearer in retrospect, so thank you for that. I'll be more careful on that sort of thing going forward.

As to Chadwick's record, of course she's still in post so it would seem no cases were proven. Which could mean nothing or could indeed mean a lot. Far too early for me to say on that one for plot reasons of course.

But the reactions of Annie and Chris to that scene are rational for them I assure you. The MC has only known these people for less than a day and there is a lot about both of them that aren't yet known. Although, Chris did drop two remarks in two seperate scenes that perhaps Annie isn't as reliable as one would like...

Clearly, Annie needs a field promotion so everyone can bone whoever they want.

Trouble is Annie keeps getting busted down in rank...

I could not agree more. We should completely forget about all the naughty content in this game, take a hard right turn and make it an exciting "Sexual Harassment" Court Room Drama instead.

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"Lieutenant, i am reminding you that you are under Oath. So did you or did you not order the "CODE BOOB"? ANSWER THE GOD-DAMNED QUESTION!"



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*giggles despite herself*

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That was a lovely tangent. *approves*

I saw the Patreon post when she made it - 18 days ago on April 1. I have two daughters - when one contacts me more than once every couple months I worry, and when the other doesn't contact me for more than a week I worry. I don't doubt they can take care of themselves, it's just a change in their communication pattern that worries me. Which is why I'm worried about Notty now.

It's not rational, and having only her online comms via Patreon and here to go by, not overly indicative of her true, IRL communication style. Still, I worry.

Sorry, Notty, for cyber-parenting.

*sighs*

Obviously there are a whole load of posts like this, and so for brevity just picked one but...

...I really am very sorry for the silence. I expected to come back to lots of "Dev has done a runner" type things, I didn't expect I would have caused you all so much concern. I feel awful about it and I wish I'd had the wit to come up with a way of dropping you all a line.

*indulges in small guilt trip before doing another block of posts*

 

[Nottravis]

If anyone here knows Notty IRL - could you check in with her? Getting a little worried for her.

I hope to hell no one here does know me IRL!

Hi @Nottravis!

I'm currently halfway chapter 1, and so far, enjoying the story a lot!! I can see the attention that went into it. I have two very minor nitpicks, that I'm only sharing because you seem to go for a very realistic setting.

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Keep rocking!

Hi! Thanks for these and I'm glad you've enjoyed the game so far. My apologies for the delay in responding due to an unexpected bout of illness. But that's a long and boring story.

You're absolutely right on both counts of course. It was more of a design/stylistic choice on my part in that I thought Celsius would be more familiar to the player than Kelvin. As to Pan vs Mayday, again you're totes on the mark, it was just that Pan Pan somehow came across better on screen than Mayday. (I'm putting it down as cannon that Sarah screwed up in the heat of the moment)

Got round to playing chapter 2. Still loving the story and feel of the game.

Still no sex for 'my guy', at the end I got 'You didn't' on all but one. Not sure if that's good or bad.

I'm glad you're still enjoying it. The end results scores on the doors are more a hint to the player of potential scenes they've missed rather than a victory point total as there are a lot of routes which may not be apparent. It's my crude way of flagging their existence.

So...good or bad. I suppose the ultimate answer is if you're happy with how your character is influencing the story, then it's good

Battlestar Galactica vibe.

I'll wait for a couple more chapters to come out but looks interesting.

I'll confess new BSG was a heavy design influence.

Not quite. That's like the MC being required to give his spanner to Chris.

A passenger should never authority over the flight crew regardless of his rank.


It's her ship for this mission. We don't know the standard crew roster of the Vanguard, so there may be someone of higher rank assigned as the commanding officer, but in this instance it is her ship.

Totally this.

There is just no way to know. Depends entirely on the orders which we have not seen yet. Could be that she is the mission commander and he is the mission specialist. That would mean she is in charge. But could also be that it's his mission and the flight crew have been ordered to support the mission (in essence: To be the Taxi), which would put him in Charge.

Also: The Mission often overrides seniority. Sometimes even an NCO can be in charge of Officers, if that's what the mission requires. That is often the case during Training. For example the USNavy SEAL NCOs conducting Basic Underwater Demolition and Seal Training are in charge of Officers undergoing the course despite being technically outranked. (They are of course still relatively polite)



By that logic the President should give the Nuclear Briefcase to the Pilot everytime he boards Airforce One. Also, just because someone is the Pilot doesn't mean it's his ship.

That doesn't really prove anything because:
1) They are the same rank
2) MC is not under her command (unlike Annie)
3) depending on the orders they had, MC could actually be superior officer while on the station (she's superior while on board Vanguad)

Basically, I'm not sure Chris have any authority to do anything to MC other than report him to their superiors... which she can't even do at the moment due to communications being down (that's if she's willing to do that since it would also create a problem for Annie).

Article 40 of the UCMJ:
"The military judge or a court-martial without a military judge may, for reasonable cause, grant a continuance to any party for such time, and as often, as may appear to be just. "

Do I have the wrong edition on my table?

One other thing that's been buggering me - who's senior?

Then she might be 'Mission Commander' for the duration of the flight but on station, Seniority is what counts when both parties involved are of the same rank (and no other orders exist). So we would need to know who was promoted first (simply put) to determine who's in charge.

I trust you'll forgive me for bundling some points up together.

• Chris and the MC are of the same rank
• On a seniority basis she has held her rank longer (but that's not terribly important)
• The MC is not under her command, unlike Annie which is why she can discipline our poor CE.
• All Chris can really do is lose her temper with the MC and warn him off - and perhaps report him (although as Ripe says quite rightly this would well drop Annie in as well more than likely)
• But, more generally, on the matter of who is in charge if we go on what the player knows so far there are two distinct missions. The Transit one which is purely Chadwick's (go to planet, drop off cargo and SLF and come back), and the MC's one. Chris doesn't have anything to do with the MC's mission per se - BUT- and it's a bigger but than the one dear Trish is carrying around - her bird is down. So whereas before the two missions were very distinct and not related, now they are interwoven. If the MC is interfering in her mission orders (ie preventing her repairs) then the two are in conflict. Now that's before we even get into officer initiative on a changing mission scene, Chadwick's personality (Piper Palace anyone?) or indeed any orders that the player may well not even know about yet...after all, he got some last minute...

There is a lot more I could tell/say about this. Buuuuuuuuuuut, it's more appropriate to not do so and let the story/path evolve else I will be spoiling things or influencing your game decisions.

The one thing I will add is that the Chris/Annie scene wasn't a "bad end" by any means. It merely opens up a whole new pathway. After all, what will Annie make of all this?

 

[TheDevian]

It was more of a design/stylistic choice on my part in that I thought Celsius would be more familiar to the player than Kelvin.

I'm in the US, so I have to stop and convert it either way.

 

[Nottravis]

Hi guys,
I've been dabbling in Daz for a few weeks now, and I think this thread is in serious need of Annie's fanart

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Nice! Have you figured out what's the other hairstyle Annie wears? That one is eluding me and would be my preferred choice.

Here a little something from a setup I use to test models.

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Nice stuff. Please fan-art away with my blessing I suspect some of you buggers will be better at rendering than I am!

Annie's other hair is a colour modified version of

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. I should warn you that it's not that flexible an asset but requires a lot less render time than her other her style being more simple in construction (because of my rig resources this was one of the ways to save render time, as well as being practical for when she's busy)

I guess the real moral of the story is, don't give up before the game is over, and don't sell yourself short. Be yourself. If she falls for you because you're acting in a way that isn't natural to you it won't last, and if she doesn't like you for who you are, then it'll never work out.

Speaking from the other side of the hill, I concur with this totally.

Maybe the dom women to the core have gone to bat for the other team as it were, because they got tired of all the guys trying to get to their 'true' submissiveness and they got fed up heh.

Um...oh is that the time? I must dash...

She IS an Officer, so that's kinda her job.


This can very well be a "shit test". Like "Are you brave enough to call me on my bullshit?"


I'd love to get an Oral Reprimand from her *lecherous wink*


It's just like the 1-10 Hotness scale. It is very useful or completely useless depending on the context. Does it accurately and objectively describe every possible form of inter-personal relationship? No. Is it good enough to model a specific Situation in a specific Context? Yes.

The Alpha-Beta concept is very useful considering that (most) women sort men into 2 distinct categories:

1. Males that make good providers and that get the "i am a good girl. You have to at least date me for X weeks (or even marry me) before we can have sex and even then I pretend to be somewhat vanilla so you don't think bad of me"-treatment and

2. Males whose confidence get their pussies super wet but who have too many options to be tied down like that and with whom the woman can explore her sexuality without risking to lose a potential husband or long-term boyfriend.

And in that context the Alpha-Beta concept is very useful. Because the reactions you get from women depending in which category she sorts you are very, VERY different. Like Night and Day different. Of course in the 2 groups there are like a bazillion shades and also males can be in one group in one relationship and in another group in another relationship.

(The Alpha female thing though, that's another matter and has nothing to do with the dynamic above, if it even exists)

We don't know yet for sure, but the fact that she had a relationship with a guy who then started to fuck around on her strongly suggests that 1. She is Bi-sexual, not lesbian (it's a continuous scale anyway, very few people are strictly one or the other) and 2. that the other guy was not some pussy-whipped beta male heellicker, but was in fact the dominant one in that relationship, which precludes the possibility of her being truly dominant at her core. Most likely she is some sort of alpha female, where she relinquishes power to her chosen male, shares that males other women and keeps the "pack" in check.

I am a major fan of this dynamic. If you can pull this off as a man, it's a thing of beauty. I had girls literally bring their female friends (and in one case her 'little' sister) around for me to fuck. It's amazing.

Of course, if Nottravis can pull it off, we could also get the option to chose one of the dynamics going forward. I can see some people wanting the MC to just be dominated by her and I respect that.

Mr jdoch that was a -most- interesting set of posts - and you touched upon something which no one else has done yet....(no I'm not saying which bit!)

My theory...

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Wait for it, wait for it...

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And at that point I think I'll draw the line having gone back to the start of April.

Thank you all for your thoughts and comments and the continued interest in my little game. Again, I apologise hugely for the worry caused.

 

[Nottravis]

Oh! One last thing!

I know that a few of you have a few problems with the Chris/Annie scene and whether the behaviours are apt but have you considered what sort of day Chris is having?

• gets woken up in the middle of the night to find out she's now got to fly down to Ophion
• no doubt is spending a bit of time blaming her husband for landing her with this duty
• finds out that she's taking Harris...oh great.
• spends next few hours rousting up a crew and getting Vanguard in flyable order again
• gets a stroke of luck on finding out that Harris is replaced
• meets the MC who may, or may not, be a dick
• has a major accident in space and everyone nearly dies
• pulls off a heartstopper of a landing
• finds out Ophion is staffed by a skeleton crew of missing pers and bickering idiots
• finds out no one knows what is wrong with her deathtrap of a ship
• goes for a drink with Kelly (at last something good!)
• finds the mc in bed with her very drunk engineer

And that's before we get into the psychology of whatever else is going on, past behaviours, stuff you don't know about yet etc...

Dunno about you, but I can be a bitch if I find I've no coffee in the morning let alone that lot

Laters!

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

finds out that she's taking Harris...oh great.

someone has to bait the LGM

may not

he may not

 

[TheDevian]

Nice stuff. Please fan-art away with my blessing I suspect some of you buggers will be better at rendering than I am!

The trick is to whip the hamsters REALLY hard.

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[freedom.call]

I hope to hell no one here does know me IRL!

I think most of us feel the same, not about not knowing you but not being known. That sentence played better in my head.

I'm glad you're still enjoying it. The end results scores on the doors are more a hint to the player of potential scenes they've missed rather than a victory point total as there are a lot of routes which may not be apparent. It's my crude way of flagging their existence.

So...good or bad. I suppose the ultimate answer is if you're happy with how your character is influencing the story, then it's good

Stories/progress/anticipation is more important to me than sex scenes. I'm not a 'game fapper' (but I do enjoy lewd scenes obviously).

 

[Sulring Durgul]

- goes for a drink with Kelly (at last something good!)
- finds the mc in bed with her very drunk engineer

This raises an important question: WHERE did Chris go for drinks with Kelly, because Annie and the MC where busy getting rascally drunk in the mess area. Given the limited area available, I find it strange that Chris and Kelly wouldn't have noticed Annie and the MC playing drinking games at one point or another during the evening...

Or perhaps... Kelly turned Chris down, which did not improve her mood, and explains why she barged in the way she did. That would also mean that Chris is lying about her progress with the frogette...

 

[Akamari]

This raises an important question: WHERE did Chris go for drinks with Kelly, because Annie and the MC where busy getting rascally drunk in the mess area. Given the limited area available, I find it strange that Chris and Kelly wouldn't have noticed Annie and the MC playing drinking games at one point or another during the evening...

The area with the formerly purple courtain perhaps?

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

This raises an important question: WHERE did Chris go for drinks with Kelly, because Annie and the MC where busy getting rascally drunk in the mess area. Given the limited area available, I find it strange that Chris and Kelly wouldn't have noticed Annie and the MC playing drinking games at one point or another during the evening...

Or perhaps... Kelly turned Chris down, which did not improve her mood, and explains why she barged in the way she did. That would also mean that Chris is lying about her progress with the frogette...

unless Chris's plan with Kelly is to use the MC...

 

[Akamari]

The area with the formerly purple courtain perhaps?

An interesting detail I haven't noticed before about the Ch.3 sneakypeeky render is that there is a window that offers view of what appears to be the mess hall.

So if Chris was there that night, it would explain how, in a certain scenario, did she know when and where to go. It wouldn't explain though why would she wait so long before interfering.

 

[Nottravis]

This raises an important question: WHERE did Chris go for drinks with Kelly, because Annie and the MC where busy getting rascally drunk in the mess area. Given the limited area available, I find it strange that Chris and Kelly wouldn't have noticed Annie and the MC playing drinking games at one point or another during the evening...

Or perhaps... Kelly turned Chris down, which did not improve her mood, and explains why she barged in the way she did. That would also mean that Chris is lying about her progress with the frogette...

The answer is frightfully dull I'm afraid. Kelly explains what happens at the start of Chapter Three...

And Chris? Lie? Perish the thought...

 

[thomasxlong]

Nottravis just been catching up on you catching up and I've gotta say, it is good to have you back, you funny fucker.

 

[Nottravis]

Nottravis just been catching up on you catching up and I've gotta say, it is good to have you back, you funny fucker.

*grins and curtsies*

It's bloody good to be back Thomas tbh.

 

[Nottravis]

An interesting detail I haven't noticed before about the Ch.3 sneakypeeky render is that there is a window that offers view of what appears to be the mess hall.

So if Chris was there that night, it would explain how, in a certain scenario, did she know when and where to go. It wouldn't explain though why would she wait so long before interfering.

Oh missed that point. Did you mean why/how she turns up when she does?

That was purely because she says she will at the start of Chapter Two. If I recall correctly, the player is reminded of it when deciding whether to go for drinks, see Sarah etc too.